Luck Of The Draw: A Corsair's Guide *NEW*

I haven't done this yet for my COR or RNG, but depending on sets you may get away with tossing macc/mdmg on your Ambuscade Cape versus racc/ratk. COR is a bit low on attack, so it might not pan out the way it does on RNG or a SAM building a hybrid WS cape, but I'd be curious how it plays out in max-buff situations.

PM me any new sets you come up with and I'll be happy to add them to the guide for you. :)

Hey, noob question:

If you roll in Rostam(c) then double up without it on, do you still get the +8 rolls or does it have to be on for double up as well?

Yes. All the potency/duration gear needs to be in the actual Phantom Roll set, Double up doesn't require any potency/duration gear.

Perfect, thanks for clarifying that for me. I don't use rostam in my doubleup set so I can be TPing during that time and didn't know if it was affecting. Cheers

FYI: Rostam Path C is needed to be equipped for double up ONLY if you want the 11 roll HP/MP recovery.

Luzaf's ring needs to be worn during double up for extended range.

Its all fine and well saying just use Nyame set at R25. Problem is this is most unhelpful to alot of people who dont even have nyame or do have it but is unranked. really wish people would do alternative sets that people can use that dont thave Odyssey gear fully RP'd

The sets on the first page of this guide are still fine. There hasn't been any non-Odyssey gear that replaces the main slots of those sets and that probably won't change until empy +3 is released.

What's the next best alternative to Orpheus for Leaden?

Skyrmir cord+1 last i recall and eschan stone before that

Is that Sveltesse Gouriz +1 listed on the main page (assuming pre-Orpheus) dated too? Pretty much comparing that, Eschan Stone, Skrymir, and Fotia.

I'm assuming you're talking about situations where obi conditions aren't met? That would win otherwise. So much darkness weather in endgame, and for everything else there's always SCH! :)

Dont use Fotia belt for Leaden and iirc Sveltesse was there because Leaden is 100% AGI mod and the BIS Leaden set already has a lot of MAB making the AGI slightly better. You can also use Anrin Obi for double dark weather events like Dyna D and Leaden weak mobs in Ody.

Thanks guys

Umm that is already done -.-. If you don't have Odyssey gears, use the pre Odyssey sets on the first page...

I meant the guy who asked for the set says they needed "updated sets" because the first page is outdated, so obviously they wanted a post Odyssey set?

If I post a pre-Odyssey set that is identical to the first page then it's not really answering their question....idk why is it not helpful if pre-Odyssey set was not what they asked for.

Hust a quick question.
For savage blade spam is dermsal degen +1 still the better offhand ( I TP in full malignance)

I was under the impression that R15 Demersal Degen +1 was only necessary on COR if you need accuracy, otherwise, Blurred Knife +1 was still the go-to OH for SB spam.

Short answer: It depends, and not really. In general gelti should be the go-to offhand, not blurred.

Long answer:
Assuming you are spamming SB and not waiting for SCing:

If your attack is uncapped and TP in 5/5 malig all the time:
Gleti r25 > crepuscular > blurred +1 > gleti r0 > degen R15

If your attack is capped and TP in malig:
Crepuscular > blurred +1 > Gleti r25 > Gleti r0 > degen R15

That being said, I rarely need to full time 50 DT if I'm not doing v20 runs so I often settle with 18-28 DT in C run. In that case:

Attack Capped:
Crepuscular > Gleti r25 > Gleti r0 > blurred +1 > degen R15

Attack uncapped:
Gleti r25 > crepuscular > Gleti r0 > blurred +1 > degen R15

Verdict:
In general, gelti should be the best offhand most of the time, this is because cor can't cap attack easily in most of the newer content these days, and even if you can, you should be swapping in PDL+ gears first before changing your OH to something else.

If you can cap attack, then crepuscular is the way to go.

If you always TP in malig and 100% sure your attack is capped in a PDL+ SB set, and you don't have crepuscular, then OH blurred can be justified.

However, as soon as your attack is uncapped or swap out of malig for more multi attack, blurred quickly fall behind gleti.

In C If you always solo a mob, and you need 2 WS to kill regardless of your SB dmg, then blurred may be justified, to reach 1000 TP for the 2nd WS 0.03-0.2 round faster depending on your TP set. But you can ended up killing the same mob with another guy anyways, and the TP speed advantage that blurred has is extremely small, so I'd still aim for higher overall dps with gleti.

Gleti also has better performance than blurred if you get hit with amnesia, which can happen in C.

The pro-degen argument was made before Nyame and ML, since most of the good wsd gear at that time were DM augment or JSE, which lacks acc. It's really not the case with Nyame and ML anymore. I wouldn't consider it.

tl;dr: Use gleti if you are not sure what to use.

Just sharing for anyone who doesn't know yet....hot shot also pad the parse with 99999 dmg on qutrubs ._.. on Floor 1 hot shot x1 + melee DPS can kill one sometimes.

Can someone post an example of a hotshot set?

One on previous page.

Was working on it but here it is. Special thanks to Baniak's Spreadsheet again.

ItemSet 385389

Back: AGI racc rattk wsd. (Same as last stand)

-Both fotia performs extremely well. Fotia neck comfortably beats JSE+2 neck and the difference is huge. I guess ftp +0.1 is just that good if WS ftp is so low.

-Fotia waist is a bit tricky. If you ws at 1000 TP it also beats Orpheus but at higher TP Orpheus is starting to win. I guess that's because affinity multiplayer works better at higher TP.

Personally, Id default fotia waist but swap to Orpheus at high tp and WS at melee range. I'd use fotia waist on qutrubs too.(Hotshot does capped dmg on qutrubs easily so getting that fotia proc is better)

-If your attack is capped, living bullet > Chrono bullet and vice versa. I use Chrono bullet as default cuz attack sucked on cor.

- Again if your attack is capped, use mdmg augment back(same as leaden).

- lanun +3 body is a good alternative if you don't have high rank augment on Nyame body.

- This WS scales extremely well with more TP. From 1000-1250 is 14% increase and 28% increase from 1250-2250. It may be worth it to hold TP a little.

Edit: if you ws at 1250+ TP and meleeing, use O.sash.

Does Nyame Body surpass Lanun +3 for Leaden? If so, when?

Lanun Frac +3 has AGI+43, MAB+61 versus Nyame Mail's base AGI+33 and MAB+30. If we ignore SC damage and assume 3~4 MAB = 1 WSD, you'd need 8~10 WSD on the Nyame body to have a rough equivalence for the MAB+31.

Because Leaden Salute has a 100% AGI stat modifier, there's +10 added to the initial base damage (before fTP) from the Lanun Frac that's not present on Nyame. For the sake of simpler math, assuming a base AGI around 100 at MLv0 with capped merits and AGI+200 with the Lanun Frac +3 versus AGI+190 with Nyame Mail, the AGI+10 on relic body provides a 3.45% (10/290) increase. At MLv40, that difference drops to 3.03% (10/330).

That AGI+10 difference then translates to +40~100 base damage when multiplied by the fTP values, before adding the dSTAT and M.Dmg. The percent of difference that increase in damage makes to the total base damage (before MAB, WSD, etc.) will determine the amount of additional WSD needed on Nyame augments. You would most likely need another WSD+2% on the Nyame body to overcome the lower AGI, probably putting it somewhere around R22.

It's all going to depend on your total AGI and the percent that AGI+10 entails after compensating for the difference in MAB with WSD.

Not even Nyame R25 is better. Magic WS damage is very easy to calculate.

Umm another "in case if you don't know" thing....hot shot is also very good on ghosts. Better than wildfire, and even though wildfire can 2 shot all undeads with SC there is always the risk of people breaking the SC. May as well use hot shot on the ghosts too.

I am starting to feel that it's probably more convenient to compile a list of ideal WS for each mob groups in seg farm. I can't find such info anywhere it seems ._.

Please do that, me and the corsair community would appreciate your effort.

Here's my current list:
Hot Shot: Bat, Bats, Puk, Bhoot, Colibri, Qutrub and Vulture
Leaden*: Wyvern, Karakul, Puk, Rarab, Colibri, Crab, Marid, Jagil, Bugard, Ziz, Raptor, Leopard, Mamools**, Ram and Lotanu
Wildfire***: Skeles and Bhoot
Last Stand***: Lamia

WS Prio list is: Hot Shot > Leaden > Savage > WF > Last Stand

A good way to maximise Hot Shot / Leaden uptime is to solo camps when the tank pulls unfavourable mobs: If a tank pulls skeles and there's a camp of colibri next to it; use triple shot to solo the colibri with ranged attack and Hot Shot.

Mobs to avoid:
Lamia - Self SCs get interrupted too much and Last Stand is weak
Dahaks - Lower floors are fine but leave these to the big hitters
Skeles - Same as Lamia
Agon Viscount - Hundred fists and counter really hurt dual wielders

*Floor 4 certain mobs MEva gets pretty high so I swap back to Savage
**Use dark shot with Empy boots prior to Leaden on Mamools to dispel shell or shock spikes for added dmg
***Avoid these WS if you can

I'm a returning player - is it still useful to have Blood Mask or Mirke Wardecors with QD recast delay -X until I have the job gifts, or is it universally better to have ilvl in those slots instead?