Random Politics & Religion #25

Yeah I know. I dont have time to create a Thread that would just wind up Locked. Besides yall keep talking as if such debates carry some sort of deep meaning.

You listen to those ppl. They tell you CRIMINAL
You listen to these ppl. They tell you INNOCENT

Your "debate" makes zero difference. Might as well learn something along the way. . . or Not

Can a mod topic ban Akson from this thread already?

Only science allowed here is global warming, and only because that's really a religion (and therefor, a topic for this thread).

You should cuz every single time yall ever debated against me I proved every single one of you as In-cor-rect.

No, that would require actual scientific knowledge and a coherent argument. What you gave us was a bunch of incoherent diatribes, laughable insults (g-tards, really?), and a blatant disregard for even the simplest concepts in physics such as relative motion. You haven't even proved one thing incorrect.

No, that would require actual scientific knowledge and a coherent argument. What you gave us was a bunch of incoherent diatribes, laughable insults (g-tards, really?), and a blatant disregard for even the simplest concepts in physics such as relative motion. You haven't even proved one thing incorrect.

"I dont know how to read nor comprehend English"

And finally we have an example where selective quoting actually makes more sense than the entire post in context.

Stop watching CNN and go look at the exact statements, not their cropping if them.

Incoherent. Having issues understanding you. We found G-Waves, SMBH, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, Planet #9, Planet #10 + Planet #11~396 million different halfass Gravity theories to explain the Universe w/

We’re still not clean on this, Chris [Wallace]. If there’s nothing there — and that’s what they tell us, they tell us there’s nothing to this and nothing came of it, there’s a nothingburger, it wasn’t even memorable, didn’t write it down, didn’t tell you about it, because it wasn’t anything so I didn’t even remember it — with a Russian interpreter in the room at Trump Tower? If all of that, why all these lies? Why is it lie after lie after lie? If you clean, come on clean, you know? My grandmother used to say when first we practice to — Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. The deception, Chris, is mind-boggling. And there are still people who are out there who believe we’re making it up. And one day they’re gonna realize we’re not and look around and go, Where are we, and why are we getting told all these lies?

So is this gibberish the new Time Cube? If it is I've got to tell you I've met Gene Ray, and you're no Gene Ray.

Libs are hilarious. Jr didnt expect the reality of content of the meeting. The lawyer could have brought putin himself and it wouldnt matter.

The whole thing was a setup by the obama justice separtment. Get used to saying it.

Also why they didn't use it in the campaign.

Washington (CNN)The June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort included at least eight people.

The revelation of additional participants comes as The Associated Press first reported Friday that a Russian-American lobbyist named Rinat Akhmetshin said he also attended the June 2016 meeting with Donald Trump Jr. CNN has reached out to Akhmetshin for comment.

So far acknowledged in attendance: Trump Jr., Kushner, Manafort, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, Akhmetshin and publicist Rob Goldstone, who helped set up the meeting. A source familiar with the circumstances told CNN there were at least two other people in the room as well, a translator and a representative of the Russian family who had asked Goldstone to set up the meeting. The source did not provide the names.

Akhmetshin is a registered lobbyist for Veselnitskaya's organization, which has focused on lobbying Washington to overturn the Magnitsky sanctions, according to lobbying records. The Magnitsky Act allows the US to withhold visas and freeze the assets of Russians thought to have violated human rights. Veselnitskaya founded a group purporting to seek the removal of Moscow's ban on the adoption of Russian children by US citizens, which it put in place in retaliation for the Magnitsky Act. She has also sought to repeal that law.

Earlier this year, Sen. Charles Grassley had written a letter to John Kelly, the secretary of Homeland Security, describing Akhmetshin as "a Russian immigrant to the United States who has been accused of acting as an unregistered agent for Russian interests and apparently has ties to Russian intelligence." Grassley was requesting "all information" on Akhmetshin's immigration history.

Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, who has been lobbied by Akhmetshin, told CNN earlier this year that the lobbyist is someone with "an ulterior motive" who is "involved with people who've got an agenda" and has "international connections to different groups in Russia." When asked if he thought Akhmetshin was connected to the Russian security services, Rohrabacher said: "I would certainly not rule that out."

On Friday, Akhmetshin denied to The Washington Post that he was ever an intelligence agent but said he did serve two years in a Soviet military unit that handled counter-intelligence.

"At no time have I ever worked for the Russian government or any of its agencies. I was not an intelligence officer. Never," he told the Post.

Akhmetshin also told the AP the meeting was "not substantive" and he "actually expected more serious" conversation.

"I never thought this would be such a big deal to be honest," the AP quotes Akhmetshin.

The lawyer for Donald Trump Jr. has not responded. The White House has not commented yet either.

NBC was first to report the extra person at the meeting.
On June 9, 2016, Trump Jr., met with Veselnitskaya. He accepted the meeting on the premise that he would be offered damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

According to tweets published by Trump Jr. earlier this week, Goldstone sent him an email pointing to "a Russian government attorney" as the source of potential information that could damage Clinton.

"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump," Goldstone, who represents the son of an Azerbaijani-Russian businessman close to Russian government, wrote in the email to Trump Jr.

"If it's what you say I love it," Trump Jr. replied, according to an email he released.

by showing that Lynch directly allowed this lawyer who was denied a visa from the State just for the fact for a recorded meeting between said lawyer and Trump's son

Can a mod topic ban Akson from this thread already?

Only science allowed here is global warming, and only because that's really a religion (and therefor, a topic for this thread).

He thinks Gravity is a religion. Therefor it is in the correct place.

We can't ban someone just for their beliefs being odd. Unless it is anti-vaxxing, we will kick that ***to the curb asap for being human trash.

Find a rule breaking post and report it. Regardless of who does report it will be looked into by someone, but this goes both ways so be on your best behavior too.

He thinks Gravity is a religion. Therefor it is in the correct place.

We can't ban someone just for their beliefs being odd. Unless it is anti-vaxxing, we will kick that ***to the curb asap for being human trash.

Find a rule breaking post and report it. Regardless of who does report it will be looked into by someone, but this goes both ways so be on your best behavior too.

Oh it's that thing that was debunked minutes after the accusation dribbled out of Trump's mouth.

"In Sept. 2015, DHS paroled Natalia Veselnitskaya into the U.S. in concurrence with the U.S. Attorney's Office, Southern District of New York, allowing her to participate in a client’s legal proceedings," the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement to BuzzFeed News Thursday night.

"Ms. Veselnitskaya was subsequently paroled into the U.S. several times between 2015 and 2016, ending in February 2016. In June 2016, she was issued a B1/B2 nonimmigrant visa by the U.S. Department of State," it said.

Statement from DHS:
Nothing to do with Lynch. The Obama admin did not set up the meeting between the Trump campaign and the Russians, tho its a hilarious conspiracy theory. The Trump campaign set it up, attended, then tried to cover it up, then lied about it when they got caught. Its been funny to see what credible people there are at Fox News start to turn their backs on Trump when it comes to the Russian scandal. Everything he has said about it since January has been a lie.

“On the strength of what they have now there is very serious reason to believe that these people violated the law,”