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By fonewear 2019-10-03 10:36:01
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 10:36:52
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fonewear, quests await you on Shiva. I'm sure you cant wait.
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By fonewear 2019-10-03 10:39:56
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Forget Vic it's Chinatown !
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By fonewear 2019-10-03 10:44:37
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Guilty till proven innocent and justice for none.
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By fonewear 2019-10-03 10:47:09
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What about Biden's lie that he never spoke with his son about his dealings in Ukraine, only for a photo to surface proving the exact opposite?

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What about it? A golf picture has nothing to do with Trump's wrongdoing. It's just deflection, your hoping that the Bidens did something wrong.

It proves that he lied. Why would he lie if he has nothing to hide?

I'm trying really hard to figure it out here, but how does a picture show what they discussed that day?

For comparison, I could say Trump is a proven pedo because there are pictures of him with Jeffrey Epstein.

You could say a lot of things but because you are Canadian we will instantly dismiss them.
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By fonewear 2019-10-03 10:48:22
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Shir why don't you join America and join us for the Big Win...this peace craze is going to blow over !
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 11:24:46
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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What about Biden's lie that he never spoke with his son about his dealings in Ukraine, only for a photo to surface proving the exact opposite?

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What about it? A golf picture has nothing to do with Trump's wrongdoing. It's just deflection, your hoping that the Bidens did something wrong.

It proves that he lied. Why would he lie if he has nothing to hide?

I'm trying really hard to figure it out here, but how does a picture show what they discussed that day?

For comparison, I could say Trump is a proven pedo because there are pictures of him with Jeffrey Epstein.

Do you understand that golfing is what people do when they talk business? And why would Biden claim he never met the guy when theres a pic of them golfing together?
 
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 11:42:24
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Is it some tin foul hat conspiracy that biden talked business with his some and the guy on a golf outing?

Yet and clinton and lynch talked about their grandkids on the tarmac too.
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 11:45:11
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Latest outrage, that pointing out how Biden ripped off china and they should investigate is an open recruitment to for election interference.
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 11:47:03
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They’re literally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. This mischaracterization and smear should have hit my feed yesterday.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 11:53:09
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Latest outrage, that pointing out how Biden ripped off china and they should investigate is an open recruitment to for election interference.

Reminder: There is no evidence Biden "ripped off" China. It's a conspiracy theory, not even an allegation. Biden did not "walk away with millions" from China.

However, asking a foreign country to investigate a political opponent is still wrong.
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By fonewear 2019-10-03 11:54:53
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Trump was literally on fire.

Trump was literally killing Mexicans.

Trump was literally a gangsta !

Wow that word is fun.
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By fonewear 2019-10-03 11:57:26
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 12:16:41
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Is it some tin foul hat conspiracy that biden talked business with his some and the guy on a golf outing?

Yet and clinton and lynch talked about their grandkids on the tarmac too.

Point being, you don't know what they discussed.
And yet we do know what Trump said on the transcript AND that doesn't matter to any lefties, they still cling to the whistleblowers account because it tells them what they want to hear.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 12:22:53
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Lol, we have always been good with the transcript, the alt right changes their stance on the whistleblower everyday. But we are just fine with the transcript.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-03 12:29:10
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So according to Dem's they can deny Republicans the ability to participate in congressional testimonies because there is no impeachment proceedings.

I'm not joking...

Eliot L. Engel, D-N.Y., McCaul who is on the Foreign Affairs committee use's the following reasoning for denying Republicans the ability to ask questions or participate in the testimony of Kurt Volker. Apparently these limitations were at the direction of Schiff.

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Citing House Rules X and XI, McCaul said that until Congress members from both parties vote to create a special impeachment task force to carry out proceedings, “Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff lacks the jurisdiction to investigate the Department of State’s conduct of United States foreign policy toward Ukraine. That prerogative belongs to our Members.”

“Official impeachment inquiries are initiated by the adoption of a House resolution empowering or creating a committee or task force to undertake such activities,” McCaul continued. “In both the Nixon and Clinton cases, the Judiciary Committee debated and reported a resolution authorizing the Judiciary Committee to investigate whether there were sufficient grounds to impeach the President, which was then debated and voted on by the full House of Representatives. There have been no such debates or votes in this Congress.”

So yeah .... according to Dem's there is no impeachment investigation and according to the same Dem's, there is an impeachment investigation.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-03 12:36:47
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Is it some tin foul hat conspiracy that biden talked business with his some and the guy on a golf outing?

Yet and clinton and lynch talked about their grandkids on the tarmac too.

Point being, you don't know what they discussed.
And yet we do know what Trump said on the transcript AND that doesn't matter to any lefties, they still cling to the whistleblowers account because it tells them what they want to hear.

First of all, the transcript released is not the call word for word ... BUT I'm willing to believe it hasn't been doctored in any shady way. (Why not just release the audio of the call?)

You don't want to see it, but the way I see it, the transcript is a huge red flag, it's about as democratic as Russia's elections.

"Official" sounding reason

Because it's classified the Republican's aren't Hillary Clinton. They scrubbed the transcript for any references that could be bad to foreign enemies of the USA, since the first thing you leftists will do is hand it to Iran and ISIS. The items referenced by the witness weren't classified so those could be released, which they were. Foreign calls often have a wide range of material discussed.

My personal reason,

I think Trump's screwing with Democrats again, getting them to build up a crazy sounding demand for the originals, that he will resist until you guys are frothing at the mouth with expectation that the damning evidence is there. This is already apparent with the one of your comment. When the Democrats reach a screeching high pitch, they will expend a huge amount of political capital and the originals will be released with Trump making some crude comment but otherwise nothing of importance in them. It would be a huge blow to the credibility of the Dems and their leftist supporters and make them look even more fanatical that you already are.

Not like President Trump hasn't done this before...
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 12:41:21
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Is it some tin foul hat conspiracy that biden talked business with his some and the guy on a golf outing?

Yet and clinton and lynch talked about their grandkids on the tarmac too.

Point being, you don't know what they discussed.
And yet we do know what Trump said on the transcript AND that doesn't matter to any lefties, they still cling to the whistleblowers account because it tells them what they want to hear.

First of all, the transcript released is not the call word for word ... BUT I'm willing to believe it hasn't been doctored in any shady way. (Why not just release the audio of the call?)

You don't want to see it, but the way I see it, the transcript is a huge red flag, it's about as democratic as Russia's elections.

The transcript is damning, it always has been. Trump is pressuring a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent, and offering US resources to do it. It's wrong, period. If the foreign aid was involved, it goes from wrong to illegal. The inquiry is on solid ground. And it's spinning Trump and his supporters into the ground.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-03 12:48:50
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Ok for those actually listening, this is President Trumps 2020 strategy.

Make Democrats and their leftist allies look like unreasonable religions zealots pushing for government control over regular Americans.

It's been a simple strategy that he's been working on since after the election on 2016. Practically everything this guy has done has been to get the leftists to overreact and go nuclear. This is accomplished by exploiting their reality distortion field to create a resonance effect that amplifies every reaction.

Example, me, Chanti, Shiroi at a pub with other people.

Saevel: dude women can't be men :trollface
Chanti: hey your a racist homophobic sexist ***
Shiroi: yes Chanti he's horrible and almost a nazi
Chanti: ZOMG he's such a nazi, like worse then hitler
Shiroi: definitely, NAZI's AREN'T HUMAN AND HIS WORDS VIOLATING ME
Chanti: YOU RAPIST SCUM, YOU NEED TO DIE

Saevel: (speaking to room), hey guys, check out these crazy people, who wants to be with them?

See this is what happens when someone lives in an echo chamber, they each feel like they need to escalate the beliefs of another. Inserting statements that they don't like have them making each other angrier until you get a crazy mob. This is how mobs are created and when was the last time a human looked at a mob and said "hey those guys are totally sane", even if the mob has a legitimate reason in the first place.

President Trump has successfully turned the Democrats into a mob, Speaker Peloski knows this and was why she was trying to cool the Democrat party, AOC's gang on the other hand did the exact opposite until the groups feeling started going mob, and you never want to be the target of a mob.
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 12:51:24
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2020 strat is working flawlessly.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 13:37:33
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 14:00:53
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Ok for those actually listening, this is President Trumps 2020 strategy.

Make Democrats and their leftist allies look like unreasonable religions zealots pushing for government control over regular Americans.

It's been a simple strategy that he's been working on since after the election on 2016. Practically everything this guy has done has been to get the leftists to overreact and go nuclear. This is accomplished by exploiting their reality distortion field to create a resonance effect that amplifies every reaction.

Example, me, Chanti, Shiroi at a pub with other people.

Saevel: dude women can't be men :trollface
Chanti: hey your a racist homophobic sexist ***
Shiroi: yes Chanti he's horrible and almost a nazi
Chanti: ZOMG he's such a nazi, like worse then hitler
Shiroi: definitely, NAZI's AREN'T HUMAN AND HIS WORDS VIOLATING ME
Chanti: YOU RAPIST SCUM, YOU NEED TO DIE

Saevel: (speaking to room), hey guys, check out these crazy people, who wants to be with them?

See this is what happens when someone lives in an echo chamber, they each feel like they need to escalate the beliefs of another. Inserting statements that they don't like have them making each other angrier until you get a crazy mob. This is how mobs are created and when was the last time a human looked at a mob and said "hey those guys are totally sane", even if the mob has a legitimate reason in the first place.

President Trump has successfully turned the Democrats into a mob, Speaker Peloski knows this and was why she was trying to cool the Democrat party, AOC's gang on the other hand did the exact opposite until the groups feeling started going mob, and you never want to be the target of a mob.
Accelerationism is the appropriate term.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-03 14:04:49
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In this sketch, Peele is to pop culture as Vic is to politics.

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-03 14:16:24
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Um, that already happened. Ever heard of the Steele Dossier?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-03 14:26:11
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Um, that already happened. Ever heard of the Steele Dossier?

Fusion GPS is based in Washington.

Where is Steele based? Is it okay to pay foreigner operatives to dig up dirt on your opponents as long as you go through a third party?
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