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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:37:34
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President I mean *
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 08:37:41
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fonewear said: »
The crazy thing is who does Hitler compare himself to ? His dad ?

Van Gogh, obviously, which is problematic as everyone else compared him to a child smearing ***on a wall, so he projected it and bad things happened.
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:38:05
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I would drop off the chair I'm sitting on if CNN or ABC or whoever did a positive Trump news story.
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 08:40:04
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You can literally say that about any national leader and find a way to compare them.

I'm not sure if you're deliberately ignoring the similarities because it benefits you or if you're really so blinded by your disdain for your ideological opponents that you don't see it. This isn't a "casual similarity that can be made with any leader."

This is a man who is whipping up furor against specific people based on religious belief and using them as a scapegoat/excuse to deny basic Constitutional rights.
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 08:40:27
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fonewear said: »
I would drop off the chair I'm sitting on if CNN or ABC or whoever did a positive Trump news story.

I'd drop off my chair if Trump did something positive.
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:40:56
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Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-31 08:41:38
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Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
I would drop off the chair I'm sitting on if CNN or ABC or whoever did a positive Trump news story.

I'd drop off my chair if Trump did something positive.

You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong?
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:42:35
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Also Canada already solved this probably they want as many refugees as they can handle.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-31 08:42:58
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I'm trying to figure out what people honestly expected to happen with the political cycle. Were they actually expecting that the pendulum would stay on their side forever? Did they actually think that their side has been doing so well that they would never lose power? Did they actually think that ignoring huge demographics was a long-term solution that would guarantee success?
The real problem is that both sides of the political spectrum are equally guilty of this.

Prior to the election, people were saying (especially Vic and CJ) that the democrat/liberals will be in power for the next 50 years. Now, we have Republicans stating (Nausi and Altima's most recent sock) that the same thing.

We have to understand that no one ideology is going to stay in power for long, because, like it or not, they are all *** ups.
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 08:44:12
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fonewear said: »
Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ?

I literally don't have the time to explain to you the things going on here that you're either ignoring or not grasping. If you actually care there's about 8,000 (low estimate) articles out there right now spelling this all out word for word.
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 08:44:43
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong?

You do know that it's possible for someone to be such a piece of ***that they literally can't do anything to benefit anyone but themselves?
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 08:45:13
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I'm trying to figure out what people honestly expected to happen with the political cycle. Were they actually expecting that the pendulum would stay on their side forever? Did they actually think that their side has been doing so well that they would never lose power? Did they actually think that ignoring huge demographics was a long-term solution that would guarantee success?
The real problem is that both sides of the political spectrum are equally guilty of this.

Prior to the election, people were saying (especially Vic and CJ) that the democrat/liberals will be in power for the next 50 years. Now, we have Republicans stating (Nausi and Altima's most recent sock) that the same thing.

We have to understand that no one ideology is going to stay in power for long, because, like it or not, they are all *** ups.

Hear hear!
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:45:19
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Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ?

I literally don't have the time to explain to you the things going on here that you're either ignoring or not grasping. If you actually care there's about 8,000 (low estimate) articles out there right now spelling this all out word for word.

I don't need some random guy to explain things to me but thanks for the offer.
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 08:45:42
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong?

But, to be fair, I see your point.

Hitler did, after all, make the *** trains run on time.
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:45:45
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How bout these we send you the refugees Ram if you care about them so much !
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By Viciouss 2017-01-31 08:46:34
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I'm trying to figure out what people honestly expected to happen with the political cycle. Were they actually expecting that the pendulum would stay on their side forever? Did they actually think that their side has been doing so well that they would never lose power? Did they actually think that ignoring huge demographics was a long-term solution that would guarantee success?
The real problem is that both sides of the political spectrum are equally guilty of this.

Prior to the election, people were saying (especially Vic and CJ) that the democrat/liberals will be in power for the next 50 years. Now, we have Republicans stating (Nausi and Altima's most recent sock) that the same thing.

We have to understand that no one ideology is going to stay in power for long, because, like it or not, they are all *** ups.

Yeah I never said that. Didn't even imply it. Don't know where you get these fantasies from.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-31 08:47:59
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Ramyrez said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong?

You do know that it's possible for someone to be such a piece of ***that they literally can't do anything to benefit anyone but themselves?

Occam's Razor would suggest that it's more likely for people to not be able to see any good in someone than it is for a person to actually have no good in them.
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:48:50
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What is really funny is that if Hitler were alive today he would probably be more popular than Trump. That is a low that I can't understand.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-31 08:49:33
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Ramyrez said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong?

You do know that it's possible for someone to be such a piece of ***that they literally can't do anything to benefit anyone but themselves?
The real problem is, both candidates were equally guilty of this.

One has inherent conflict-of-interest issues due to his investments, the other one actually has solid evidence of conflicts-of-interest during her tenure as Secretary of State and her husband's use of the family's charitable foundation.

No matter who won, there would have been conflicts-of-interest by being President. Luckily, we have a person who (mostly) set aside his investments and given up all power over them to his family members.
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 08:51:34
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fonewear said: »
Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ?

I literally don't have the time to explain to you the things going on here that you're either ignoring or not grasping. If you actually care there's about 8,000 (low estimate) articles out there right now spelling this all out word for word.

I don't need some random guy to explain things to me but thanks for the offer.

Then don't ask! :p
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:56:38
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Remember when we gave a President 100 days ? I don't remember either !
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 08:58:19
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I remember when Obama got elected I don't recall myself or my friends marching and protesting that. Maybe I live in a non protesting area though...
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 09:00:20
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong?

You do know that it's possible for someone to be such a piece of ***that they literally can't do anything to benefit anyone but themselves?

Occam's Razor would suggest that it's more likely for people to not be able to see any good in someone than it is for a person to actually have no good in them.

Deep down they don't want to believe Trump is good. And he isn't Hitler. But to fit their narrative they have to be anti Trump on everything !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-31 09:01:15
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fonewear said: »
Remember when we gave a President 100 days ? I don't remember either !

Nowadays people can't wait 100 seconds.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2017-01-31 09:07:18
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fonewear said: »
Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ?
1. Because they are legal visa holders

2. Because everyone in the USA (on US territory) has certain constitutional rights unless the constitution explicitly states citizens (i.e. voting) or mitigated by congress (Immigration laws different levels of due process).
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-31 09:13:18
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 09:13:54
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
fonewear said: »
Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ?
1. Because they are legal visa holders

2. Because everyone in the USA (on US territory) has certain constitutional rights unless the constitution explicitly states citizens (i.e. voting) or mitigated by congress (Immigration laws different levels of due process).

First time in history someone answered a question. I didn't think it was possible !
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 09:14:35
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I remember when Obama got elected I don't recall myself or my friends marching and protesting that. Maybe I live in a non protesting area though...

The false equivalence between Trump and Obama honestly disgusts me but no one who can convince themselves it's real is going to have their minds changed by my words, so...whatever the ***.
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By fonewear 2017-01-31 09:16:16
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I don't believe in protesting cause it requires marching and chanting.

Seems like a cult to me. Everyone agreeing with something is scary.
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By Ramyrez 2017-01-31 09:16:53
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »

How utterly insulting to people facing real problems in our country -- conservative/liberal, rural, urban, old and young, immigrant or natural-born -- to compare them to the right/left Triggered™ crowd.

Of course, the natural response here is just to say all I'm doing is what your glib image states...but I digress.
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