A Summoner's Gear Guide

The thing is old gear had acc/racc and the new items just say acc but include racc

(or, are supposed to)

And it's not about whether it's needed or not, they just do it to avoid someone saying why not.

The epitah should increase racc as well, I don't have one to screenshot. Racc is an unwritten stat on pet gear. (changed sometime semi recently)

Posted Picture above but image posting is...busted?

Anyway it does not show any Racc on the piece at all

For Ambu Capes is there an important choice between pet: haste, pet: regen(s), and the various kinds of pet: p/m/dt?

/checkparam pet

Racc/Ratt are supposed to be an invisible stat on any pet gear made after... 2020 or so

And now I'll have to find the update where they made the change. Since I can see the forgot and made pet Emp+3 have all 3 listed. Maybe they never actually got around to it. It's so hard to keep track.

Pet racc shows 0 for all avatars when I /checkparam <pet>

Zero with sancus on too?

I didn't know WingsofRedemption liked SMN also? Great!

That's news to me. I was under the impression that the JP gifts were tied to the favor reduction because until I was mastered, I was unable to get below 25 seconds even waiting for favor to fully charge. I'll have to test this later unequipped to see if my recast starts at 50 seconds.

the gifts are straight bp timer reductions with a tier of favor at the end. no favor up, no gear and pacts start at 50s recast.

if you're not getting below 25s your skill is too low or your favor potency hasn't ticked up enough.

yup, I didn't realize this. When I built my smn, it wasn't mastered so I didn't have the JP gifts, and my delay timer didn't go down because it was already likely as low as it could go with gear at the time.

For reference though, the last time I checked my skill, was for max skill where I believe it was almost at 700, and when I tested yesterday I had the emp head +2, upgraded to +3 last night. I'll confirm my idle gear smn skill later to hash out numbers, but my wards were still only going down to 25 seconds when used on cooldown, so I'm going to assume I need to play with my gearsets to make that function properly. Though, 25 seconds seems like the right number for the wards when you're using them on cooldown without favor + gear, which I'm fairly certain isn't equipping. so with that, it should drop to 23 seconds

so to follow up- my max smn skill currently is 720, i reworked my set so i still have -26 bp delay between them, and 711 skill, and my pacts are on 20 second cooldowns

not sure how to add the gear grid but
main={ name="Espiritus", augments={'Summoning magic skill +15','Pet: Mag. Acc.+30','Pet: Damage taken -4%',}},
sub="Vox Grip",
ammo="Sancus Sachet +1",
head="Beckoner's Horn +3",
body="Baayami Robe",
hands={ name="Glyphic Bracers +3", augments={'Inc. Sp. "Blood Pact" magic burst dmg.',}},
legs="Baayami Slops",
feet="Baayami Sabots",
neck="Incanter's Torque",
waist="Kobo Obi",
left_ear="Lodurr Earring",
right_ear="Andoaa Earring",
left_ring="Stikini Ring +1",
right_ring="Evoker's Ring",
back={ name="Conveyance Cape", augments={'Summoning magic skill +4','Pet: Enmity+13','Blood Pact Dmg.+3','Blood Pact ab. del. II -2',}},

If you make an itemset on ffxiah, you can put text like this: itemset 389950 /itemset with [] around itemset and /itemset

Your BP reduction is over cap, though it shouldn't really matter with the current avatar's favor tiers, perhaps could put DT, meva, or HP in the extra slots or something. I personally just max out smn magic skill in case new tiers are added and I forget to go back and update it.

-20 BP recast (I and II), -10 from JP gifts, -10 from avatar's favor (requires 670 skill and +6 in avatar's favor)

Other than head, any other notable EMP+3 pieces for smn?

Feet will replace AF+3 in acc sets, and have ES on them. Aside from that nothing really, Legs get TP bonus, but no other noticeable stats, it's easy to cap perp- so hands are meh, and body isn't good enough to replace AF+3 or Apogee. With recent updates to pet crit pdif Relic +3 body will probably need some new testing, but that's about it. Empy upgrades are mostly just nice DT/Meva pieces for SMN.

Without aftermath up, i've found smn's best dmg potential from multi hit blood pacts is:

head: Capped helios with pet DA 8%
body: Relic +3
hands: Merlinic with top end augs
legs: Apogee (path D)
feet: Capped helios with pet DA 8%

my set has pet DA +39%, and those dmg spikes are large.

We get so much blood pact dmg gear, there's a point of diminishing returns, so if you have a lot, dropping the small amount on the head and feet for helios is well worth it for 16% pet DA.

As was said already, the empy +3 pieces are only really any use for acc, or 1 hit blood pact sets.

Did you math it out, averaging numbers, or are you eyeballing?

Because I can clearly see how you could get very interesting high spikes with that gear and AM3 down, but spikes =/= average.
My point is that tt's worthless to get occasional higher spikes if the average damage is lower compared to other options.

Which is why I'm asking if you mathed it out or not.

Nope, didn't math it out, reason I wrote "dmg potential"

But 39% pet DA will mean a little less than a 1/2 pet DA rate, which almost guarantees at least 1 proc per multi hit ws, I gotta imagine losing 6% blood pact dmg for that isn't even close, you're almost always gonna be getting extra dmg from pet DA's.

I wouldn't risk looking like a fool posting eyeballed numbers if I thought it was close between the 2.

I'm not sacrificing BPD anywhere else really, unless you count the relic body +3, but i'd be using that piece regardless of the x2 helios pieces.

Hope that helps answer your question.

(For context, all it does is drop me from 154 BPD to 148, and pushing pet DA from 23% to 39%, so just less than a 1/4 proc rate up to a little less than a 1/2 proc rate).

You can also add Cath Palug ring into the mix, but same as BPD, the higher your pet DA, diminishing returns.

So sacrificing a Varar ring +1's BPD +4 for pet DA +5 is a much closer thing, that'd need mathed out if you're sitting on 39% pet DA already.

The loss of 6% will vary for peoples setups, some may lose 8% if they were using apogee feet, (+4 BPD bonus along with apogee legs).

If you were using empy +3 feet prior, will still only be a 6% loss.

The body is a really good DT piece for when the SMN needs to stand in dangerous places. I use Apogee Crown +1 path D for reducing perp cost in my Pet:DT set but I didn't have a good perp down piece for my own DT set until Empy+3. I'm pretty happy with it. I just wish it had some refresh.

I also agree that the feet look like a nice acc piece, unfortunately it doesn't seem like SMN needs that for... well... anything.

For what it's worth, the math agrees. My calculator makes comparisons on BPD vs Pet:DA pretty easy, and that's really what SMN comparisons come down to right now because the pet:acc/atk values offered by most good items tends to be roughly equivalent. The main exception is relic body, if you need the accuracy from AF body then the relic body goes out the window.

God help us if that ever changes and we have to decide whether X BPD beats Y pet:attack or something. Someone might have to finally develop a SMN spreadsheet.

Using this set as an example, which is ideal in my experience (except the ear could obviously be +2):

ItemSet 94450

This set has 144 BPD and 44 DA. That's a 2.44 multiplier for the BPD, and a 1.2933 multiplier for the average return on DA, for a total average multiplier of 3.1557.

If you change the feet from Helios to Apogee+1 path B, you gain 3 BPD on the feet as well as 4 more for activating the set bonus with legs, but you lose 7 DA. This brings the multiplier from BPD to 2.51, but lowers the average multiplier from DA to 1.24, giving a total average multiplier of 3.1124. That's a loss of around 1.4% damage in the long run.

Swapping relic body to AF body is a slightly larger loss. You go to a 2.6 BPD multi and 1.193 DA multi, for a total of 3.1027, a loss of 1.7% damage. Again, that assumes your accuracy is capped. (Edit: And also doesn't factor in the crit rate on relic body.)

Good to know the cath palug ring wins out, that is my exact non aftermath set, except had been sticking with double varar +1's cos I wasn't sure on the math for the cath palug ring.

why is there no magical bp sets other than merits?

Cause the only difference between the sets would be 1 piece, which is the legs. You'd swap them to something with more BP dmg such as Apogee slack +1 or something else. The dmg difference wouldn't be that significant. And considering most other magical BPs aren't that great, it's not as common to build a seperate set with just the legs swapped for them.

There are- the most notable of which is using Grioavolr instead of Nirvana or Gridarvor
getting a solid augment is key though.

you'll also favor the cath palag crown over apogee or helios
enticer pants over apogee/helios
regal belt over incantor sash
you'll make a different ambu cape

The bottom line is you can strip out the double attack for any magical pact so long as you keep the BP damage and any mab. So, ideally, you'll want 2 sets of apogee/helios to max out both physical and magical, as well as 2 pairs of merlinic hands, each augmented toward the BP of choice (bp 10 + str + atk/acc, or bp 10 + int + mab/macc)

the rest of the accessories are pretty much just BP damamge and acc/macc, so no reason to really change them.

iirc non merit magical BP is not affected by TP so apogee would be better than enticer

They're affected by TP, but not as much as merit BPs in most cases.

My Lua splits them out into two categories and swaps gear accordingly for that reason. The only difference though, as others said, are the pants. Enticers versus Apogee+1 path A.

From what I recall last time testing was done, Merit BPs, Impact, Conflag Strike, Lv ? Holy, and Lunar Bay all benefit more from Enticers while the rest (such as Thunderspark and Night Terror) were better with Apogee.

Edit: Note that the difference in damage is pretty miniscule in all cases but if you really want to optimize then this is how.

Also this changes if your avatar has enough TP (keep in mind merit BPs get extra TP bonus if you have more than 1 merit). From what I recall, somewhere around 1500 TP is the crossover point where Apogee takes over for all magic BPs, and thus if you're 5/5 merit then you're better off just always using Apogee for that BP.

This is what that set looks like:
ItemSet 124548

If you don't have a good Grioavolr, then Espiritus is a solid alternative or even Keraunos.

thank you for the explanations. really apprecieated

is there a way to include this code in the SMN lua so that when i have an avatar out but not engaged it will equip my movement speed gear?

You want to equip carmine cuisses +1 on SMN?