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 Ragnarok.Jukiro
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By Ragnarok.Jukiro 2016-12-27 18:06:54
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Cerberus.Kaotic said: »
Has anybody noticed anything about forcing a specific floor 3 mob

my group had the same thought, had our taru BLU enter us and port up every time... for the first 3-4 runs we would always get the same 3rd floor nm... until we were proven wrong several times in a row after that.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2016-12-27 18:15:17
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Small sample size. It's random.
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-12-27 18:25:48
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How about treasure drops? I know how the loot system normally works but the final MB seems really weird. Every time we use no forms of TH we always get double upgrade items, it's a bit ridiculous. But if we use some form of TH, from our BRD being /THF with the belt to a RNG tossing bounty shot, we have a decent rate of seeing one gear drop instead of the second scale. Not enough info to draw any conclusions but going 5+ runs in a row with double mat's is a bit too much.
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By Lakshmi.Lenus 2016-12-27 18:38:47
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We've been getting double scales drop with and without bounty shots. Gear is rare as ***. And we get nothing but anus torques. Go us
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-12-27 20:57:05
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Yaegasumi does not nullify Kyou's Unfaltering Bravado damage.

Was an easy fight with our usual everyday setup (SAM, THF, BRD, GEO, WHM, XXX). Vex didn't appear to help reduce the proc rate of his enfeeble add effects on melee hits, so I just rode Seigan/Third Eye/Last Resort. WHM went /SMN and used Light Spirit as an extra body to soak up UB damage. I'd rank it 2nd easiest after Gin.
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By Phoenix.Erics 2016-12-27 21:53:01
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has anyone seen 1 or 3 drop pools? im thinking this might be like king behemoth where TH doesnt affect drops and its just 2 random possible drops on final NM
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-27 22:25:14
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I've done every run as THF so far, I've gotten double scales exactly twice, running every 20 hours since event came out.
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By Sylph.Braden 2016-12-27 22:32:42
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Lakshmi.Lenus said: »
anus torques

a-hyuck

We usually have a THF and always have at least TH4 from DM augments, double scales drop probably about 33% of the time for us regardless.
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By Phoenix.Erics 2016-12-27 22:32:49
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ive been doing it on thf also i made hands +3, ive got double scales maybe twice mostly getting dingir ring+scales and 2 ammo+scale but every SS ive seen is 2 items im thinking its always 2 items(scales/equip combo) and unaffected by TH
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-12-27 22:55:03
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Well we know it's two drop slots, first is 100% scales the second is where the equipment or another scale can be. I've seen something like 4/5 runs be double scales (I've one more then 5) yet the runs where there is some sort of TH present seem to drop gear more often.


It made me think if there is the possibility that a different loot table loads if any form of TH is present when the NM dies. Normally I'd never even think about this but ... this event seems a bit weird anyway.
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By Sylph.Gobbo 2016-12-27 23:16:15
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Asylum does NOT block Fu's EN move, but it doesn't steal SPs either.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-12-28 01:14:13
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I've seen double scales twice (maybe 8 boss clears total) and have never had TH.
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-12-28 01:21:23
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Shadowlina you need to update first post with observations on the three glassy guys! :D
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-12-28 03:51:13
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What's the range and charge up time for Kei's Dancing Fullers?
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By Sylph.Braden 2016-12-28 06:50:48
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Here's a JP video of Kei (can see Fullers around 3:10, 5:45, 8:15, 9:40):

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Seems to have about a 3 second wind-up and the range is short enough for this RUN to walk away even without reacting particularly fast, but it's kinda hard to tell how far is actually safe.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-12-28 09:00:39
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I wonder if Unfaltering Bravado can be avoided this way. We tried running back but not to the side.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2016-12-28 09:02:14
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the range is short enough for this RUN

JP Ping can be one hell of a drug. Back in the day I had level up parties on Weapons in Sauromugen and the JPs would outrange their whirl AoE move canceling it. Never was able to replicate that from EU.


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Get your hands on all-new rewards from Omen and new synthesis recipes utilizing those materials.

Hope they aren't just Alexandrite shoehorning sh*t in without actually new stuff to do.
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By Sylph.Gobbo 2016-12-28 12:18:03
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Poseidon Ring's Water Spirit is #1 Team Player World for soaking up Kyou's 10k Needles.
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By Phoenix.Erics 2016-12-28 14:38:32
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question about kyous ability we had everyone line up but twice it missed one person, is the range short? or is the cone very narrow?
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By Lexouritis 2016-12-28 21:27:14
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Just wanted to mention that we did Kin today and one of them did Death Sentence, literally at 99%. Never seen it this early, completely caught us off guard. Another party in my Ls had the same thing happen to their PLD, around 90%. Did not notice it use "Target" but not sure if id did/did not.
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By Ragnarok.Jukiro 2016-12-28 21:34:57
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Death Sentence has nothing to do with Target. Only Eleventh Dimension (3? min terror).
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-12-28 21:47:58
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Phoenix.Erics said: »
question about kyous ability we had everyone line up but twice it missed one person, is the range short? or is the cone very narrow?

It never seemed narrow or short to me. I guess huddle a bit closer next time.

Also, we wrecked Fu today using NIN BST GEO GEO WHM PLD. We were cautious at first. Had the PLD solo pull from the other side so we would keep our buffs. We just stayed in range and let it take our buffs after that as there is no need to redo GEO bubbles. I died once from Blizzaga that only did 100 to others but oddly did 2200 to me. We bolstered at 40% or so, and 25% -> 0% was maybe 30 seconds (100k Blade: Ten and the like.) I think next time we'll open the fight the same way and Bolster at 75% and see if we can just zerg it down before Bolster wears off.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-12-28 21:59:03
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Tried melee Kei today and got it to 50% before eating dirt. Slow spikes make it a huge headache trying to keep SCs coming. I think a highly buffed SAM using Kogarasumaru for higher WS frequency to keep SCs more consistent doing an endless SC of Fudo > Kasha > Rana > Shoha > repeat could take it down, though. Shield looks like it's only down while an MB window is open, not just for a certain amount of time after an SC. We were originally doing Fudo > Kasha > Rana > Rudra and then once the Rudra closed, I'd immediately Fudo again, which quickly put the shield back up.

Also, Dancing Fullers looks like 10 yalms range. Had my GEO mule at 9.5 with Widened Compass up.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-12-28 22:03:44
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Tried melee Kei today and got it to 50% before eating dirt. Slow spikes make it a huge headache trying to keep SCs coming. I think a highly buffed SAM using Kogarasumaru for higher WS frequency to keep SCs more consistent doing an endless SC of Fudo > Kasha > Rana > Shoha > repeat could take it down, though. Shield looks like it's only down while an MB window is open, not just for a certain amount of time after an SC. We were originally doing Fudo > Kasha > Rana > Rudra and then once the Rudra closed, I'd immediately Fudo again, which quickly put the shield back up.

Any idea on how much Slow the spikes give?
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-12-28 22:05:35
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Dunno. It was enough to where with Haste2/Honor March/Hasso I was swinging as if I had no magic haste at all, though. Probably similar to Kabandha's Slow spikes since, as far as I know, no mobs have varying Ice Spikes paralysis potency.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2016-12-28 22:25:12
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Somebody mentioned that "cast magic xxx times" objective can't be completed from trusts, but I was able to clear it on dnc/war using trusts, so...

also, just in case it hasn't been said yet, the "xxx skkillchains" objective won't trigger if the second WS kills the monster (i.e. if the skillchain doesn't actually execute because the monster die)

Do we know when exactly you get cards? So far I've only gotten the drops when the portal for the next level opens, or when I enter the zone the first time. My sample size is pretty low, but based on this I suspected that you can only get cards either when you clear the primary objective or enter the zone, even if you are technically "eligible" for a card (by achieving the 5 points, as per the wiki page)
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-12-28 22:26:49
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Dunno. It was enough to where with Haste2/Honor March/Hasso I was swinging as if I had no magic haste at all, though. Probably similar to Kabandha's Slow spikes since, as far as I know, no mobs have varying Ice Spikes paralysis potency.

Alright. I wonder if RNG + COR would do well. You can stay clear of any AoE and buddy up for some longer skillchains.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2016-12-29 05:11:14
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I think we might be getting chest floors when we run ahead of schedule. Something like floor(expected time remaining/10) chests.

We got 3 chests post-Gin last night and had more than 30 minutes on the clock. We've gotten 1 chest post-Glassy, which makes sense because your max time to that point is 30 minutes.

idk, it's probably wrong but there's an idea.
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By Ragnarok.Jukiro 2016-12-29 10:05:52
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Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Do we know when exactly you get cards?

Apart from the omens achieved mystery from killing fodder, you get cards when you complete 5 objectives. Entering/porting up counts as 1, completing a set of objectives counts as 1 (i.e: 18 spells casted within the time limit), and clearing floor requirement also counts as 1 (vanquish all transcendent, kill boss).
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