Scholars Unite!

http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/82252-goodbye-present-how-kill-av-before-its-patched.html

Awesome.

Holy ***that was amazing. lol Sample from thread:

Oh wow..
Who's ready for mantinence in the next 3 days!?

Normally I'd thre would be no reason to bother given the fact you need so many schs and tmiing is kinda insane. But then this is AV and it cannot be allowed to be killed

I don't see it getting patched (I hope ; ;). I mean, SMNs do the same thing on a smaller scale. Except that doesn't kill AV so.... and we know how SE has a hard-on for impossible bosses. =.=;

Edit: Did I mention the coordination for this is insane? D:

It's not really 1 shotting in a sense. No more then getting 9 drks with kclub together

Which they also fixed for AV >_>

Well I stand by my previous statement. AV cannot be allowed to be killed

I AGREE WITH DASVA. THERE I SAID IT. Anyway, yeah they fixed that for AV so... I guess they'll probably nerf it. /sigh but it is Legit.

Agreed.

AV can only be killed with Claustrum

Timing is not insane, it's impossible, just because everyone got a different latency, so even if you suppose that everyone press their macro at the very same time, the server will not receive the corresponding request at the same moment.

If wiki is right timing window is :

6 SCH : 156ms
7 SCH : 78ms
8 SCH : 39ms
9 SCH : 19.5ms
10 SCH : 10ms

The limit would stand somewhere between 6 and 7 SCH. 8 could be attained if lucky. I really doubt anyone could do 9. <20ms is way too tight, worth a shot tho. Even 8 would be really nice to see.

Also no idea why they tried on a lolufo. Why not trying on jormy ? It's always up, got 80K HP, everyone got access...

Where you getting these times? I mean they clearly did it

Read me...

"If wiki is right timing window is :"

Now it's not like I tested myself. So relying on what people said there, which might be innacurate. But again if it's working, why trying on an UFO ? That's why i'm sceptical. Many NMs got more HP, and could be easily done this way (ok add a PLD + invicible to hold hate for couple second).

Jormy would be the best target, not to mention they could get some mercurial Pole :] Which would be priceless for any mage.

I believe Modus halves duration time for each time stacked, so if you take normal helix duration, and continually halve it I'd guess that's where the numbers come from. With full merits it becomes 1/4 instead of 1/2, which if by looking at Pika's seems like he's using halves instead of quarters.

Maybe they didn't feel like camping?

? It's always up lol... Do some LS skill kill that ? Been doing brothers every week for over 1year, jormy was always up...

Not on every server I've only seen it up maybe 5% of the time I'm there. Also by where did you get those times I meant what math did you use to get there since I don't think wiki gives you times per number of modus

10 / 2^[sch]

Why 10? Wiki says each tick is 9 sec and full duration is somewhere around 1 min. And 2 doesn't work. This whole thing assumes that all the schs have maxxed MV merits so duration is 3/4 not 1/2

noone kills jormy, noone kills vrtra

when someone proposes a stupid idea the ls goes afk

Cause base duration is 10sec between each tick. And wiki didn't take merits in consideration, read Caiyuo.

And I really doubt that jormy is being CAMPED on any server really. I'd like recent screenshot of people gathering there and fighting over to claim something like jormy. That's just ridiculous. If you didn't see it, it's just because it was at the otherside of its spawn area, which you don't get to see when turning left to Bearclaw Pinnacle.

I mean man, you have a party of 11 SCH, you just *** one shot'd an UFO, you're not gonna sit there and say good game... You would instantly do something BIGGER. Sure AV cannot be spawned like that, need the pop set etc. But come on... What about KS99 also ? (in before nobody had 99KS ***). Or even sky gods, go to rolanmart, buy pops => done.

do any other hnm/endgame mobs have very high int like kirin?

Actually I look around for Jormy each time. He's not there alot. Probably not camped but people do kill him. His drops aren't completely worthless anymore. Who's to say they didn't try something else. I beleive his post states that each mob has a different helix clock which you'd have to figure out or something. And didn't the guy say he was banned or something?

Merits make a huge difference and this wouldn't be possible without them

That's another reason for trying on something bigger, I wouldn't even bother posting on youtube something like this, would just stfu about it and try on, as suggested above, Kirin. Or KS99 Wyrm. Or vrtra lol or is that even overcamped ? :<

Idk about vrtra I don't go down there often but I've never seen it up. But if there is something about each mobs timer being different you'd have to figure out on each one and maybe people didn't feel like it.
Or maybe he didn't figure on people going psh it's only a UFO you suck therefore must be fake

Kirin would've been a very cool test for this and seems pretty realistic. I guess if they *** up considering there's only 9 of them in total they'd have lost a Kirin pop set, though. lol I still think it's really impressive as a proof of concept video.

Timing is related to the spell not the mob :< People already tried on AV. Got 25% down with 7 SCH.

Kirin is one mob this wouldn't work on thanks to it's high int. Have you tried helixing kirin? It's just sad