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By Asura.Saevel 2018-07-26 21:31:44
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
what's going south exactly?

The Apocalypse is happening right now, food has run out, the economy has crashed, people are committing suicide and devils are running around in the streets... inside the liberal reality distortion bubble.
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By Viciouss 2018-07-26 21:44:58
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Also dumb.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-27 00:15:43
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What else is new? Things are going south fast, Trump is clearly to blame.

Dow 30
25,527.07
+112.97(+0.44%)

it's up 4k over the last 52 weeks

what's going south exactly?

Dumb and misleading. How much is it up in the last 25 weeks? Why such a dramatic slowdown?

I just looked at a trend of the last decade. Trump's "dramatic slowdown" barely even registers by comparison because it went from a high point back down to being on trend, which one would actually expect to happen.

Another chart I've seen shows a side-by-side comparison of performance by president, and so far Trump's right up there with the best performers (except for FDR, who had a killer first term and then petered out over time).
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By fonewear 2018-07-27 08:58:13
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Viciouss said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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What else is new? Things are going south fast, Trump is clearly to blame.

Dow 30
25,527.07
+112.97(+0.44%)

it's up 4k over the last 52 weeks

what's going south exactly?

Dumb and misleading. How much is it up in the last 25 weeks? Why such a dramatic slowdown?

Not only is Vic a political expert he is a stock market expert. As him what P/E and IPO angel investor etc are. The man is a genius.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-07-27 09:06:27
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
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What else is new? Things are going south fast, Trump is clearly to blame.

Dow 30
25,527.07
+112.97(+0.44%)

it's up 4k over the last 52 weeks

what's going south exactly?

Dumb and misleading. How much is it up in the last 25 weeks? Why such a dramatic slowdown?

I just looked at a trend of the last decade. Trump's "dramatic slowdown" barely even registers by comparison because it went from a high point back down to being on trend, which one would actually expect to happen.

Another chart I've seen shows a side-by-side comparison of performance by president, and so far Trump's right up there with the best performers (except for FDR, who had a killer first term and then petered out over time).

Gotta love people confusing short term variations with long term trends.
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By Viciouss 2018-07-27 09:08:09
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Spin mode on early it seems.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-27 09:14:28
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Viciouss said: »
Spin mode on early it seems.

Just for clarification, someone other than you being right isn't automatically "spin". If you can't handle the data, that's your problem.
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By Viciouss 2018-07-27 09:19:22
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If you would rather talk about Obamas last decade of success instead of Trumps 2018 self inflicted slowdown then go right ahead.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-27 09:27:58
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Viciouss said: »
If you would rather talk about Obamas last decade of success instead of Trumps 2018 self inflicted slowdown then go right ahead.

Oh, when you were talking about spin, you were referring to yourself. You need to make that more clear next time. Please, carry on.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-07-27 09:30:56
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Dow 30
25,527.07
+112.97(+0.44%)

it's up 4k over the last 52 weeks

what's going south exactly?
The dow has what to do with reality exactly?
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By Siren.Mosin 2018-07-27 09:32:45
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Viciouss said: »
Obamas last decade of success

I almost liked the guy. He was just far too divisive, and I think he was responsible for trump's ascension.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-07-27 09:33:18
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Interesting headlines this morning.

Michael Avenatti Says He’ll Represent Three More Women Allegedly Paid Off by Trump
The daily beast


Cohen says Trump approved Trump Tower meeting with Russians

The president’s longtime attorney says he was there when Trump learned of and OK’d the gathering.

Politico
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-27 09:36:03
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The dow has what to do with reality exactly?

It's one of many indicators of economic health? I mean, you can draw whatever conclusions you want from fantasy world metrics that prove Obama was the bess econnomy prezdent evar, but some of us like actual data.
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Wake me up when we get past "allegedly". We've been on that road for a long time and the view is rather boring.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-07-27 09:44:46
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Viciouss said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Candlejack said: »
What else is new? Things are going south fast, Trump is clearly to blame.

Dow 30
25,527.07
+112.97(+0.44%)

it's up 4k over the last 52 weeks

what's going south exactly?

Dumb and misleading. How much is it up in the last 25 weeks? Why such a dramatic slowdown?

You're dumb and misleading!!! /playground shove
and so is your mom! she promised me there would be candy!

the only thing dramatic is your hyper defensive overreaction
slowing down =/= going south chicken little

all the grownups measure these things in years not whatever number of weeks you pull out of your *** to attempt to prove your lame half baked point.... slowing down...

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By fonewear 2018-07-27 09:47:59
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Viciouss said: »
If you would rather talk about Obamas last decade of success instead of Trumps 2018 self inflicted slowdown then go right ahead.

You don't get to set the agenda...only we chosen ones can do that !
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By Viciouss 2018-07-27 09:48:12
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Soo no answer nik?
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-07-27 09:54:12
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Viciouss said: »
So no answer nik?

answer to what?

you haven't provided anything to substantiate any claim you have made.

so the answer is go take a dump you're so full of ***it's oozing out of your fingers onto your keyboard
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By Viciouss 2018-07-27 09:57:56
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I had asked what had caused the market to slow down so much this year, Rav of course tried to change the topic to something else entirely, but its cool.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-27 10:13:23
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Viciouss said: »
I had asked what had caused the market to slow down so much this year, Rav of course tried to change the topic to something else entirely, but its cool.

How about that massive GDP growth under Trump that never broke 3% under Obama?
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By fonewear 2018-07-27 10:18:17
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I allegedly don't care read my blog to find out how much I don't care !
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The daily beast is basically Yahoo comments but worse.
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By fonewear 2018-07-27 10:20:24
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The Beast's editorial approach: "We seek out scoops, scandals, and stories about secret worlds; we love confronting bullies, bigots, and hypocrites."[1][2] In 2018 Avlon described the Beast's "Strike Zone" as “politics, pop culture and power

Politics and pop culture what a winning combo it's like if TMZ covered politics.
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By Viciouss 2018-07-27 10:24:35
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I had asked what had caused the market to slow down so much this year, Rav of course tried to change the topic to something else entirely, but its cool.

How about that massive GDP growth under Trump that never broke 3% under Obama?

So now you are trying to compare quarterly growth with annual? Why don't you examine that data and get back to us.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-07-27 10:27:05
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Viciouss said: »
I had asked what had caused the market to slow down so much this year.

but you haven't provided any data to substantiate your claim.

I put up actual numbers, which you claimed were "dumb and misleading" but you have to show your work if you want to be taken seriously. The dow is up 1 day, 5 days, for the month, year to date, one year, five years, ten years and max...

so "south"? I disagree the facts disagree, the trends disagree and everyone with firing synapses disagrees.

when the only person that agrees with you is candlejack it's probably time to rethink your entire philosophy.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-27 10:28:32
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Viciouss said: »
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I had asked what had caused the market to slow down so much this year, Rav of course tried to change the topic to something else entirely, but its cool.

How about that massive GDP growth under Trump that never broke 3% under Obama?

So now you are trying to compare quarterly growth with annual? Why don't you examine that data and get back to us.

By all means, Vic. Cite something for us to peruse.
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By Viciouss 2018-07-27 10:46:29
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Well it won't be hard, you tried to claim Obama never had a quarter over 3%, and that's easily debunked.

Graph

Obama had a few quarters over 3%, topping out at 4.9, hell even the headlines today tried to help you, highest growth since 2014. Now if you want to talk about annual, Trump is being extremely optimistic that we will be over 3% for the year, even hitting 4% (fantasy), but most economists don't agree with him. Forecasts have us remaining under 3 for the next few years.
 
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