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By Shiva.Cahota 2018-03-12 18:55:38
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ok now are they tradeable?
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2018-03-12 19:14:48
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Shiva.Cahota said: »
ok now are they tradeable?

No they are all EX
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By fillerbunny9 2018-03-12 19:22:17
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are they sendable across the same POL account?
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2018-03-12 19:24:23
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No, but they are obtainable from the goblin box lol
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By Asura.Toralin 2018-03-12 19:24:51
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Toralin said: »
Drop for everyone KI not needed, however requiring the KI would really hamper bot armies farming them for the most part.

Until they take an entire alliance of 17 DRG bots and charge for the 18th slot to a crafter.
hahahaha, i mean if the killer of the monster had to have the KI. The account would be far from a "burner" at that point so people maybe (emphasis on maybe) less inclined to use it as a bot
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2018-03-12 19:30:29
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Ionis is not required, got a Light card from the Matamata in Moh gates
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2018-03-12 20:24:59
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Started this page to keep track of cards: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category_talk:Escutcheons#Cards

I am guessing they are cross-family,not necessarily cross-zone. Keeping the format for now.

Information about the desynthing of cards is on the bottom of the same page.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2018-03-13 05:27:01
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Sih Gates(Through Ceizak crystal, map 2)

Hemorrghic Bats(triple) = Lightning Cards
Quiescent Leech = Water
Acuex = Ice.

Can safely say it is across all the map 2 zones it is mob type, not area. Has anyone tried to see if things drop in regular areas? Not just map 2.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-03-13 05:33:03
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I killed 100 mobs in foret, nothing (crabs, efts, toads, slugs, umbril)

I killed 30~ mobs in Woh 1 (Metalcruncher worm, Searc Rabbit, Velkk Junglemancer, Apex Pugil, Apex Toad)

Zero cards

Gave up since it seems pretty clear it was gates 2 only mobs at that point
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By Asura.Anybody 2018-03-13 06:00:24
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
I killed 100 mobs in foret, nothing (crabs, efts, toads, slugs, umbril)

I killed 30~ mobs in Woh 1 (Metalcruncher worm, Searc Rabbit, Velkk Junglemancer, Apex Pugil, Apex Toad)

Zero cards

Gave up since it seems pretty clear it was gates 2 only mobs at that point

try undead mobs in Inner Court.. they dropped many cards for me when I was farming dark crystals..

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By Nyarlko 2018-03-13 08:20:34
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Are the cards dropping as normal loot or direct dropping to inventory?

Have we figured out what the minimum requirements are to unlock them showing up? Any stage Escutcheon? Stage 4 started? Stage 4 and working on craft chaining?

If you are in a party of 2x players, how many cards show up at a time? Do only those who qualify get them or does everyone?
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2018-03-13 09:08:48
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Nyarlko said: »
Are the cards dropping as normal loot or direct dropping to inventory?

Have we figured out what the minimum requirements are to unlock them showing up? Any stage Escutcheon? Stage 4 started? Stage 4 and working on craft chaining?

If you are in a party of 2x players, how many cards show up at a time? Do only those who qualify get them or does everyone?

Normal loot, drops for everyone in the treasure pool, dont need stage 4.

Dont know if its 1 card per person like crystals or not.
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By Bismarck.Megabaito 2018-03-13 09:20:40
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No requirement to get card drops, and it seems like they are just an item that drops not an extra slot or affected by Ionis. They only drop one at a time, in my experience.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2018-03-13 10:05:45
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Bismarck.Megabaito said: »
No requirement to get card drops, and it seems like they are just an item that drops not an extra slot or affected by Ionis. They only drop one at a time, in my experience.

Have you tried with more than 1 PC in the party?
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By Asura.Kaotik 2018-03-13 10:06:48
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Was getting 10-15 per hour farming leeches/efts as THF in Moh gates, water/earth seemed to have about the same drop rate. Not sure how that compares to the old ones as I haven't done that myself.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-03-13 23:20:06
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Cards cannot be dboxed (yet)

I just did some cards for funsies, 2 people 6 cards in 20 minutes (not on thf)

All drops, single card

(no /actual/ data, but from that couple minutes, drop rate felt more like seal drop rate (timed) than TH related) I went with no TH and still got 6/30~ or they just have a higher than I would have expected drop rate
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By Bahamut.Riyoko 2018-03-14 01:34:20
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I tried crafting 20 Earth Cards and got these results:
NQ: Scission Sphere
HQ1: Scission Sphere
HQ2: Gravitation Sphere
HQ3: Darkness Sphere

Edit: with water cards I've gotten similar results
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By dnoons 2018-03-14 02:30:52
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Woh Gates 2, Chain 400, 78 cards. 19.5% drop rate

Bounding Twitherym - Lightning Card + Wind Crystal = Imp/ Imp/ Frag/ Light
Pestiferous Acuex - Ice card + Lightning Crystal = Ind/ Ind/ Dist/ Dark

My chains (let me know if there is something better)
Det > Scis > Liq > Imp > Grav > Dist > Dark = 45
Imp > Liq > Scis > Liq > Imp > Frag > Light = 42
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By Ragnarok.Phuoc 2018-03-14 04:53:55
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dnoons said: »
Woh Gates 2, Chain 400, 78 cards. 19.5% drop rate

Bounding Twitherym - Lightning Card + Wind Crystal = Imp/ Imp/ Frag/ Light
Pestiferous Acuex - Ice card + Lightning Crystal = Ind/ Ind/ Dist/ Dark

My chains (let me know if there is something better)
Det > Scis > Liq > Imp > Grav > Dist > Dark = 45
Imp > Liq > Scis > Liq > Imp > Frag > Light = 42

Is this with some form of th? How long did it took u to get that chain 400?
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By Asura.Inuyushi 2018-03-14 07:02:43
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If you average a kill every 20 seconds, you can hit Chain 400 in 80 minutes.
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By Nyarlko 2018-03-14 07:26:47
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Are people seeing better success rates than pre-update desynth items?
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2018-03-14 09:31:05
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Based on information given, I am pretty sure I figured out the desynth pattern:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category_talk:Escutcheons#Desynth

Please help with verification tags. Need more info on type of crystals for each card too.
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By dnoons 2018-03-14 21:09:02
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Ragnarok.Phuoc said: »
dnoons said: »
Woh Gates 2, Chain 400, 78 cards. 19.5% drop rate

Bounding Twitherym - Lightning Card + Wind Crystal = Imp/ Imp/ Frag/ Light
Pestiferous Acuex - Ice card + Lightning Crystal = Ind/ Ind/ Dist/ Dark

My chains (let me know if there is something better)
Det > Scis > Liq > Imp > Grav > Dist > Dark = 45
Imp > Liq > Scis > Liq > Imp > Frag > Light = 42

Is this with some form of th? How long did it took u to get that chain 400?

Full-time TH8, 3 hours, some TH9/TH10 procs but wasn't spamming Feint; was also PLing, so wasn't maxed out damage.
Twitherym died fast and Acuex were one shot SAWS or TAWS.

Sylph.Funkworkz said: »
Based on information given, I am pretty sure I figured out the desynth pattern:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category_talk:Escutcheons#Desynth

Please help with verification tags. Need more info on type of crystals for each card too.

I can confirm:
Lightning Card + Wind Crystal = Imp/ Imp/ Frag/ Light
Ice card + Lightning Crystal = Ind/ Ind/ Dist/ Dark
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2018-03-14 21:41:43
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Has anyone seen more than one in a loot pool at a time?

Was wondering if the drop it similar to Beastman/Kindred Seals, in which you can only have one per party in the loot pool at a time. So if you have three parties in an alliance, you can have up to 3 in the loot pool, versus only having one for a single pary.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2018-03-14 21:58:50
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Yeah, got multiple ice cards from cleaving Acuex when running through Moh
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-03-15 07:11:32
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TH didn't really seem to have that much affect, small sample size though
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2018-03-15 07:34:15
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It does. Went down to Woh on Sam last night, and it didn't go too well lol. Pretty sure on the OF confirmed it today as well.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-03-15 07:43:41
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Just a really bad start I guess, random being notsorandom.

First 20 minutes or so no cards then end up with 23 in the next 40
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By Pankas 2018-03-15 14:38:07
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How is the cards desynth rate guys, better, worse, same?
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2018-03-15 15:01:56
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My guess would be better considering they stack to 99 and you can get food/ionis/w/e benefits may help and craft in town?
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