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 Asura.Ladyofhonor
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-15 09:00:21
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pankakes said: »
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unstacked rudra's ~22k. SA Rudra 55k. TA Rudra 45k.

That means unstacked Rudra's didn't have attack cap, but stacked Rudra's did. What were the buffs at the time?

Attack should have been capped. I wanna say it was bolster frailty, fury, torpor, hunters, chaos, SV march/min (no aeonic). Did twashtar/aeneas 3k SA and then TP unknown for the others.

Odd, without boost/indi-dex I'm usually at 55k~ for stacked Rudra's but 28-32k for unstacked when I have at least BoG frailty and full bard songs. Figured the difference would be attack.

Is that Aeneas main hand and '2k tp'?

I always swap hands on Fu for the big boost from AM3 white damage numbers with the DT+. Going into this I assumed he was going to be tougher than Fu so I swapped at the start to keep things moving faster and forgot to ever swap back.

Side note - That really screwed me. Usually I can TA the tank and get away with plenty of time to spare on Fu but we shot right through 75% before I could move out of conal range with auto attack animation lock. Not sure if he had lower HP
than Fu or we were just over buffed, but Fu never drops that fast.

Yeah I spam Rudra's at 1250ish TP with Aeneas mainhand as my standard play. Whenever I hit attack cap my Rudra's is in the 28-32k range.
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By Lakshmi.Geneyus 2017-03-15 09:32:13
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Asura.Sechs said: »
So it seems that the order of SPs is always the same at least, that's good news I guess.
If the order were completely random fight would've been way messier

Yeah, he's actually pretty easy in the end because you are done dealing with all of his shitty mechanics by 60%. After that you can just zerg him down the rest of the fight without much thought for what he's doing.
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By Phoenix.Amarok 2017-03-15 10:53:14
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The 15% AoE terror move isn't very potent. I think worst case we had was 8s, but some evaded entirely.
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By Chosenone1 2017-03-15 11:22:29
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so am i reading this right that you have to go the card route not the boss route to get to ou?
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By pankakes 2017-03-15 11:39:44
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so am i reading this right that you have to go the card route not the boss route to get to ou?

Yes. Person with 5 KIs enters as party leader. Do card run on floor 2. Clear all of floor 3 and then go up to Ou.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-15 11:39:54
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Chosenone1 said: »
so am i reading this right that you have to go the card route not the boss route to get to ou?

Pretty sure they said it pops up as another option like the 5 bosses, so that would mean you go to fight the sub boss, so it's not the card farming route.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2017-03-15 11:49:17
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so it's not the card farming route.

It IS the card route. And you have to kill all enemies for the Ou option to pop up at the end of the Porxie floor.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-15 12:08:17
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
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so it's not the card farming route.

It IS the card route. And you have to kill all enemies for the Ou option to pop up at the end of the Porxie floor.

So the group that went Gin instead of Ou *** up on the 2nd floor, not the 3rd floor?
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2017-03-15 12:32:35
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Yeah that group thought they would get to chose Ou on the miniboss floor. So all that was left is to do a normal run.
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By Sylph.Talym 2017-03-15 14:00:49
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Asura.Sechs said: »
So it seems that the order of SPs is always the same at least, that's good news I guess.
If the order were completely random fight would've been way messier

As soon as I saw the order, I figured that it was probably consistently that way. They appear to be ordered in ascending "value" of their corresponding shogi pieces:

Fu - pawn
Kyou - lance
Kei - knight
Gin - silver general
Kin - gold general
Ou - king

Going to do our first Ou tonight, looking forward to it. Also took three mules on our boss runs, so we'll have another 3 Ous on Saturday.
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2017-03-15 20:13:55
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Just fought it finally, it's stupid easy >.> . Control dmg from 95%-after it does fullers, and it's a joke. We had two 99k CDCs and Reso's so it went from 95-->45% rq and fullers killed 4/8 of the group...Got 2 corals, and COR neck
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-15 20:39:22
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Quetzalcoatl.Langly said: »
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I just want to know if the neck stacks.

It doesn't stack. In fact barataria ring takes precedence.

I can also confirm that it doesn't stack, but in my case Barataria Ring did not take precedence. I tested it and observed the same values with and without the ring on.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2017-03-15 21:43:02
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but in my case Barataria Ring did not take precedence

Most likely a gearswap thing on what equips first ?
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-16 00:15:20
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The final zerg is no joke, I didn't manage it "solo", but maybe if I knew it would take bonus darkness damage and I had multi-stepped I could've made it happen. Interesting to see him take extra darkness, though, opposite of the other ones.

That Coronach at the bottom missed (he was capped racc all fight -.-) and timed out when I thought we had won.
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2017-03-16 01:11:28
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It takes enhanced skillchain(probably magic?) damage in at least the ending phase. Did 99K and 70K off non-multi-step lights. 99K was before healing TP move, so enhanced magic damage might be triggered by the 15% terror move or well before(can't check logs if it was enhanced the entire fight).

Regal earring added another 15 accuracy to the set bonus.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-16 01:13:09
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Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
It takes enhanced skillchain(probably magic?) damage in at least the ending phase. Did 99K and 70K off non-multi-step lights. 99K was before healing TP move, so enhanced magic damage might be triggered by the 15% terror move or well before(can't check logs if it was enhanced the entire fight).

Regal earring added another 15 accuracy to the set bonus.

Well all the Cat take extra light SC damage, but it's usually normal or reduced for darkness. If I had 3-step darkness instead of Rudra Rudra it likely would've added enough damage difference to win.
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2017-03-16 01:21:01
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If they all take extra light damage it's not very noticeable. Light is probably the only SC I make on them and never do 99K lights unless it's off a SP2'd Fudo that does 60K or something.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-16 01:26:54
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I'm pretty sure I've done bonus light on Kin and Kei, maybe Kyou, but I don't actually light that often so I guess I cannot be certain.
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By Shiva.Hiep 2017-03-16 08:09:50
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Just did some Ou the other day 6 man (PLD, RUN w/ lionheart, 2x RNG w/ fomalhaut, BRD, and GEO). From what I've noticed, light dmg was pretty significant near the end as I closed 2x 99k lights with 20-30k resolutions. I'm pretty it wasn't 3-stepped as our rngs only did 1 last stand each before it was dead.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2017-03-16 10:43:31
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Just won w/ DNC and DRG as main sources of damage:

Angon/Allies Roll/Bolster/SV > Camlann's Torment > Climactic Rudra's > Stardiver > Climactic Rudra's finished it off in under 10 seconds.

It's just as weak to Darkness as Light at the end, it seems.

Dropped Urushi, Coral and COR Necklace.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-03-16 11:03:16
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Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
If they all take extra light damage it's not very noticeable. Light is probably the only SC I make on them and never do 99K lights unless it's off a SP2'd Fudo that does 60K or something.

Gin definitely takes enhanced skillchain damage. If I had to eyeball I'd say it's a 2x multiplier.
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By Shiva.Avero 2017-03-16 11:06:22
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Shiva.Arislan said: »
Just won w/ DNC and DRG as main sources of damage:

Allies Roll/Bolster/SV > Camlann's Torment > Climactic Rudra's > Stardiver > Climactic Rudra's finished it off in under 10 seconds.

It's just as weak to Darkness as Light at the end, it seems.

Dropped Urushi, Coral and COR Necklace.

Grats on COR neck Ari!
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By Asura.Avallon 2017-03-16 12:08:30
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Shiva.Hiep said: »
Just did some Ou the other day 6 man (PLD, RUN w/ lionheart, 2x RNG w/ fomalhaut, BRD, and GEO). From what I've noticed, light dmg was pretty significant near the end as I closed 2x 99k lights with 20-30k resolutions. I'm pretty it wasn't 3-stepped as our rngs only did 1 last stand each before it was dead.

Good to see RNG's being used for this as well.
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By Sylph.Talym 2017-03-16 13:12:26
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Did our Ou last night with this setup:

PLD WHM GEO SAM DNC COR, GEO BRD

Started with no buffs, and then buffed up after Fu's move at 95%, including swapping in the bard temporarily. In retrospect, we'd probably have been better off with another DD instead of the bard, since the songs wore off shortly before the end push anyway. Alternatively, the fight is controlled enough that it would have been possible to swap them back in.

Overall, echoing everyone else, it was quite a lot easier than we expected. Basically, I think that if you can handle the various special moves from the bosses (and I assume you can if you've built an Ou pop), then Ou should pose no problems.

Based on our parse, I'm estimating that it has in the neighborhood of 1.5 million HP, and we can also confirm that the 95%, 75%, 60%, 55%, 45%, 30%, 15%, and 10% special move points are accurate.
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By Boshi 2017-03-16 14:22:06
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We had the same %s also.


Drops were coral, the melee ring, and a moonbow leather.

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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2017-03-16 14:25:07
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Kinda disappointing that in all of Omen gear availible, Blu is only on mage gear/body and not on other pieces besides that DEX+10 ring
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2017-03-16 15:02:53
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Shiva.Hiep said: »
Just did some Ou the other day 6 man (PLD, RUN w/ lionheart, 2x RNG w/ fomalhaut, BRD, and GEO). From what I've noticed, light dmg was pretty significant near the end as I closed 2x 99k lights with 20-30k resolutions. I'm pretty it wasn't 3-stepped as our rngs only did 1 last stand each before it was dead.

Gotta say, that's a ballsy setup for first time doing boss. Even with RNGed DD, no WHM for support? BRD and GEO doing most the tank and RUN healing?
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-16 15:14:20
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Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
Shiva.Hiep said: »
Just did some Ou the other day 6 man (PLD, RUN w/ lionheart, 2x RNG w/ fomalhaut, BRD, and GEO). From what I've noticed, light dmg was pretty significant near the end as I closed 2x 99k lights with 20-30k resolutions. I'm pretty it wasn't 3-stepped as our rngs only did 1 last stand each before it was dead.

Gotta say, that's a ballsy setup for first time doing boss. Even with RNGed DD, no WHM for support? BRD and GEO doing most the tank and RUN healing?

Honestly aside from some of his ability usages (the other boss ones) he's really not dangerous at all. We had some deaths but indi-fade and Meteor wasn't even killing weakened tarutaru's. Not sure anyone died to anything that wasn't a boss move.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2017-03-16 15:48:47
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Lux Valiance and grats, you're taking no damage from Caturae.
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By Shiva.Hiep 2017-03-16 15:54:20
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
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Shiva.Hiep said: »
Just did some Ou the other day 6 man (PLD, RUN w/ lionheart, 2x RNG w/ fomalhaut, BRD, and GEO). From what I've noticed, light dmg was pretty significant near the end as I closed 2x 99k lights with 20-30k resolutions. I'm pretty it wasn't 3-stepped as our rngs only did 1 last stand each before it was dead.

Gotta say, that's a ballsy setup for first time doing boss. Even with RNGed DD, no WHM for support? BRD and GEO doing most the tank and RUN healing?

Honestly aside from some of his ability usages (the other boss ones) he's really not dangerous at all. We had some deaths but indi-fade and Meteor wasn't even killing weakened tarutaru's. Not sure anyone died to anything that wasn't a boss move.

Our BRD and GEO are pretty good healers. I was going to have one of our RNGs go BLU because I was worried about dps, but decided to just have him go RNG since we didn't have any curagas. We did take our time on our first attempt to learn the fight and did have some deaths, but it's true you don't need a WHM for this fight.
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