Random Politics & Religion #34

Its just funny because the one constant topic that divides Trump and the GOP is his pathetically soft stance on everything Russia, but here we have Rav trying to defend Trump's repeated false claims that no President has been tougher on Russia than he has, yet he has done little to nothing that could be considered remotely tough.

As I said, nothing, which is all I expected from you. None of those yielded any actual results, and its a huge stretch to say he "condemned" Germany's gas pipeline, cried about it is more appropriate.

As I said, nothing, which is all I expected from you. None of those yielded any actual results, and its a huge stretch to say he "condemned" Germany's gas pipeline, cried about it is more appropriate.

As expected, Trump went back to his overused lie of "no one has been tougher on Russia than me, and Putin knows it and isn't happy about it." That's your cue to defend him Rav.

But those are the facts.

You "researched" those, really? What did you forget them or something? None of those small things are hard to remember, the Syria strikes that accomplished nothing and deterred no one, so effective that Assad used chemical weapons to win a battle a second time, not being afraid of Trump, and winning that bet. No amount of your "research" can change that fact.

Selling weapons to Ukraine..who promptly did nothing with them. How is that Ukrainian conflict going?

Repeating Obama's sanctions, which I told you not to try that card.


Your "research" didn't lead to a very informed response, mainly because Trump has and continues to be incredibly weak on Russia. This isn't hard at all.

The discussion is in comparison to earlier presidents. Stop ignoring the fact that Barack "Hot Mic" Obama spent a vast majority of his presidency trying to pander to Putin. If it weren't for Crimea, you wouldn't be having this discussion with me because Trump could have called Putin a doo doo head and it would have been tougher on Putin than Obama's antics.

Cruise missile attacks on Syria, the approval of lethal arms sales on Ukraine, various new sanctions under the Magnitsky Act*, condemning Germany for the gas pipeline**, various defense-related measures against potential Russian attacks***.... Yadda yadda yadda.

Obama put a missile defense system in 3 different countries neighboring Russia. As you just listed, Trump has done nothing even remotely as tough as that.

He called for overhauling our nuclear arsenal with low-yield atomic weapons. That's a much bigger deterrent than some missile defense systems.

*Ordered by the senate, unenforced by our fearful leader.

**That's tough on Germany not Russia.

***Name just one. Also how it is "tough on Russia."

Its also not going to happen? We have a Obama-era signed nuclear drawdown TREATY with Russia, and the actual missile defense system IN PLACE. Trump floated a fantasy.

Are you talking about the Maven project from around 2010? Or the B-62? Those have been active for a while. Or maybe the submarine program? That hasn't made it through Congress yet.

There's this thing called "Google", you should give it a try. That is unless your selective reality forbids you from looking up anything that is guaranteed to prove you're wrong.

I don't need google to tell me about the Maven project or the B-62s. You don't have a monopoly on researching things, you are just now learning things that have been active or been in development for years.

The nation's top voting machine maker has admitted in a letter to a federal lawmaker that the company installed remote-access software on election-management systems it sold over a period of six years, raising questions about the security of those systems and the integrity of elections that were conducted with them.

In a letter sent to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) in April and obtained recently by Motherboard, Election Systems and Software acknowledged that it had "provided pcAnywhere remote connection software … to a small number of customers between 2000 and 2006," which was installed on the election-management system ES&S sold them.

The statement contradicts what the company told me and fact checkers for a story I wrote for the New York Times in February. At that time, a spokesperson said ES&S had never installed pcAnywhere on any election system it sold. "None of the employees, … including long-tenured employees, has any knowledge that our voting systems have ever been sold with remote-access software," the spokesperson said....