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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-11-03 15:08:11
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Anything else we want to turn into partisan talking points?

Sure.

Steven Seagal Is Now A Citizen Of Russia, Courtesy Of Putin

They can try to steal Seagal all they want. We still have:

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-11-03 15:16:40
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Does that mean China is winning the arms race then?
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By eliroo 2016-11-03 15:37:54
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The Philippines are.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-11-03 17:09:25
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But just, what if she deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the DNC. How the **** would fly.

Funny thing, the Bush administration deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the RNC. But hey! No problem!

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-11-03 17:22:00
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
But just, what if she deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the DNC. How the **** would fly.

Funny thing, the Bush administration deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the RNC. But hey! No problem!

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Believe you me, I will fight to ensure that he doesn't get that 3rd term.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-03 17:25:44
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Soon come the fourth Bush!

Georgie P. Bush

He is suave as ***!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-03 17:28:01
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Also, *** Cheney shot somone in the *** face....

He would be very happy if all he was ever accused of was deleting emails. ..
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By fonewear 2016-11-03 20:04:20
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
But just, what if she deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the DNC. How the **** would fly.

Funny thing, the Bush administration deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the RNC. But hey! No problem!

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Yea but most of those 22,000,000 e-mails were for hot Asians in your area !
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By fonewear 2016-11-03 20:19:33
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Now back to your regularly scheduled discussion:

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By fonewear 2016-11-03 20:25:04
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Hell one more cause this is what I want to do every day:

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-11-03 22:17:51
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
But just, what if she deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the DNC. How the **** would fly.

Funny thing, the Bush administration deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the RNC. But hey! No problem!

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And how many of them were deleted prior to sending a copy to the Library of Congress for recordkeeping?

And how many of those emails were classified on an offsite server that was hacked by at least 5 foreign entities?
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-11-04 02:45:07
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
But just, what if she deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the DNC. How the **** would fly.

Funny thing, the Bush administration deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the RNC. But hey! No problem!

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And how many of them were deleted prior to sending a copy to the Library of Congress for recordkeeping?

All of them.


While some have been supposedly recovered none of them have been released to the public due to lack of funding. They need to be read through before released to record keeping.

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And how many of those emails were classified on an offsite server that was hacked by at least 5 foreign entities?
1. They were on an RNC private server. As far as I can see no investigation on whether that server was hacked or not.

2. Your assertion it was hacked comes from unconfirmed FBI sources that there was a "99% chance" and that documents were taken. It may be true, it may not. At this point so many anonymous leaks are coming out of the FBI that every single one of them should be treated with suspicion. Last Friday Comey sent an incredibly vague email to Congress, hadn't even read the emails -unless they did before getting a warrant-, and now we know countless "facts" about an ongoing investigation.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-11-04 03:59:13
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In North Carolina and Florida, is the Trump voter suppression plan working?

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Mass purging of black Democrats from voter rolls and African Americans’ low early voting turnout raises concerns for Hillary Clinton supporters in swing states

“I want you think about a woman named named Grace Bell Hardison,” Obama said.

Hardison was a 100-year-old black woman who had lived in the same town in North Carolina her entire life. Last month, her voter registration was challenged in her home of Beaufort County in what officials called an effort to “clear up” the voting rolls. Of the list of 138 purged voters that included Hardison, 92 were black and registered Democrats.

“That didn’t happen by accident,” Obama said. “There was a time when systematically denying black folks the right to vote was considered normal as well.”

Trump, he noted, was calling on supporters to monitor “certain areas” at the polls.

“They’re just out in public saying we’re going to try and suppress the African American vote on election day, or the youth vote on election day.”

This was a seeming reference to a Bloomberg story from last week in which an unnamed Trump official was quoted as saying: “We have three major voter suppression operations under way,” aimed at idealistic white liberals, young women and African Americans.

The critical battleground of North Carolina is in many ways the ground zero of concerns over access to the ballot among black voters.

Republicans in the state have purged thousands of voters from the rolls, the majority of whom are black Democrats. The NAACP filed a lawsuit this week, stating that the practice of purging voter rolls up to 95 days before an election was a violation of federal law. The US justice department also issued a sharp warning to the election boards in the relevant counties of Beaufort, Moore and Cumberland.

Penda Hair, an attorney representing the the North Carolina NAACP, said the counties in question were allowing “individual private vigilante residents” to challenge voters based on mailings that were unregulated by the state. The private citizens were sending mailings that would come back as undeliverable, which they would then use to challenge the residence of the voters they wanted the county to purge from the rolls.

To those in North Carolina, the pattern of purging voter rolls is reminiscent of efforts to curtail the black vote through strict voter ID laws struck down by a federal court earlier this year for targeting African Americans “with almost surgical precision”. The supreme court denied a request in August to reinstate the law.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-11-04 04:53:47
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In more Hitler Erdogan news..

Leaders of opposition arrested

Not only teachers, journalists and generals, now politicians too, on the way for dictatorship. All the while Turkey threatens Iraq, and still demands things from EU(which will never get since basic human rights are being violated..)
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-11-04 06:22:29
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Excitement in the UK after yesterday's court ruling.

A Tory MP resigning

Welsh government and probably Scottish government backing the complaint against UK government in next month's Supreme Court hearing
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By eliroo 2016-11-04 07:39:11
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
But just, what if she deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the DNC. How the **** would fly.

Funny thing, the Bush administration deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the RNC. But hey! No problem!

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All the sources I've read about this explain that bush wasn't implicated in any of this and it was just select members of his administration.
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By eliroo 2016-11-04 07:57:02
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Podesta's Spirit cooking seems to be gaining a lot of traction.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-11-04 08:14:36
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
But just, what if she deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the DNC. How the **** would fly.

Funny thing, the Bush administration deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the RNC. But hey! No problem!

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And how many of them were deleted prior to sending a copy to the Library of Congress for recordkeeping?

All of them.


While some have been supposedly recovered none of them have been released to the public due to lack of funding. They need to be read through before released to record keeping.

And, even by your own source, almost all (20+ million of the 22 million) were recovered. Also, by your own source, it wasn't the president who did this, it was a few staffers (up to 50, according to your own source) that did it, and didn't even try to destroy the records in the way Clinton and her cronies did.

There's a difference between deleting it from the servers and using BleachBit/acid washing boards/physically destroying devices.

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And how many of those emails were classified on an offsite server that was hacked by at least 5 foreign entities?
1. They were on an RNC private server. As far as I can see no investigation on whether that server was hacked or not.

2. Your assertion it was hacked comes from unconfirmed FBI sources that there was a "99% chance" and that documents were taken. It may be true, it may not. At this point so many anonymous leaks are coming out of the FBI that every single one of them should be treated with suspicion. Last Friday Comey sent an incredibly vague email to Congress, hadn't even read the emails -unless they did before getting a warrant-, and now we know countless "facts" about an ongoing investigation.
It's most likely true. True enough that nobody but Fox News reports it, and we all know how much the left media wishes a Clinton Presidency. I mean, it's obvious she is a corrupt criminal, they are probably looking at her for more revenue because not only will she do a shitty job as president, but there's lots of money to be made with sensational headlines about corrupt presidents.
 
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By Ramyrez 2016-11-04 08:38:02
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Does that mean China is winning the arms race then?

Nope!

I haven't kept up in recent years, I was very surprised to learn that the U.S., in fact, is winning this particular arms race two of the past six years!

I was all ready to say "Nope, Lithuania is," but apparently Zydrunas has let the American catch up. 4-4 over the past 8 years.
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twofour of the past six years!

Coffee isn't completely downloaded yet. Errors happen.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-11-04 08:46:51
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Kara said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
But just, what if she deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the DNC. How the **** would fly.

Funny thing, the Bush administration deleted 22,000,000 Emails from a server owned by the RNC. But hey! No problem!

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And how many of them were deleted prior to sending a copy to the Library of Congress for recordkeeping?

All of them.


While some have been supposedly recovered none of them have been released to the public due to lack of funding. They need to be read through before released to record keeping.

And, even by your own source, almost all (20+ million of the 22 million) were recovered. Also, by your own source, it wasn't the president who did this, it was a few staffers (up to 50, according to your own source) that did it, and didn't even try to destroy the records in the way Clinton and her cronies did.

There's a difference between deleting it from the servers and using BleachBit/acid washing boards/physically destroying devices.

1. The source doesn't say how many were recovered. We don't know because they have never been released to the public. They were recovered years after the fact on separate backup discs.
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To put it more accurately, a large number (it's unclear exactly how many) of the messages were recovered from backup storage systems by technicians as a result of a deal struck between the federal government and two nonprofit groups that sued for release of the e-mails via the Freedom of Information Act.

2. I never said the president was involved.

3. Bleachbit is not an acid wash. It is an open source free disk cleaning program.
As to physically destroying hardware when done with it, the aides should have done a better job before retiring them
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The real issue with the Clinton staff’s practice of destroying her Blackberrys is that question of thoroughness. The same staffer who bought and set up Clinton’s server told the FBI that of the 13 BlackBerry smartphones Clinton used while at the State Department, there were “two instances where he destroyed Clinton’s old mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer,” according to the FBI’s report. In a situation like Clinton’s, there’s no way to know whether breaking a device in half or wailing on it with a Ball-Peen actually destroyed the memory chip holding the phone’s data. “Destruction doesn’t always mean destroyed,” Brown says.

On the question of transparency rather than security, none of this should let Clinton off the hook entirely. It’s still not clear whether her efforts to eliminate her data were motivated by the desire to conceal information as her critics imply or dedication to information security—or a bit of both.

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1. They were on an RNC private server. As far as I can see no investigation on whether that server was hacked or not.

2. Your assertion it was hacked comes from unconfirmed FBI sources that there was a "99% chance" and that documents were taken. It may be true, it may not. At this point so many anonymous leaks are coming out of the FBI that every single one of them should be treated with suspicion. Last Friday Comey sent an incredibly vague email to Congress, hadn't even read the emails -unless they did before getting a warrant-, and now we know countless "facts" about an ongoing investigation.
It's most likely true. True enough that nobody but Fox News reports it, and we all know how much the left media wishes a Clinton Presidency. I mean, it's obvious she is a corrupt criminal, they are probably looking at her for more revenue because not only will she do a shitty job as president, but there's lots of money to be made with sensational headlines about corrupt presidents.

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By fonewear 2016-11-04 08:50:59
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4. No more apples in the vending machine please !

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-04 08:53:06
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
low early voting turnout raises concerns for Hillary Clinton supporters

Muhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Now we just need someone to travel back in time and change the constitution so that if fewer than 50% of the eligible voters cast ballots it's an automatic do over and they have to start the whole process over from the beginning.

We need another full year of this stupid election!
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By fonewear 2016-11-04 08:54:07
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You guys actually tried to have a discussion but you failed...well at least you tried !
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By fonewear 2016-11-04 08:58:02
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If Hillary loses she will blame those damn white males that have been up to no good lately !
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fonewear said: »
You guys actually tried to have a discussion but you failed...well at least you tried !

Well again, we(republicans) are supposed to be evil...
pointing out that we did something similar to hillary doesn't bolster your case in the slightest...
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-11-04 08:59:21
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »

We need another full year of this stupid election!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-04 08:59:43
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fonewear said: »
If Hillary loses she will blame those damn white males that have been up to no good lately !

she'll blame james comey and he will meet the same fate as ron brown
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