A Summoner's Gear Guide

Talking about for summoning magic or for cures etc?

For summoning magic your set is: Baayami Robe.

For other spells I don't have a SIRD set personally, maybe someone else can share if they built one.

you need one more percent of interrupt beyond baayami. (not that i bother either)

There is an easy 10% SIRD in merits.

Asked in game...seeking to verify here: Avatar Level+ gear stacks? If so, I have gear reflecting Avatar Level 119, and then gear totaling Avatar Level +5 (2 on Nirvana, and 1 each on 3 other pieces). Thus, if worn together, my Avatar should be level 124?

Correct

I'm finding that the sharp cut in HP in sets using multiple Apogee (read: triggering Healbot/Cureplease) is more of an inconvenience to my parties than missing the extra damage from using the correct set. Are there any recommendations for an alt set that only uses at most 1 Apogee piece for Flaming Crush? Is it Convoker+3 body+feet? Merlinic? Some combo? lol halp

Set up your bot better.

I'll give them that suggestion but we're dealing with swings from 1760 max HP to 1000 HP from gear changes. Whether they're botting or human it's probably a pain in the ***.

Just idle in Apogee gear so your HP isn't dropping anymore.

On cure please just uncheck the smn. Shouldn't ever need a heal in the first place.

can also throw some -hp gear into idle and other sets.

Since when is 5/5ing Apogee for flaming crush even a thing anymore? Many of the slots have a better piece...

Since people started making smn just to take part in afac burns, since apogee requires so little time investment in smn I'm assuming most people without the better JSE pieces typically uses smn for stuff like ambu with lower gear necessary to make afac work.

Change body to af+3 or empy+2 and only leave Apogee feet and legs. Change one ring to R15 Gelatinous (4BP less won't break you at this point). Add +HP on your back. This should lower HP drop enough I think.

Quick question, Beckoner's spats +2 was that a replacement for enticer's pants? I remember people talking about the +650 TP/accuracy but enticer's still has 12BPD so I assume they would still beat the spats +2/+3. I just want to confirm my gut.

max enticer's is still best i think

Just got Beckoner's Horn +3, can confirm 20secs recast now possible for people that DON'T have BiS EVERY summoning magic skill piece.

My set for 20sec BP recast:

Epitaph r20
Beckoner's Horn+3
Baayami+1 body+hands+legs+feet
Incanter's Torque (Caller's Pendant is also fine)
Cath Palug earring
Lodurr earring
Stikini ring+1
Evoker's Ring
Conveyance cape (+5 summoning skill aug)
Kobo Obi

So with Horn+3 you can reach 20secs recast even with the 576 SMN skill tier?
Can you confirm this Cloudius?

Unless I'm missing something you're saying that you can reach the 20 seconds recast (cap) in two ways
1) Horn+2 and 670+ skill
2) Horn+3 and 576+ skill

Correct?

I thought the intention of what he was saying was without full hq Su3 people can get the 20s recast because of the +3 horn. He listed his set for 20s recast and it's BiS, without weapon/grip. Therefore with weapon and grip for smn skill, people without full Su3 hq can reach the 20s recast favor tier.

Yeah I had a brain fart, mixed up Avatar's Favor effect potency tier, and Avatar's Favor -BP recast potency tier.

Recently i was trying to figure out usefulness of all the empy +3, so it helps me prioritize them and this is what I came up for SMN

ItemSet 387660

This TP set support MAx/KC or Niravana AM3. It's purpose is to support party with Avatar's favor and buff, while also being able to do some damage (Black Halo, Garland of Bliss, Cataclysm, Earth Crusher, etc.) or support WSs (Shell Crusher, Myrkr).
It has:
- Up to 40%DT and 50%PDT (depends on quality and roll on Beckoner's earring) and very high meva even with Gazu pulling it down.
- Massive accuracy to support KC offhand (can probably do some changes for Nirvana since it doesnt require that much acc most of the time. Probably just switch Gazu to any other hands, depending on needs)
- capped -avatar perp. cost
- highest(?) tier of Avatar's favor
- 6-7 Refresh

Overall this set doesn't have much store TP, but it's not full melee TP set. That being said TP gain with KC offhand or Nirvana AM3 will still be huge with Samurai Roll.
I probably wont make it that fast, because I play 17 other jobs and SMN empy set probably isnt the highest priority, so just giving this idea to others. Have fun :)

EDIT: At ML40, you only need Horn to be +3 to reach highest avatar's favor if my calculation is right, so you can use this set with +2 legs, body and feet too and just mainly lose accuracy and meva.

Highest Avatar's Favor Tier.

Carbuncle's Favor

753skill 27regen (WITH Baayami Hat+1, NO Beckoner's Horn+3)
745skill 32regen (WITH Beckoner's Horn+3)
735skill 32regen
730skill 31regen
729skill 31regen
720skill 31regen
715skill 31regen
703skill 31regen
692skill 31regen
682skill 31regen
670skill 31regen
659skill 30regen

if you're going that route you'd probably be better off doing a full tp set and letting the increased WS usage keep your mp up over nerfing yourself for favor/bp timer.

I can imagine pure TP set being significantly enough better for AM3 Nirvana (but also AM3 Nirvana is doing much less WS damage unless it's some light/magic weak mob with malaise up), but for offhand KC? You need accuracy and most of this seems to be bis for that anyway.

So yeah for Nirvana you could probably for example use R25 Bunzi head, but I don't see any significant alternatives for Max/KC setup.

I dont know bout a tp set but the empy set is good for buffs if blood boon procs it almost doubles the duration of bp' wards.

It's not reliable enough, but I guess you could now use at least legs, body and head, because difference between them and Baayami+1 is much smaller now (27 summoning magic, so 27 sec idk)

Is wotasu planning to update the guide? or anyone else? I found it really helpful when getting started on SMN, would be lovely to see the new updated sets for people like me that only seldomly play smn or new summoners.

Nothing has really changed for SMN honestly. Anywhere you see Beckoner's +1 swap for beckoner's +3 and swap Gelos Earring for SMN JSE Earring, that's about it. Can also swap Beckoner's +3 feet in instead of Convokers +3 for acc situations as it'll be a slight increase in dmg. Rest of the gear on the main page is the same.

If my math is right, the Beckoner's set +3 has more Acc/M.Acc (and R.Acc for when the matters?) than the Convoker's set +3, even accounting for the artifact set bonus?

Granted you will sub some pieces out that lack BP+ for physical acc set, but for M.Acc related stuff seems like 4/5 Beckoner's with Lamassu Mitts+1 R15 is the way to go now? Beckoner head/body/legs also have Summoning Magic Skill+ as well, which would grant further M.Acc? Please feel to school me, I am still pretty fresh to the SMN mantle on my alt character. :)