Asura.Aquatiq said: »
What is the FC on the feet? My set is 73 with only 6 less on FC than you. I'm counting 79 here if feet FC is 10 total.
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Asura.Aquatiq said: » What is the FC on the feet? My set is 73 with only 6 less on FC than you. I'm counting 79 here if feet FC is 10 total. I'm getting the same Absorb numbers with Nethervoid whether or not Heathen +3 legs are equipped. I was getting +94 with the +2 legs, and +77 now. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Asura.Zacheus said: » I'm getting the same Absorb numbers with Nethervoid whether or not Heathen +3 legs are equipped. I was getting +94 with the +2 legs, and +77 now. Anyone else experiencing this? How they can be so *** dump to even break adding % to *** existing stat NVM again :D I'm sorry SE!!! It's GS problem not swapping to +3 at all. Trying to check why now. EDIT: ok I put "Heath. Flanchard +3" instead of "Heathen's Flanchard +3" and it works now. head and feet swap no problem as heathen's, so not sure what's the deal is with legs. SimonSes said: » Asura.Zacheus said: » I'm getting the same Absorb numbers with Nethervoid whether or not Heathen +3 legs are equipped. I was getting +94 with the +2 legs, and +77 now. Anyone else experiencing this? How they can be so *** dump to even break adding % to *** existing stat NVM again :D I'm sorry SE!!! It's GS problem not swapping to +3 at all. Trying to check why now. EDIT: ok I put "Heath. Flanchard +3" instead of "Heathen's Flanchard +3" and it works now. head and feet swap no problem as heathen's, so not sure what's the deal is with legs. legs in the game were renamed to Heathen's Flanchards +3 so every gs that was using it fully spelled out before broke. abbreviated works SimonSes said: » Asura.Zacheus said: » I'm getting the same Absorb numbers with Nethervoid whether or not Heathen +3 legs are equipped. I was getting +94 with the +2 legs, and +77 now. Anyone else experiencing this? How they can be so *** dump to even break adding % to *** existing stat NVM again :D I'm sorry SE!!! It's GS problem not swapping to +3 at all. Trying to check why now. EDIT: ok I put "Heath. Flanchard +3" instead of "Heathen's Flanchard +3" and it works now. head and feet swap no problem as heathen's, so not sure what's the deal is with legs. Are you still getting +77 after the swap? I locked these legs when casting to test and had the same result. Or... am I just misremembering and never absorbed 90+ before? Offline
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Asura.Zacheus said: » SimonSes said: » Asura.Zacheus said: » I'm getting the same Absorb numbers with Nethervoid whether or not Heathen +3 legs are equipped. I was getting +94 with the +2 legs, and +77 now. Anyone else experiencing this? How they can be so *** dump to even break adding % to *** existing stat NVM again :D I'm sorry SE!!! It's GS problem not swapping to +3 at all. Trying to check why now. EDIT: ok I put "Heath. Flanchard +3" instead of "Heathen's Flanchard +3" and it works now. head and feet swap no problem as heathen's, so not sure what's the deal is with legs. Are you still getting +77 after the swap? I locked these legs when casting to test and had the same result. Or... am I just misremembering and never absorbed 90+ before? It's not for the cast, it's for Nether void activation. You don't need to cast in them to get the bonus (tho you should also cast in them because they are best for it). I'm getting +96 oof, looks like I missed updating my precast for NV to "Flanchards". It's been a long week... thanks for the help!
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My brother on arms we maybe unkillable for sure now with the new scythe if the WS has good mods on it we maybe kings again. Rejoice. Also rest in peace Apocalypse you will be missed.
Seems likely a weaponskill that can perpetually refill your hp and mp pools is going to have a trash fTP lol.
I hope I'm proven wrong! That is a sexy 400 base dmg on that purple Apoc & pdl+
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: » Seems likely a weaponskill that can perpetually refill your hp and mp pools is going to have a trash fTP lol. I hope I'm proven wrong! Infernal Scythe :troll laugh: Offline
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Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: » Seems likely a weaponskill that can perpetually refill your hp and mp pools is going to have a trash fTP lol. I hope I'm proven wrong! Bahamut.Justthetip said: » Also rest in peace Apocalypse you will be missed. You would be surprised how hard Catastrophe with R15 Apoc hits on avg. 40k+ with bis set and that's at 1000TP and without Scarlet. DRK kinda lacks high TP bonus gear, so if Prime WS damage will be designed around having aftermath PDL and 3000 TP to hit potentially even 99k at 3000TP with capped attack, but you might never be able to get to attack cap with all this new PDL and pdl aftermath and it might be 1/3 the damage at 1000TP, while Apoc will be spamming 50k+ Catas at 1000TP with new song, while Prime WS will be doing 40k in the same scenario. SimonSes said: » Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: » Seems likely a weaponskill that can perpetually refill your hp and mp pools is going to have a trash fTP lol. I hope I'm proven wrong! Bahamut.Justthetip said: » Also rest in peace Apocalypse you will be missed. You would be surprised how hard Catastrophe with R15 Apoc hits on avg. 40k+ with bis set and that's at 1000TP and without Scarlet. DRK kinda lacks high TP bonus gear, so if Prime WS damage will be designed around having aftermath PDL and 3000 TP to hit potentially even 99k at 3000TP with capped attack, but you might never be able to get to attack cap with all this new PDL and pdl aftermath and it might be 1/3 the damage at 1000TP, while Apoc will be spamming 50k+ Catas at 1000TP with new song, while Prime WS will be doing 40k in the same scenario. You brought my hopes up so high then promptly flushed them down the toilet. I'm oddly satisfied by this. Bahamut.Justthetip
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Shiva.Humpo said: » SimonSes said: » Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: » Seems likely a weaponskill that can perpetually refill your hp and mp pools is going to have a trash fTP lol. I hope I'm proven wrong! Bahamut.Justthetip said: » Also rest in peace Apocalypse you will be missed. You would be surprised how hard Catastrophe with R15 Apoc hits on avg. 40k+ with bis set and that's at 1000TP and without Scarlet. DRK kinda lacks high TP bonus gear, so if Prime WS damage will be designed around having aftermath PDL and 3000 TP to hit potentially even 99k at 3000TP with capped attack, but you might never be able to get to attack cap with all this new PDL and pdl aftermath and it might be 1/3 the damage at 1000TP, while Apoc will be spamming 50k+ Catas at 1000TP with new song, while Prime WS will be doing 40k in the same scenario. You brought my hopes up so high then promptly flushed them down the toilet. I'm oddly satisfied by this. Offline
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Just a heads up that the all jobs damage simulator has a typo for Heathen's Earring +1 stating 89 PDL instead of 8 PDL. For anyone that isn't taking a closer look at the results.
Bahamut.Justthetip said: » Shiva.Humpo said: » SimonSes said: » You would be surprised how hard Catastrophe with R15 Apoc hits on avg. 40k+ with bis set and that's at 1000TP and without Scarlet. DRK kinda lacks high TP bonus gear, so if Prime WS damage will be designed around having aftermath PDL and 3000 TP to hit potentially even 99k at 3000TP with capped attack, but you might never be able to get to attack cap with all this new PDL and pdl aftermath and it might be 1/3 the damage at 1000TP, while Apoc will be spamming 50k+ Catas at 1000TP with new song, while Prime WS will be doing 40k in the same scenario. You brought my hopes up so high then promptly flushed them down the toilet. I'm oddly satisfied by this. Oh I think you just missed my joke. I'm super happy about it. Just the way simon put it "it could do max damage! but it could also do 10k less than existing". I found it slightly amusing. What I'm slightly curious about is if this makes Consume Mana worth it... Edit: Oh, what I'm really curious about is what the PDL+ on the AM will be. Granted I never used it in a serious manner, Brave Blade 3 with +20% was pretty noticeable.. I totally get that the scythe has banana's damage and the WS is sweet HP/MP drain, so RIP catastrophe... but isnt Apoc also really good solo for the JA haste aftermath? If you need MP you can just Entropy once in awhile. Just my 10 cents on that aspect. I'm sure the new stuff will be great damage and good for the WS properties etc, just think its premature to say "toss your Apoc's now"
Even w/ PLD and BRD you can find uses for most the REMAs even though the new ones are crazy powerful Bahamut.Justthetip
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Asura.Dexprozius said: » I totally get that the scythe has banana's damage and the WS is sweet HP/MP drain, so RIP catastrophe... but isnt Apoc also really good solo for the JA haste aftermath? If you need MP you can just Entropy once in awhile. Just my 10 cents on that aspect. I'm sure the new stuff will be great damage and good for the WS properties etc, just think its premature to say "toss your Apoc's now" Even w/ PLD and BRD you can find uses for most the REMAs even though the new ones are crazy powerful Still have to do the six months minimum grind first after the content is released at the end of this month. Don't toss your Appca for goodness sake. Think, use that brain...
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Sylph.Brahmsz said: » Still have to do the six months minimum grind first after the content is released at the end of this month. Don't toss your Appca for goodness sake. Think, use that brain... Offline
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With the new tp ring I think the trade off to finally retire flamma gear maybe here for us! Pretty sure the swap to sakpata feet and maybe head or emp3 head maybe worth it. The trade off for feet would be 2 less DA STP and Acc but you gain 70 attack and 6 dt. Not home now but trying to get people idea on it.
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Bahamut.Justthetip said: » With the new tp ring I think the trade off to finally retire flamma gear maybe here for us! Pretty sure the swap to sakpata feet and maybe head or emp3 head maybe worth it. The trade off for feet would be 2 less DA STP and Acc but you gain 70 attack and 6 dt. Not home now but trying to get people idea on it. I haven't used Flamma for last two years, so not sure what rings changes here? Unless you mean some specific xhit build? xhit builds are kinda useless anyways unless WS doesn't scale with tp. Sylph.Brahmsz said: » six months minimum I don't agree that x-hits are useless....
Landing on 990 TP over and over on trash mob farming, when you know even a 1k WS will kill it, and having to wait another attack round to move on to the next one can get real old fast during a 30-60 minute event. We've all been there. I also still use my flamma head/feet, the tp gain in superior than full sakpata when I don't need the extra -DT. Offline
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Nothing matters on Trash mobs...half the time the WS is overkilling the mob.
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Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: » I don't agree that x-hits are useless.... Landing on 990 TP over and over on trash mob farming, when you know even a 1k WS will kill it, and having to wait another attack round to move on to the next one can get real old fast during a 30-60 minute event. We've all been there. I also still use my flamma head/feet, the tp gain in superior than full sakpata when I don't need the extra -DT. I can understand that for scenario without SAM roll, but with SAM roll being random, are you have different set for each value of SAM roll? Including using Crooked card or not? |
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