Random Politics & Religion #14

I probably would, actually.

But really. Maybe I need to clarify because CJ took me dead seriously and KN is asking me for my projections or some ***.

I'm just talking out of my *** right now about something that would be interesting in concept. That's all.

Everyone would not be represented equally in a pure popular vote election. Our system needs to be fixed, yes, but a pure popular vote would take the voice away from a large section of the country.
For example: Living in a city is a lot different than living on a farm. There are many more urban people than there are farmers. Farms and ranges account for 2% of the US population. NY city by itself is nearly 3%. So if a candidate was anti-farm but said everything NYC people want to hear... too bad for the farmers you just lost. (not the best example but whatever)

We need your detailed plan on this desk by monday.

And therein lies the problem. Sure, on a state-wide level that may be ok for those citizens, but I'm sure that everyone do not want our president decided by a few major cities. Everyone in the country has a different viewpoint, and everyone should have an equal say in who should lead this country.

By removing the EC, you are essentially handing the electoral process over to the California cities, Chicago, and NYC. I'm sorry, but those cities do not represent the country.

should say "Farms and Ranches" in previous post.

Actually, I'm just curious about the benefits of equal distribution would be. Because I cannot see it at all.

The second part of the post would be your idea of making it "equal"

I read it as rangers. But judging from the candidates America had this year for president I assume the majority of the population is war/whm.

Yeah, I get the point of using those as stopping points. Which is a great check and balance when used responsibly. But once you get to that stopping point, what next? Finding something that works, means working together. Hammering out the details.

That means finding a common ground to do that, otherwise it's just belligerent and childish to keep yelling "NO!" to your opponent, simply because you don't like something that they do.

The essence of politics, as an outsider looking in to the American system, should be a measure of collaboration - do you have to be friends with those you despise and can't stand their ideals of? No. But you should be at least willing to try and find some common ground that benefits the most amount of people, rather than your political career.

Therein lies part of the point of my thought project here. No more city-country nonsense. If you really want to get right down to it, the industrial revolution jacked up this country and we've had problems ever since!

Ooooh! New concept! Forced technological regression!

MAKE DYSTOPIAN STEAMPUNK AMERICA A REALITY.

*snerks*

Make America Buttersheep Again!

Dissolve the union, every state for itself, BAM! europe version 3.3.

That's seriously so *** accurate though. A bunch of guys who want to be knights in shining armor (paladins) running around with archaic weapons and field kits (by military standards) espousing aging ideas of righteousness.

I mean, I'm not trying to make fun of those militia types too much here. I mean, they do have guns and all. But...c'mon. Even if you disagree on a real world level, it's funny in concept.

Articles of Confederation part Deux: Electric Boogaloo

Just a side note, and dont want to derail the whole thing, but I was kinda surprised that when I went to vote there was no security or identity verification of any kind. There is more security at a Chuck E. Cheese and more identity verification when i try to use my credit card to buy an Italian beef sandwich from Portillos.
Does this bother any one else?

It's a random thread. Only Ramy can derail it.

The interesting and unspoken part of the 2nd amendment most don't think about; while it is your right to take up arms against a tyrannical government, said government then has the right to squash you with impunity.

That requires people actually willing to work together.

Which is going away thanks to the diversive nature of politics today. Which I blame mainly on the media (not wholly, but mainly).

I mean, sure, we have had stopgaps in policies before, but not at the level as we have today.

We are just too diversive as a nation today. Nobody wants to elect a moderate, so we keep putting more and more extremists into power.....

Oh lord. And here I was hoping to not discuss partisan issues too hard for a few pages.

For what it's worth, my British friends can't believe we don't require everyone to be ID'd when they vote.

Also, for what it's worth, I was required to show ID, as was my wife. I've been informed it's because it was the first time we've voted at our new location. It's funny though because my wife almost didn't get to vote because she's lost [redacted for my safety] pounds since she got her license a few years ago and it looks absolutely nothing like her. Mine isn't as bad even though I've lost a bunch too. I just look like I got cancer or something. She looks entirely different.

That is the point.

We are not civil about politics and never have been. This is not the first time we have brother against brother, and it likely won't be the last.

We have a two party system and we act like it is a match to the death between them. We pick our winner and vilify the other participant.

It is not a healthy system.

The whole world is shocked at this actually.
I should have come to vote too, I mean who would have noticed anyway?

There will always be city-country nonsense.

Unless you make the entire world one huge city that is. But we will never get to that point because food do not magically appear out of thin air.

It's more or less come down to voting against someone, simply because someone else told them to.

They aren't voting for their own benefit anymore. They aren't voting for better, or equal treatment.

And not enough people are voting. Period. But no one wants to address voter apathy anymore, because *** it, hey, we tried once with a Puff Daddy song, and it failed.

The more people that actually get and vote, the higher the chances a moderate would be in the Whitehouse, and I think that's what scares people.

Have you learned nothing from Star Trek and it's replicators?!

AMG right?

He's just not getting the (lack of) point to this line of reasoning and keeps trying to bring it back to reality.

I was going to pull a Star Wars AND Star Trek reference in the same paragraph, but I didn't wana....ah screw it.

Found the problem.