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 Asura.Azagarth
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By Asura.Azagarth 2018-12-12 22:52:50
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true I guess, but seems a little OCD at that point to me. But you are technically right. I still cant see the SB really doing much of anything though even solo. But yes if the person is a react user, and had every bad tp move in game coded in, then yes, it would not be a bad decission like that.
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By Pilipinoboi 2018-12-12 23:13:10
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Azagarth is always the man to trigger even more outside the box thinking and I now came out with this very niche set:

ItemSet 363725

Haste: 28% (Still on that hated Haste 10% back with -5 DT instead of occ. resist status ailments.)

Subtle Blow: 4 Pieces Sulevia's = 15 + Dignitary's = 20 Total SB.

Subtle Blow II: Remains 15, total 35, with Auspice should still be able to cap. (We only lost 5 SB from the full SB set I posted earlier.)

Damage Taken -: 43/50.

I can foresee this Hybrid being alot more useful for solo/duo content like let's say HTBF or Unity NM.

A good hybrid that will allow you to still hit with enough DPS required for these mobs, not allow it to spam TP moves as much, and can take hits with.

I suppose Dagon now has another use in a possible new hybrid set outside of the BiS one's we've had to allow cap DT on.

*EDIT*

While I understand it's becoming a little too much, the reality lies on people eventually going after or even bidding 120M+ on a body that doesn't truly have much use / explored upon.

If we start posting Niche's now, people who have had their Dagon's on MH Mannequin's may in fact have more use to it now than a lockstyle / Mannequin piece.
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By Shiva.Cahota 2018-12-13 01:27:31
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not trying read all the posts from few pages back, but there a verdict on best augmented scythe yet? apoc VS lib? at point where can upgrade both soon,
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By Taint 2018-12-13 06:22:11
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Sheer DPS would be Lib. But Apoc is pretty awesome at R15. They both got decent buffs since their respective WSs are solid with bonuses.
By volkom 2018-12-13 08:43:12
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Pilipinoboi said: »
Azagarth is always the man to trigger even more outside the box thinking and I now came out with this very niche set:

ItemSet 363725

Haste: 28% (Still on that hated Haste 10% back with -5 DT instead of occ. resist status ailments.)

Subtle Blow: 4 Pieces Sulevia's = 15 + Dignitary's = 20 Total SB.

Subtle Blow II: Remains 15, total 35, with Auspice should still be able to cap. (We only lost 5 SB from the full SB set I posted earlier.)

Damage Taken -: 43/50.

I can foresee this Hybrid being alot more useful for solo/duo content like let's say HTBF or Unity NM.

A good hybrid that will allow you to still hit with enough DPS required for these mobs, not allow it to spam TP moves as much, and can take hits with.

I suppose Dagon now has another use in a possible new hybrid set outside of the BiS one's we've had to allow cap DT on.

*EDIT*

While I understand it's becoming a little too much, the reality lies on people eventually going after or even bidding 120M+ on a body that doesn't truly have much use / explored upon.

If we start posting Niche's now, people who have had their Dagon's on MH Mannequin's may in fact have more use to it now than a lockstyle / Mannequin piece.

This might be too difficult to build around but what about fallen's sollerets +3 when LR is up for the desperate blows augment +15 subtle blow?
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By Taint 2018-12-13 09:21:39
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volkom said: »

This might be too difficult to build around but what about fallen's sollerets +3 when LR is up for the desperate blows augment +15 subtle blow?

You also get the def penalty reduction.

I’ve been meaning to put those feet in my hybrid since they came out. TY for the reminder.
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Taint said: »
volkom said: »

This might be too difficult to build around but what about fallen's sollerets +3 when LR is up for the desperate blows augment +15 subtle blow?

You also get the def penalty reduction.

I’ve been meaning to put those feet in my hybrid since they came out. TY for the reminder.

maybe something like this (made this in like 2min) ItemSet 363732
ankou's could be stp/DA
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By Pilipinoboi 2018-12-14 05:31:01
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DUH! How could I have forgotten about Tempus Fugit! *sigh* It's on my DT set too -.-;

Thanks volkom! I'd only keep on one Chirich +1 though since Niqmaddu SB II bonus is better.

I heard you only need to keep self @ 25 on SB 1 and with Auspice = Cap. Chirich, 3 Sulevia, Dignitary is 25. So depending whether ppl wanna go DT hybrid or DD hybrid, can choose 2nd option as Chirich / Niq or D.ring / Niq.

Also can get away with NQ Fugit using AF+3 boots only since you still hit 26%, if using flamma or other though, still need +1 version.

Yay to Ankou's going back to no haste lol.
By volkom 2018-12-14 07:22:01
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I included 2 chirich rings incase auspice wasn't available so that build i have is capped SB1 in gear and nice +stp/acc but yeah, adjust accordingly :)
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By Odin.Willster 2018-12-14 08:30:59
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Dagon not used in any straight up DD sets?
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By Taint 2018-12-14 09:00:16
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Odin.Willster said: »
Dagon not used in any straight up DD sets?

You could use it in a capped haste scenario.

43.3 magic 25 JA leaves only 12 haste needed in gear.

The lack of STP doesn’t help.
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By Odin.Willster 2018-12-14 09:19:04
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Taint said: »
Odin.Willster said: »
Dagon not used in any straight up DD sets?

You could use it in a capped haste scenario.

43.3 magic 25 JA leaves only 12 haste needed in gear.

The lack of STP doesn’t help.
For val body, assuming rest of set is like the front page, would you go dbl or stp? I have one with 34 acc and 8 stp and one with 43 acc and 2 quad so far
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By Pilipinoboi 2018-12-14 09:49:12
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For Calad I stick with STP on mine and I maintain 5-hit without having to sacrifice Ignominy Legs and using my old Odyssean legs to TP on.

ItemSet 358496

Keep both Valorous though, depending on buff/situation etc per usual, you alternate between.
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By Odin.Willster 2018-12-14 10:29:34
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Gotcha, thanks.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-14 11:15:13
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Odin.Willster said: »
Taint said: »
Odin.Willster said: »
Dagon not used in any straight up DD sets?

You could use it in a capped haste scenario.

43.3 magic 25 JA leaves only 12 haste needed in gear.

The lack of STP doesn’t help.
For val body, assuming rest of set is like the front page, would you go dbl or stp? I have one with 34 acc and 8 stp and one with 43 acc and 2 quad so far
Thanks in advance
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Depends on store TP and MA requirements. The goal is for the fastest speed to 1000TP as possible, that's just number of hits per round * amount of TP received per hit. 1 QA = 3 DA, 1 TA = 2 DA and 2 Store TP > 1 DA > 1 Store TP. This is super generic though. So you can't weight just piece X vs piece Y because the entire set needs to be taken into consideration, sacrificing 10 DA for 10 Store TP is bad for example, sacrificing 10 DA for ~12 Store TP would be good. Ultimately you want maximum amount of Store TP *and* Multi-Attack. This is why 5 DA Val body usually barely beats Dagon in most scenarios, 7DA + 3 Store TP vs 5 TA (10DA ish), or in reverse 2 DA + 8~10 store TP.
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By Taint 2018-12-14 11:29:10
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To piggy back on Saevel.

Val with STP + Ig.+3 legs is 12 da/8stp.

Val with DA + Odyssean legs is 14 da/5stp.

Which one is better depends on the rest of the set.
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By Odin.Willster 2018-12-14 12:26:20
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This ***gives me a headache haha. Alright, thanks guys. I have been using the set on the first page, except I used Dagon and Emicho hands +1
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By Asura.Ustreasury 2018-12-16 19:28:31
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Are the +2 beads not used in torc ws sets? just the rest?
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-16 20:22:45
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That's the sad part, you still want to use them in WS set for the PDL. Sad that SE didn't do VIT but whatever.
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By Asura.Veikur 2018-12-16 20:29:38
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fSTR is still nice.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2018-12-16 21:50:14
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Asura.Ustreasury said: »
Are the +2 beads not used in torc ws sets? just the rest?
They are, I just thought I had updated it haha.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2018-12-18 20:48:54
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So Regal Ring Vs Epaminonda's for Torcleaver?

10 STR(fSTR)/VIT(mod)/DEX(Utu Mod)

I'm thinking they are close enough, I might just use Regal to avoid the -STP.
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By Taint 2018-12-19 06:11:46
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Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
So Regal Ring Vs Epaminonda's for Torcleaver?

10 STR(fSTR)/VIT(mod)/DEX(Utu Mod)

I'm thinking they are close enough, I might just use Regal to avoid the -STP.


For shear WS damage It’s not that close. Epa wins by a good chunk. The STP could be a concern based on your xhit, as could acc.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-19 08:30:49
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1% WSD is about 4~5 of a dSTAT at 80~85%. Now that's a pretty big range and the exact value will depend on how much BDMG you have vs how much WSD you have.
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By Asura.Arico 2018-12-19 09:38:30
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How is Redemption CR spam? I just noticed R15 offers 40 str, 40 mnd, and 15 dex. Seems decent for cross reaper with it being 60% STR/MND and 10% dex from utu. Is 500 TP bonus just that much better? It probably is, I'm just asking.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-19 09:56:35
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Asura.Arico said: »
Is 500 TP bonus just that much better?

For CR, yes it is.

CR @1250
2.5 + 1.0 fTP

CR @1750
3.5 + 1.0 fTP

So immediate 28.5% increase, ~BUT~ that's without counting WSD. If we have ~60% WSD (DRK can get more but I'm being conservative)

(2.5 * 1.6) +1 = 5
(3.5 * 1.6) +1 = 6.6

It becomes a 32% increase.

Also CR's scaling gets even better after 2K so TP overflow really bumps it's damage. Past 2K TP you'll start to see those 50~60K CR's.
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By Sylph.Darkside 2019-01-14 10:28:53
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Curious to see if anyone has any really solid Acc sets for Dyan Wave 3 using Caladbolg.

I don't have really any issues when I am fully buffed. However when disaster strikes and you get KO'ed chances are good that you don't have Nitro songs available and need something to bridge the gap between unweakened and full buffs available again. I was considering a acc set like this but curious to see if others use different sets or any helpful thoughts on changes.
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By Taint 2019-01-14 10:50:24
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Buffs down, swap to a Apoc.

I’m serious too. You are asking about an endgame event as a DD role which have some of the highest requirements.
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By Sylph.Darkside 2019-01-14 11:09:02
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Thanks Taint. I was trying avoid swapping weapons since my Calad is R15 and I havent finished the unlock on Relics yet. But makes sense.
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By Taint 2019-01-14 11:37:54
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Maybe something like this? I'm not home to /checkparam for acc.

ItemSet 364450

Don't forget the STR/DEX boost from Flamma stacking. Adds STP,MA over your set, acc has to be close.
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