Random Politics & Religion #18

Langues: JP EN DE FR
users online
Forum » Everything Else » Politics and Religion » Random Politics & Religion #18
Random Politics & Religion #18
First Page 2 3 ... 48 49 50 ... 65 66 67
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:19:54
Link | Citer | R
 
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
virtue signaling

It's adorable when you find new phrases to label people with on your little alt right websites.
[+]
 Ragnarok.Nausi
Offline
Serveur: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Nausi
Posts: 6709
By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-01-31 12:20:06
Link | Citer | R
 
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Seha said: »
Btw and this is specifically for Nausi: the terrorist in Canada was a Trump supporter.
Clearly trump is responsible then?
You seriously not capable of grasping the irony of this reply of yours?
I assume you mean some allusion to "all muslims are terrorist"?
 Ragnarok.Nausi
Offline
Serveur: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Nausi
Posts: 6709
By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-01-31 12:21:31
Link | Citer | R
 
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
virtue signaling

It's adorable when you find new phrases to label people with on your little alt right websites.

The most classic responses to speaking truth by people who are dishonest is denial and anger.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:24:27
Link | Citer | R
 
I only read FFXIAH for all my radical political views !
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:26:02
Link | Citer | R
 
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
virtue signaling

It's adorable when you find new phrases to label people with on your little alt right websites.

The most classic responses to speaking truth by people who are dishonest is denial and anger.

Where does "condescending dismissal" fall in there?

Because I can't take your alt right *** seriously.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:26:12
Link | Citer | R
 
Ramyrez said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Everyone thinks their opinions are based on undeniable facts. That's why it's a logical fallacy.

It sounds smart to say this, but you're really not getting anywhere.

Donald Trump is objectively a terrible person. Like his actions or not. The only question is whether his actions redeem his past actions in your eyes or further solidify his position as a worthless scumbag.

There is nothing objective about this post...
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:27:00
Link | Citer | R
 
You can't start by saying I hate Trump then say let me objectively criticism him...
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13640
By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-31 12:27:12
Link | Citer | R
 
Ramyrez said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Everyone thinks their opinions are based on undeniable facts. That's why it's a logical fallacy.

It sounds smart to say this, but you're really not getting anywhere.

Donald Trump is objectively a terrible person. Like his actions or not. The only question is whether his actions redeem his past actions in your eyes or further solidify his position as a worthless scumbag.

You're calling subjective adjectives objective? I'm so glad that there is a universal moral code now.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:30:17
Link | Citer | R
 
Let me make broad generalizations about the people here and claim to be objective !
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:30:23
Link | Citer | R
 
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You're calling subjective adjectives objective? I'm so glad that there is a universal moral code now.

The fact I'm having this discussion with someone who has proclaimed fairly strong Christian-leaning beliefs is...slightly surreal, actually.
[+]
 Valefor.Sehachan
Guide Maker
Offline
Serveur: Valefor
Game: FFXI
user: Seha
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-01-31 12:33:43
Link | Citer | R
 
Going back to a previous talk..it's not even Trump himself that should scare, but some people's willingness to accept any action from him.

I wish more here would realize that rubbing your balls on a liberal's face only serves to miss the bigger picture that goes around and that really matters. This isn't a sport, things that happen now shape history.
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:37:15
Link | Citer | R
 
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I wish more here would realize that rubbing your balls on a liberal's face only serves to miss the bigger picture that goes around and that really matters. This isn't a sport, things that happen now shape history.

That's the thing.

That is what matters now. That's what matters to people like Trump. Winning and gloating about it. It's why he's still *** off with the popular vote thing, and it's why the inauguration crowd thing incises him so much.

It's only a win if you can gloat.

Dignity does not exist in his world. What happens to people who aren't him doesn't matter.
 Valefor.Sehachan
Guide Maker
Offline
Serveur: Valefor
Game: FFXI
user: Seha
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-01-31 12:37:53
Link | Citer | R
 
I'm talking of everyone else there.
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13640
By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-31 12:38:12
Link | Citer | R
 
Ramyrez said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You're calling subjective adjectives objective? I'm so glad that there is a universal moral code now.

The fact I'm having this discussion with someone who has proclaimed fairly strong Christian-leaning beliefs is...slightly surreal, actually.

Think about that for a bit. I don't want to spoil the take-away here.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:38:34
Link | Citer | R
 
Why don't you guys run for office then if you are so compelled for the "greater good" ?

I'd love to see how you would make the world a better place.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:39:33
Link | Citer | R
 
Everyone seems to want to make a change and a difference but mostly it's just complaining on a video game forum...
[+]
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:39:55
Link | Citer | R
 
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Think about that for a bit. I don't want to spoil the take-away here.

There are a lot of things about me that don't quite make sense, Rav.

Why do I give a *** about the environment, long-term economy, or anything that's going to happen more than 50 years from now?

I'm not having children. I have no genetic legacy. I should only care about my own profit and comfort and that people think about how awesome I was when I'm gone. Probably by making a ton of money and giving it to a school or something that will name a football stadium or some ***after me. (I'd ask for a library, but I'm not sure those exist anymore.)
[+]
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:40:35
Link | Citer | R
 
fonewear said: »
Everyone seems to want to make a change and a difference but mostly it's just complaining on a video game forum...

Because we've got to have something to fill the empty moments while we're working to keep the lights on, sport!
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:42:19
Link | Citer | R
 
You have to accomplish something before you have a legacy...unless of course your legacy is posting here...
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2017-01-31 12:43:46
 Undelete | Link | Citer | R
 
Post deleted by User.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:44:04
Link | Citer | R
 
I'm not denying the sense do doing something to fill the void. Worrying about a President I have no control over seems low on my list of "to do".
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:45:58
Link | Citer | R
 
Actually having children is probably the only lasting legacy that is worth a damn. Think of all the things you accomplish in your life. And for most people raising a decent kid is high on that list.
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:46:23
Link | Citer | R
 
fonewear said: »
You have to accomplish something before you have a legacy...unless of course your legacy is posting here...

No, I'm saying that's what I objectively should care about.

I don't though, really.

I may end up living very much like the Dude by the time I'm 50, if we're being honest. Maybe with a slightly better job/schedule, which isn't quite as Dude-like, but sacrifices must be made sometimes.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:46:47
Link | Citer | R
 
fonewear said: »
Actually having children is probably the only lasting legacy that is worth a damn. Think of all the things you accomplish in your life. And for most people raising a decent kid is high on that list.

Yeah...that's not happening.
 Valefor.Sehachan
Guide Maker
Offline
Serveur: Valefor
Game: FFXI
user: Seha
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-01-31 12:47:24
Link | Citer | R
 
I cannot vote in America, so talking to you guyz is the most I can do about this actually lol.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:48:54
Link | Citer | R
 
Not to get philosophical but doing nothing is still doing something !
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 12:50:05
Link | Citer | R
 
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I cannot vote in America, so talking to you guyz is the most I can do about this actually lol.

Well until recently I would have said "come on over, our legal system is, believe it or not, not as shitty and you'll get used to the food. And you live in one of the few places where moving here you'll see an improvement in men's behavior far as I can tell."

Now?

Eh. You'll break even, at best. Don't bother.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-01-31 12:50:05
Link | Citer | R
 
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I cannot vote in America, so talking to you guyz is the most I can do about this actually lol.

Neither did millions of other Americans but that doesn't stop them from complaining !
[+]
 Asura.Saevel
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9911
By Asura.Saevel 2017-01-31 12:50:08
Link | Citer | R
 
Ramyrez said: »
Saev...same response, really. I can view his actions objectively without liking him subjectively.

*Cough*

Asura.Saevel said: »
Trump's a horrible person and a mediocre leader at best.

I never said he was a nice guy, I even stated a few pages ago that personally he was incredibly unlikable.

Trump is a horrible person, yet he actually listened to voters and pushed their ideas as policy, much to the disdain of both political parties. Obama is a good person, yet he did what he was told to do and his policies were just global progressive agenda prepackged for him. To be perfectly honest Obama shouldn't of run in 2008, he should of stayed a senator and gained experience and then ran in 2020/2024 where he could of crushed it.

Ramyrez said: »
He has objectively done nothing that benefits anyone but him and a very narrow portion of people in similar position to him.

And why would he? He's not a career politician and had never held public office prior to now. That means the only person he owed anything to was himself. That is what life in the private sector is, and anyone who doesn't understand that ends up at the bottom. Now that he's an elected official his priorities change and he's now responsible for all Americans, ans so far he's been taking that ***to heart.



Ramyrez said: »
I'm not trying to contradict you per se, but aside from religion I've never seen you express any opinion that was anything but disdainful for any "liberal" policy or belief. In fairness, I didn't post much in P&R before 2009 so maybe you were more critical back during Bush II, but...well, yeah.

So you never saw me support Obama (who I voted for) and call the conservatives here idiots for their *** clownery back then. I support socialized healthcare btw, shocker. Free markets only work when both sides are free to make an informed choice, which is great 9/10s of the time. In healthcare this isn't so because the consumer is at a severe disadvantage as what is the fair market value of good health? Good health is so critical to happiness that it's price is beyond money and thus a "good health" supplier can charge all the disposable income of the consumer. This is further exasperated by suppliers colluding to set prices and lobbying government bureaucrats to build barriers to competition.

Consumer : Good Health Supplier please, I'm sick sell me Good Health:
Supplier : Sure will do, what exactly do you need
Consumer : Well Treatment A will make me well again, how much is it
Supplier : Depends, how much do you have in your wallet :D

We've tried to regulate a private market providing a public service and it's not working. But that's a topic for a different day, suffice to say Obama care was beyond stupid because it missed the real problems and just made more taxes and less benefits.

There are some other issues I'm not a "Republican" on. Thing is, the last six to eight years have been nothing but a long market of Progressive PC police brow beating anyone not agreeing with them. Then saying how great they are because they have a non-white President. The sheer arrogance displayed is a real eye opener.
[+]
 Asura.Saevel
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9911
By Asura.Saevel 2017-01-31 12:51:41
Link | Citer | R
 
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I cannot vote in America, so talking to you guyz is the most I can do about this actually lol.

So you admit to interfering with our election system by attempting to bias voters towards your preferred side?

Russians should take lessons from Seha, (s)he didn't even need to hack a system to influence the election.
[+]
First Page 2 3 ... 48 49 50 ... 65 66 67
Log in to post.