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By Nausi 2019-10-09 13:38:50
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I like how you provide an image proving me exactly right in the very first paragraph. Trump talks specifically about Hunter and Joe Biden. Never mentions the firm.
Wrong.

If amazing to see how ignorant you’re willing to force yourself to be in order to avoid thinking this through.
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 13:48:50
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He doesn’t ask him to make up dirt on his opponent, he doesn’t even ask him to reopen the investigation. He simply asks if he can look into it and talk to the AG (to aid HIS ongoing investigation) The president himself doesn’t participate in the investigation, so claims that trumo did something improper are 100% baseless.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-09 14:04:07
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And Shiroi is still interfering in the 2020 election it seems.

You can't argue with True Believers, they are like flat earthers, willing to invent any reason to keep believing what they were commanded to believe.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-09 14:06:51
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Asura.Saevel said: »
And Shiroi is still interfering in the 2020 election it seems.

You can't argue with True Believers, they are like flat earthers, willing to invent any reason to keep believing what they were commanded to believe.

Welcome to PnR.
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 14:08:02
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 14:09:20
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Every time i paste a link, it comes in with a space, and *** it all up.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-10-09 14:58:46
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Russian, North Korean State Media Team Up to Fight ‘facts I don't like’
The Moscow times, NOT the Onion.

P. S. Nasui stop posting from your phone.
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 15:00:57
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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He doesn’t ask him to make up dirt on his opponent, he doesn’t even ask him to reopen the investigation. He simply asks if he can look into it and talk to the AG (to aid HIS ongoing investigation) The president himself doesn’t participate in the investigation, so claims that trumo did something improper are 100% baseless.

Trump asked him to look into Biden. That's it. It's wrote there, trying to claim otherwise is being obtuse. Trump isn't even trying to give him any relevant information to the supposedly "ongoing investigation", he simply ask him to look into Biden, as a favor on top of that.

Let's be real, you can try spinning it as much as you want, the memorandum is clear and I bet the actual transcript would be even worst.

Asura.Saevel said: »
And Shiroi is still interfering in the 2020 election it seems.

Looks like Saevel still doesn't understand how election interference works.

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You can't argue with True Believers, they are like flat earthers, willing to invent any reason to keep believing what they were commanded to believe.

Spoken like a true Trumpster. All hail Trump the Sage, wisest of the wises! The chosen one! Or as you personally like to call him, the "Stud" for cheating on his wife.
He doesn't say “look into Biden”.

He’s asks him to look into Biden’s blatant act of corruption, which biden is on tape bragging about. That’s actually his job.

Why should that action (which is illegal) not be looked at?
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 15:02:30
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Jesus christ, Shi. THATS THE TRANSCRIPT. There is no other record. What evidence is there that there is otherwise?

This is like brainlet x 10000
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-09 15:02:56
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
P. S. Nasui stop posting from your phone.

Yes, we should all use keyboards to prevent misspellings and other errors. On that note, who's Nasui?
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 15:04:49
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
P. S. Nasui stop posting from your phone.

Yes, we should all use keyboards to prevent misspellings and other errors. On that note, who's Nasui?
This, made me laugh.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-09 15:13:24
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On an unrelated note, Trump is signing executive orders today to end Obama-era shadow regulations. Beyond that, all federal regulations are to be put on a website where anyone can look them up and apparently even comment on them.

Transparency FTW.
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 15:14:59
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Not only is the whistleblower a Democrat who worked for a 2020 candidate,

One of the whistleblower’s attorneys worked for James Clapper.

The same man who spied on the Senate and pushed the debunked Russia hoax.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-09 15:15:14
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Oh, and in another win, an intelligence agent has been arrested for leaking classified information to journalists. One less swamp creature to deal with.
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 15:19:16
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By that rational, Biden could murder someone and Trump wouldn't be allowed to ask about it? Surely you can see how ridiculous that is?

Secondly, what part is redacted? There isn’t anything redacted on it.
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 15:20:33
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And theres a difference between looking into a crime and fishing for evidence of one.

Libs literally project their crimes onto others.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-09 15:25:16
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Nausi said: »
He doesn't say “look into Biden”.

He’s asks him to look into Biden’s blatant act of corruption, which biden is on tape bragging about. That’s actually his job.

"Look into Biden" or "Look into Biden’s blatant act of corruption."

The way Trump requested that contribution from a foreign national isn't relevant...Trump still requested it. Trump broke the law and must answer for it, just like anyone else. He isn't above the law.

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Why should that action (which is illegal) not be looked at?

For the reason that is explained in the law. The US cannot know the motivations behind a foreign national providing information, and we wouldn't have a way of verifying its accuracy. If Biden did something that warrants an investigation, then a US policing agency should be requested to handle that, not the Ukraine or China.

Trump merely wanted dirt, fabricated or otherwise, to help sway the 2020 election...and he got caught! Spin it any way you want, it doesn't change the facts.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-09 15:30:33
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...and in other news, Stormy Daniels confirmed the rumored pee tape and is planning to sell the rights to Vivid Video. A few screen shots have been released, but they I think they are too graphic to post here.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-10-09 15:31:24
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Trump Boasted That His Border Wall Was 'Virtually Impenetrable.' Then an 8-Year-Old Girl Climbed a Replica
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“You don’t tell a bona fide rock climber something’s impossible to climb,” ...

Weber took the President’s claim as a challenge. He says he constructed his own replica of the wall, relying on the wall’s official dimensions as well as recent images of the structure. This weekend, Weber is planning to invite climbers attending the “Rocktoberfest” rock climbing festival at the nearby Red River Gorge canyon system in Kentucky to climb the model. Guests will be challenged to compete to climb up and over the wall in the fastest time.

Several people have already managed to climb up the wall replica, including 8-year-old Lucy Hancock. Hancock didn’t use any ropes or other tools to climb the wall, but wore a belay, a safety device designed to catch a falling climber. An adult climber, Erik Kloeker, was up and over the wall in about 40 seconds....

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By Josiahafk 2019-10-09 15:31:30
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By Odin.Slore 2019-10-09 15:42:37
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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A newly unearthed document shows that Ukrainian officials had opened a new probe into the firm linked to Hunter Biden months before President Trump's phone call with that country's leader, Fox News contributor John Solomon reported late Tuesday

Thanks for proving me right, they are investigating the firm, not either of the Biden.

That's stupid man. That's like saying they weren't investigating Trump just his campaign.

You know damn well they looking at him too.
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By Nausi 2019-10-09 15:49:59
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
He doesn't say “look into Biden”.

He’s asks him to look into Biden’s blatant act of corruption, which biden is on tape bragging about. That’s actually his job.

"Look into Biden" or "Look into Biden’s blatant act of corruption."

The way Trump requested that contribution from a foreign national isn't relevant...Trump still requested it. Trump broke the law and must answer for it, just like anyone else. He isn't above the law.

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Why should that action (which is illegal) not be looked at?

For the reason that is explained in the law. The US cannot know the motivations behind a foreign national providing information, and we wouldn't have a way of verifying its accuracy. If Biden did something that warrants an investigation, then a US policing agency should be requested to handle that, not the Ukraine or China.

Trump merely wanted dirt, fabricated or otherwise, to help sway the 2020 election...and he got caught! Spin it any way you want, it doesn't change the facts.
No, you’re simple wrong and i can prove it by asking you to post which law he broke.

He didn’t break the law, he actually was enforcing provisions in “the Treaty with Ukraine on mutual legal assistance in criminal matters”, which stipulates cooperative methods in collaborative investigations between countries. Signed by Bill Clinton himself.

https://dcwhispers.com/doh-did-you-know-theres-a-treaty-between-the-usa-ukraine-regarding-cooperation-for-prosecuting-crimes/
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By Odin.Slore 2019-10-09 15:50:26
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That's stupid man. That's like saying they weren't investigating Trump just his campaign.

You know damn well they looking at him too.

Nice opinion you have there, too bad none of it is close to a fact. Try again later.

My god man, how can you see to type being so blind....
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-09 15:57:56
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Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
He doesn't say “look into Biden”.

He’s asks him to look into Biden’s blatant act of corruption, which biden is on tape bragging about. That’s actually his job.

"Look into Biden" or "Look into Biden’s blatant act of corruption."

The way Trump requested that contribution from a foreign national isn't relevant...Trump still requested it. Trump broke the law and must answer for it, just like anyone else. He isn't above the law.

Nausi said: »
Why should that action (which is illegal) not be looked at?

For the reason that is explained in the law. The US cannot know the motivations behind a foreign national providing information, and we wouldn't have a way of verifying its accuracy. If Biden did something that warrants an investigation, then a US policing agency should be requested to handle that, not the Ukraine or China.

Trump merely wanted dirt, fabricated or otherwise, to help sway the 2020 election...and he got caught! Spin it any way you want, it doesn't change the facts.
No, you’re simple wrong and i can prove it by asking you to post which law he broke.

Your wish is my command.

Trump asked a foreign national to contribute information on Biden in an attempt to sway the 2020 election.
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