Fight corruption in the government by outsourcing your corruption to private government contractors!
Wooo!
Random Politics & Religion #13
Random Politics & Religion #13
Yeah. Serious discussion is boring.
Back to nonsense.
Back to nonsense.
Ramyrez said: »
Fight corruption in the government by outsourcing your corruption to private government contractors!
Wooo!
Wooo!
I think it is one of those things where the goal is nice but the methods to get there won't work because of human nature... pretty much like Reaganomics.
Hmm.... I'm surprised that the "Bill Clinton Inc." memo is actually getting coverage by the MSM. Weird.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Hmm.... I'm surprised that the "Bill Clinton Inc." memo is actually getting coverage by the MSM. Weird.
Probably because the media can easily separate Bill and Hillary.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Hmm.... I'm surprised that the "Bill Clinton Inc." memo is actually getting coverage by the MSM. Weird.
This just in....
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Chealsea Clinton is a “spoiled brat kid.”
Who would have guessed she would grow up to be a ***?
I'm shocked I tell you SHOCKED!
abc news
Yet another Wet Willie to you all!
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
eliroo said: »
I think a bit of this an exaggeration the assumption is that the any Supreme Court nominees that Clinton picks will be pretty far left. Even McCain said that he would examine each nominee but his assumption is that they are going to disagree with any nomination Clinton will pick given her record. The media is just trying to make the Republicans look bad by creating the narrative that they aren't doing their job. Frankly it makes perfect sense to me, I don't even necessarily agree with them but it is how our government works.
I'm not even talking about Clinton. They refuse to have an hearing with anyone the CURRENT president nominates. It's their job to have an hearing with the nominees and they refuse to do it. They completely refuse to work with Obama, no chance of compromise.
Who said that a lame duck president should not appoint a SCJ during an election year? I'll wait.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
eliroo said: »
I think a bit of this an exaggeration the assumption is that the any Supreme Court nominees that Clinton picks will be pretty far left. Even McCain said that he would examine each nominee but his assumption is that they are going to disagree with any nomination Clinton will pick given her record. The media is just trying to make the Republicans look bad by creating the narrative that they aren't doing their job. Frankly it makes perfect sense to me, I don't even necessarily agree with them but it is how our government works.
I'm not even talking about Clinton. They refuse to have an hearing with anyone the CURRENT president nominates. It's their job to have an hearing with the nominees and they refuse to do it. They completely refuse to work with Obama, no chance of compromise.
But they are doing their job. Are you telling me a company has to interview every application they get? They read the application and understand what the person is about and they can easily decide then. You are still exaggerating and clearly don't understand the situation. This isn't some childish protest they are doing, they want a Justice that represents their views and they currently have house majority so they are within power to do that.
Odin.Slore said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
eliroo said: »
I think a bit of this an exaggeration the assumption is that the any Supreme Court nominees that Clinton picks will be pretty far left. Even McCain said that he would examine each nominee but his assumption is that they are going to disagree with any nomination Clinton will pick given her record. The media is just trying to make the Republicans look bad by creating the narrative that they aren't doing their job. Frankly it makes perfect sense to me, I don't even necessarily agree with them but it is how our government works.
I'm not even talking about Clinton. They refuse to have an hearing with anyone the CURRENT president nominates. It's their job to have an hearing with the nominees and they refuse to do it. They completely refuse to work with Obama, no chance of compromise.
Who said that a lame duck president should not appoint a SCJ during an election year? I'll wait.
Would that be the right-hand man of the guy who said he first heard about a certain server in the news... after sending emails to said server using a pseudonym on numerous occasions?
Yeah, words apparently don't mean anything.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
childish protest
you must not have watched much C-Span for the last sixteen years....that's all anyone ever does in congress.
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Obamacare: shoved down America's throat because of lack of compromise
Refusal to hold Justice hearings: checks and balances, y'all!
Refusal to hold Justice hearings: checks and balances, y'all!
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
eliroo said: »
But they are doing their job. Are you telling me a company has to interview every application they get? They read the application and understand what the person is about and they can easily decide then. You are still exaggerating and clearly don't understand the situation. This isn't some childish protest they are doing, they want a Justice that represents their views and they currently have house majority so they are within power to do that.
President nominates 1 single person, it's their job to have an hearing with him and then have a vote. It's their job. So it's exactly that, a childish protest.
What you describe here is the complete opposite of a compromise.
Merrick Garland is center left, it's not like he chose someone who is far left.
It is inaccurate to say they aren't doing their job though, which is what I'm getting at. I personally disagree with their stance but it isn't that big of a deal nor are they shunning their duties. If it is legal and within their means they are doing their job.
Remember that these people are voted in to represent people so they are representing those peoples opinions.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Obamacare: shoved down America's throat because of lack of compromise
Refusal to hold Justice hearings: checks and balances, y'all!
Refusal to hold Justice hearings: checks and balances, y'all!
Obamacare was compromised, which is probably why it is pretty crappy now. It was still subject to those same Checks and Balances. Not sure what you are arguing.
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eliroo said: »
Not sure what you are arguing.
Not to put too fine a point on it but essentially he is saying that we and our (republican) representatives in congress are a bunch of spoil sport crybaby ***.
Which... he has a point... we haven't done anything worthwhile in congress since we put the contract out on america ..in 1994?
twenty two years ago...holy ***
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Odin.Slore said: »
Who said that a lame duck president should not appoint a SCJ during an election year? I'll wait.
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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Not to put too fine a point on it but essentially he is saying that we and our (republican) representatives in congress are a bunch of spoil sport crybaby ***.
Which... he has a point... we haven't done anything worthwhile in congress since we put the contract out on america ..in 1994?
Not to put too fine a point on it but essentially he is saying that we and our (republican) representatives in congress are a bunch of spoil sport crybaby ***.
Which... he has a point... we haven't done anything worthwhile in congress since we put the contract out on america ..in 1994?
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
twenty two years ago...holy ***
Trying to remember what I was doin' 22 years ago has got me like...
It probably involved firecrackers, BB guns, and Ohio Bluetip matches though.
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nonsense. The Iraq war made quite a few Republican contractors filthy rich. I am sure they will argue that it was quite worthwhile.
Doesn't count. Iraq War was bi-partisan, even Hillary Clinton voted for it
It has to be something the GOP pushed through on their own like Obamacare
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nonsense. The Iraq war made quite a few Republican contractors filthy rich. I am sure they will argue that it was quite worthwhile.
People are quick to forget that the people of this country wanted the war for the most part.
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eliroo said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
eliroo said: »
I think a bit of this an exaggeration the assumption is that the any Supreme Court nominees that Clinton picks will be pretty far left. Even McCain said that he would examine each nominee but his assumption is that they are going to disagree with any nomination Clinton will pick given her record. The media is just trying to make the Republicans look bad by creating the narrative that they aren't doing their job. Frankly it makes perfect sense to me, I don't even necessarily agree with them but it is how our government works.
I'm not even talking about Clinton. They refuse to have an hearing with anyone the CURRENT president nominates. It's their job to have an hearing with the nominees and they refuse to do it. They completely refuse to work with Obama, no chance of compromise.
But they are doing their job. Are you telling me a company has to interview every application they get? They read the application and understand what the person is about and they can easily decide then. You are still exaggerating and clearly don't understand the situation. This isn't some childish protest they are doing, they want a Justice that represents their views and they currently have house majority so they are within power to do that.
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nonsense. The Iraq war made quite a few Republican contractors filthy rich. I am sure they will argue that it was quite worthwhile.
It has to be something the GOP pushed through on their own like Obamacare
eliroo said: »
People are quick to forget that the people of this country wanted the war for the most part.
The one who was said, in a horrified voice with eyes wide in fright, "but what if Sadam comes over here?" I had a hard time not snorting in disgust.
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The one who was said, in a horrified voice with eyes wide in fright, "but what if Sadam comes over here?" I had a hard time not snorting in disgust.
You are your group of friends don't represent the majority though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_opinion_in_the_United_States_on_the_invasion_of_Iraq
Hindsight is a powerful thing though.
Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
If you want to use that as an analogy, it would more appropriate to say it was an application in your file you had set aside if a job opened up. Then when it is time to hire, your boss is like "remember this guy? We liked him didn't we", and you refuse to even review it because screw your boss.
If you want to use that as an analogy it would be more appropriate to say that the president of the united states asks you to hire a guy and you and your friends disagree with the president and think that anyone who recommends will be working towards his goal and not yours. You and your friends decide that the president of the US doesn't have your best interest in mind and decide to ignore his decisions.
Sorry Eliroo, but they should have the common courtesy to give the guy a hearing before they kick him down the road.
Indeed they have an obligation to give the guy a hearing. They have no obligation to approve him however.
Indeed they have an obligation to give the guy a hearing. They have no obligation to approve him however.
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You are missing the point Chanti, just like Shiroi. They don't have the obligation and if the people don't like their decision then they can vote them out and another person in. That is the point I'm trying to get at.
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Nostalgia intensifies:
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What's going to happen to the Bundy brothers? Prison for life? EXECUTION FOR TREASON?!?1?
Bundy Brothers Acquitted in Takeover of Oregon Wildlife Refuge
Oh, acquittal. Close enough.
NY Times:
Bundy Brothers Acquitted in Takeover of Oregon Wildlife Refuge
Oh, acquittal. Close enough.
NY Times:
Quote:
PORTLAND, Ore. — Ammon and Ryan Bundy and five of their followers, charged in the armed takeover of a federally owned Oregon wildlife sanctuary in January, were acquitted Thursday of federal conspiracy and weapons charges.
The verdict brings to a close a case that gripped the nation earlier this year with its public debate about government powers, public lands and constitutional rights.
There was a Wild West quality to the episode, with armed men in cowboy hats taking on federal agents in a tussle over public lands and putting out a call for aid, only to see their insurrection fizzle.
In a monthlong trial here, the defendants never denied that they had occupied and held the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters for nearly six weeks, demanding that the federal government surrender the 188,000-acre property to local control. But their lawyers argued that prosecutors did not prove that the group had engaged in an illegal conspiracy that kept federal workers — employees of the Fish and Wildlife Service and the Bureau of Land Management — from doing their jobs.
The verdict brings to a close a case that gripped the nation earlier this year with its public debate about government powers, public lands and constitutional rights.
There was a Wild West quality to the episode, with armed men in cowboy hats taking on federal agents in a tussle over public lands and putting out a call for aid, only to see their insurrection fizzle.
In a monthlong trial here, the defendants never denied that they had occupied and held the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters for nearly six weeks, demanding that the federal government surrender the 188,000-acre property to local control. But their lawyers argued that prosecutors did not prove that the group had engaged in an illegal conspiracy that kept federal workers — employees of the Fish and Wildlife Service and the Bureau of Land Management — from doing their jobs.
It's really a random thought, but it uses the T word..
Some of these people's understanding of how XI actually works reminds me of Trump. The scary thing, just like Trump, is how much support they get.
Unrelated: I like to look back on the old Trump commentary (here and across the internet) and how people thought the whole thing was hilarious.
It's like watching IT because it's a clown movie.
Some of these people's understanding of how XI actually works reminds me of Trump. The scary thing, just like Trump, is how much support they get.
Unrelated: I like to look back on the old Trump commentary (here and across the internet) and how people thought the whole thing was hilarious.
It's like watching IT because it's a clown movie.
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