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By Nausi 2018-09-13 10:41:56
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John Kerry is now caught conspiring with the Iranians, sabotaging the president’s middle east talks.

Literal definition of breaking the Logan act.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-09-13 10:48:42
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Obama sucked *** for the middle class, nearly everything he did just *** over the middle class, especially professionals. Every tax made during Obama was aimed at the middle class, which the liberals misrepresented as being "wealthy". People with real wealth don't pay taxes because on paper they look poor as ***, poor people don't pay taxes, that leaves the middle class to bear the load from all the social programs designed to buy votes.
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By Odin.Slore 2018-09-13 11:52:07
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I just wish President Trump would fix this pos insurance scheme. Fiance lost her insurance because her insurer pulled out of exchange. That leaves 2 possible choices for my area.

1.) $445 a month for one person with a $4,000 deductible.

or

2.) $620 a month with a $2,000 deductible for one person.

This some ***, open up all the areas and let every insurance company participate like he wants to. WTF do we have 2 plans to choose from one is fedilis care and other is BCBS Silver plan. No other choices on exchange just different versions of these 2 abominations.

WTF though this was a good idea?
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By Nausi 2018-09-13 11:52:55
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Anyone know where the 3000 people number comes from?

Researchers at georgetown basically took a number of deaths they “expected” PR to have if a hurricane hadn’t hit and compared that to a statistical number provided.

No one visited a morgue, no one wrote down any names of the dead, no one did anything except create a model that prooved a result they wanted to see (just like global warming).

Once again Trump is entirely right in what he says.
 
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-09-13 12:39:36
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Nausi said: »
Conservatives are the new jews and the left is the new Hitler. Liberals are the new brown shirts.
Wow. New low today, congrats. Keep it up!
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By Nausi 2018-09-13 12:47:41
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Nausi said: »
Conservatives are the new jews and the left is the new Hitler. Liberals are the new brown shirts.
Wow. New low today, congrats. Keep it up!
There was an attempted stabbing of a gop congressional candidate
There was a call to shoot up a maga event
There was a rape threat made to a senators staff os she didnt vote against confirming Kavanaugh
There was a guy that shot up a congressional baseball team

I know im missing a few but political violence in the pursuit of enacting an agenda is exactly what he brownshirts did. If you think that’s extreme then that likely means you don’t agree with the violence (congrats), not that the violence isn’t analogous to the brownshirts.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2018-09-13 12:58:19
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Nausi said: »
Once again Trump is entirely right in what he says.

I gotta admit- he really did hit the nail on the head when he said hurricane florence is tremendously big and tremendously wet.
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By Nausi 2018-09-13 13:08:45
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http://fortune.com/2018/08/28/hurricane-maria-death-toll/

That study is an “estimate” no one went to any morgue, and no one examined a body. They plug in what they think happened into their calculations and conclude there had to be 3000 deaths.

Now 64 people were officially seen by a medical examiner, so the “study” asserts that the rest of the people had to have died from he hurricane even though there is no medical data available to confirm.
 
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By Nausi 2018-09-13 13:14:04
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There’s a #metoo hail mary pass on Kavanaugh!

A unknown person from 30 years ago (when he was in high school) supposedly has some info that kavanaugh did something inappropriate.

Welp I guess that seals the deal Kavanaugh’s gotta go. This is it! 5 alarm “Trump’s done” alert. Interesting it happens on the eve of the vote, but Im sure it’s not illegitimate at all and completely above board.

Right out of the Clarence Thomas playbook.
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By Nausi 2018-09-13 13:16:16
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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http://fortune.com/2018/08/28/hurricane-maria-death-toll/

That study is an “estimate” no one went to any morgue, and no one examined a body. They plug in what they think happened into their calculations and conclude there had to be 3000 deaths.

Now 64 people were officially seen by a medical examiner, so the “study” asserts that the rest of the people had to have died from he hurricane even though there is no medical data available to confirm.

Do you think they pile up bodies in a morgue and have people count them for the sake of statistics ...?

They use death certificates...

“Hurricane” isn’t on 3000 death certificates.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-09-13 13:26:36
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If you had actually read that article you linked, maybe you would have learned som---HAHAHAHAHAHA couldn't finish typing that. We all know that can't happen.
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By Nausi 2018-09-13 13:30:38
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
If you had actually read that article you linked, maybe you would have learned som---HAHAHAHAHAHA couldn't finish typing that. We all know that can't happen.
What am i missing?
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2018-09-13 13:35:12
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Meanwhile, 3000 people died in Puerto Rico from the hurricanes, but who cares,
What if, hypothetically, someone actually does not care? Asking for a friend. >_>
 
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By Nausi 2018-09-13 13:49:51
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Libs only care about people when it results in their dependence on liberalism.

The rest they call racists, sexist, deplorable, bitter clingers, and nazis.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-13 13:55:19
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Nausi said: »
There was an attempted stabbing of a gop congressional candidate
There was a call to shoot up a maga event
There was a rape threat made to a senators staff os she didnt vote against confirming Kavanaugh
There was a guy that shot up a congressional baseball team

Meanwhile, 3000 people died in Puerto Rico from the hurricanes, but who cares, look at all these tragedies where nobody died, can't you see Trump is the real victim here !?!?

According to one model. Another model had half that. Official records have deaths in the double digits. The fact is, nobody knows and the actual measurement metric varies.

More interestingly, you can identify someone's political agenda just from the number they cite.

I do wonder how many articles are being pre-written to place the blame for the Hurricane Florencr on Trump before the outcome is even known.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2018-09-13 13:58:16
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Meanwhile, 3000 people died in Puerto Rico from the hurricanes, but who cares,
What if, hypothetically, someone actually does not care? Asking for a friend. >_>

Let's hope someone cares about him when he needs help.
He don't need no help, so he says.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-09-13 14:10:10
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Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Nausi said: »
http://fortune.com/2018/08/28/hurricane-maria-death-toll/

That study is an “estimate” no one went to any morgue, and no one examined a body. They plug in what they think happened into their calculations and conclude there had to be 3000 deaths.

Now 64 people were officially seen by a medical examiner, so the “study” asserts that the rest of the people had to have died from he hurricane even though there is no medical data available to confirm.
Do you think they pile up bodies in a morgue and have people count them for the sake of statistics ...?

They use death certificates...
“Hurricane” isn’t on 3000 death certificates.
It isn't on one. They use terms like blunt object trauma, asphyxiation by drowning, dehydration, diabetic shock, and even unknown or undetermined.
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By fonewear 2018-09-13 14:11:13
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The only bad hurricane is the Ned Flanders one
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-09-13 14:14:54
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
According to one model. Another model had half that. Official records have deaths in the double digits. The fact is, nobody knows and the actual measurement metric varies.
And another puts it about 1500 deaths higher. They'll differ based on methodology, obviously. The fact is that the loss of life was significant and the sad attempt by the president to diminish it just exemplifies his absolute lack of giving a ***.
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I do wonder how many articles are being pre-written to place the blame for the Hurricane Florencr on Trump before the outcome is even known.
*** christ he's not the victim when it comes to natural disasters.
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By Viciouss 2018-09-13 14:16:12
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Nausi said: »
Anyone know where the 3000 people number comes from?

Yes, all of us know. Except you obviously.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-13 14:16:34
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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According to one model. Another model had half that. Official records have deaths in the double digits. The fact is, nobody knows and the actual measurement metric varies.

The 1400 number was from Puerto Rico's estimate and they asked the George Washington University to complete it.

Advice from a stats guy: Never assume a model is correct, no matter who puts it together. If I made a model, I would tell you to check my assumptions, check my definitions, and check my raw data before accepting my conclusions. There is a stupid amount of blind acceptance in statistics and that is a death sentence to true science.
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By Viciouss 2018-09-13 14:17:10
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Meanwhile Republicans are running away from Trump and his lie of the day.
 
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