Science Vs Science Fiction

Scientists are now suggesting that what we have known to be the Ozone layer is a magnetic field doing the same exact thing as the Ozone. Would that not suggest that our whole atmosphere is magnetized
That's what that vid you posted was suggesting. Our Sun travels like a comet while we orbit it. I was saying I didnt agree.
Yet strong enough to repel harmful radiation.
Yes, we know absolutely nothing beyond speculation and only fantasies. Having never had seen such existence while we know for sure what you claim.
Can we prove The Cause of Gravity? We alrdy know the Effect.
No need to question anything.

The magnetic field caused by our core+rotation keeps the atmosphere in place and this allows for all the nice living conditions we enjoy here on Earth City.

Mars has a superthin atmosphere because it's nearly dead geologically which causes it to not have a good enough magnetic field.

The filter is the atmosphere. And without a good magnetic force it gets blown away from the planet.

Sure, it's to keep our fat *** from floating off into space.

The effect is the cause.

That's my biggest issue here. The explanation itself...
"It exists therefor it is" Mass = Gravity - As if all planets, moons, and stars were like holes in space creating gravity toward due to being such

Forget the Black Hole... there's the Sun Hole, Earth Hole and Moon Hole to consider
...someone forgot to put the plug in the tub Theory

Animated simulation of gravitational lensing caused by a black hole going past a background galaxy.

Interesting how it clearly shows Polarity as well as a Magnetic field formed around the star itself.

Sorry, I was being factitious.

I thought the fat *** term would have been obvious.

No worries. No different than any other explanation.

This doesn't directly compare gravity to magnetism but it may help clear up some of the misunderstanding here.

This actually does help to explain why smaller objects of mass orbit, falling spiraling inward, toward larger masses? Which would suffice explaining Gravity in outer space.

The effect is a Vortex yet doesnt explain orbital paths such as the one Pluto travels around the Sun... As well as the Moon itself falling away from Earth, supposedly, and not towards us. Doing the exact opposite as it should.

Which defies such logic once again leading me to question all of it.

The explanation for orbital paths is described by fairly complicated math. It isn't elementary school stuff. All the planets have orbits that are not perfect circles. They are ellipses. While most of the planets probably formed by collation of dust and rocks in the spinning solar system mostly in the same plane of motion, some objects are not like that. Pluto isn't a planet but it doesn't matter what name we give an object in space, gravity works the same on it. An orbit is just a reaction to how the two bodies were moving when they first encountered each other and how they continue to interact as they orbit. Pluto orbits in an eccentric orbit and it also orbits in a plane about 17 degrees off from the plane of the other objects. It may be that Pluto came from somewhere else and was captured by the sun's gravity as it was going past. It may also be that one of the larger object such as Neptune got too close and threw Pluto off it's normal orbit.

One very important note that shows you that all objects are affected by gravity. The moon does not orbit the earth. The earth does not orbit the moon. They both orbit a point in space called the center of mass. This center is called the Barycenter and even with HUGE stars and tiny planets, they both affect each other and orbit the center of mass and not perfectly around the biggest object. This shows how this works:
Orbits

You can see how as the smaller object orbits, it makes the larger object wobble.

So how about the moon moving away from us instead of closer like you would logically think an attractive force like gravity would cause? This little snip explains it better than I can:


I don't want to convince you to not be skeptical. It's good to think for yourself and learn the why's and how's of the world and not just take the facts as a given. But the flaw here is in your lack of information and incorrect premises of how things work. Once you have the right information, the logic will make much more sense.

There is some sort of mathematic equation to everything explaining even more extreme scenarios beyond Pluto?
I appreciate the effort but Im seriously not reading a definitive explanation. Just like the Moon being locked to the Earth always facing at the same point so too do Hot Jupiters. While one is leaving and the other is being engulfed in flames. I mean it could be explained by one of many numerous reasons. The Sun is actually doing such or the center of mass you mentioned or something else being a collective combination. While nobody seems to think that all these planets being polar magnetically charged objects has anything to do w/ anything it seems. While even if they did put more emphasis on such in any of these equations it would still make no difference whatsoever regardless. Way too many variables.

I can show a vid detailing by satelite images how not only the whole planet but even the Ozone atmosphere are both magnetically charged protection against the sun. While another PoV firmly believes such is as powerful as a fridge magnet.
All while they claim that if I tossed my wallet into a Black Hole.
It will be processed like Data saved on PC storing information...
Which mathematic equation does that one fall under. Newton's? Einstein's? Zeus'?

All while I post a simulated image of a Black Hole showing it has the same magnetic polarity as Earth as well as a magnetic field. I could even claim that it is the remains of a star burning for billions of years into a pure liquid compound state until all natural gases were exhausted. Then what remains is nothing more than a solid metal magnetic supercharged frozen planet in deep space engulfing all of it's surroundings. Yet that sounds way too crazy so it must be a PC data storage device...

But the data is lost. That's why its sometimes called a singularity.

Your interpretation falls under no equation. The correct one is under Einstein's.

Orbital mechanics are litereally just slices of cones. If you took a cone shaped item and sliced a straight cut through it at any angle, the resulting cross section would provide an elliptical orbit of various sizes depending on the angle you picked. Here's one example.


Extremely eccentric orbits are simply slices with higher angles and the exact same equations dictate their paths as the much more regular ones.
Here's the equation:


Comets are one example of extremely eccentric orbits. As is Sedna, one of the trans-Neptunian objects. There isn't anything particularly special about any type of orbit. They are all just a result of the speed, distance, angle and mass of all the involved objects. Most of our satellites are very near perfect circles for orbits because we planned it that way.


Honestly have no idea what you're saying here. All I can say is that clearly observable events happen, we determine mathematical models which explain the dynamics of these events and then test them to ensure they are accurate. There is no mystery about how orbits work or that magnetism has absolutely nothing to do with how orbits function. These facts were determined century's ago. I'm also not sure what your point is about hot jupiters. Tidal lock is a thing that happens? It's easily explained by tidal forces due to the cubed squared law and weakening of gravitation over distance.

Admittedly, I don't know a whole lot about the ozone and magnetism. I don't think it's charged but I could be wrong. What I do know is the ozone protects us from UV radiation, not solar winds. The magnetosphere protects us from the solar wind. Are you trying to say that it having the ability to protect us and that a fridge magnet is just is strong are some sort of conflict? Again, I don't know anything about this and I don't particularly feel any need to research it but I would imagine that if this were true, they would be speaking to one aspect of magnets. I'd imagine that the power of a magnet and the size of it's field are not related but even a weak magnetic field the size of the earth would be large enough to divert charged particles in solar winds.

There are arguments on both sides for the retention of data after going in to a black hole. That's why it's called the black hole paradox. Simple fact is, we need more information and the current ideas, as far as I am aware, are conjecture. We don't know everything and there are a great number of things that we are guessing at or making our best judgments using the information we know but you should probably focus on the basics first and worry about theoretical physics and astronomy after you get a decent grasp on the foundational knowledge that we are much more certain of.

Yet mass =/= weight not to be an *** cuz that is obviously not how I considered space to be to begin w/. How can something w/ no substance, no way to bottle, bend or distort something be comparable to something like a sheet of paper. If anything I wouldve thought the rotation of planets sent ripples through space, like water, controlling orbits. Definitely not the mass of objects causing such to occur. I never cared for such info before.

Now they speak of literally tearing holes through both space and time itself. I see physicists speak of time travel...
I believed them. I saw the Nazca Lines. Heiroglyphics depicting modern day helicopters. Ancient civilizations built that make modern day archaeologists scratch thier head.

Honestly I was rather surprised Magnetic means of transportation could not be achieved or claimed to be impossible. Like a puzzle missing pieces. Everything all seemed to fit perfectly into place. Time & Space traveling UFOs lmfao. What is impossible today always seems to sound alot more possible come tomorrow.

Now Im just disappointed.

This is what this thread is making me think of.

Go ride a maglev train?

Yeah forget about the mysteries of black holes. Maglev trains time & space travel themselves.
Depicted through out ancient hystery as the transportation of the gods. Impressive.

With every new post you make progressively less sense.

This thread has been a super fun read. carry on.

I had to stop trying to read it. It's like some people didn't take any science classes, or pay attention.

Problem here is from lack of understanding the terminology and relying on just Youtube videos as source learning materials. The History channel oversimplifies everything so that it doesn't go over the heads of younger viewers. (They explain pulsars with yogurt ffs.)

By definition mass does not equal weight, but assuming a uniform gravitational field the force exerted (weight) on an object is directly proportional to its mass; Mass = Weight.

I've never seen anyone in the scientific community claim magnetic forces would be impossible to be used for space travel, it would just be very impractical as you wouldn't reach anywhere near the speed of light. Also going the speed of light is unfavorable because you end up in the future with no way of returning to the past. Folding space-time (assuming we could harness an energy source to do so) would be the way we would go.

^ "Gargantua" from the movie Interstellar.

There's lots of debates about Black Holes, Gravitational Lensing and the like but if you're curious, check out physicist Kip Thorne's insight and involvement with creating "Gargantua" for the film. It was definitely more than just getting the math and science accurate.

Starting to wonder if this is the same guy who came up with his great invention of perpetual energy device. Don't remember name of thread, wanted to look it up lol.