Random Politics & Religion #11

I absolutely love how when clinton changes her stances its "evolving" but when Trump does it, it is a flip-flop.

Your gross bias is showing.

Try again.

You talk to lordgrim all the time you're already below any level I could descend to lol...

But since I was just trolling according to you and all I mean can you use it against shiroi? Lol...

Besides what I said about Clinton can be said about trump as well...

Like usual you really have nothing to say other than tired stuff that has no meaning and when it comes to actually defending your stance you just hide behind KN and his trolling accusations...

More like I don't like people who badger people for answers but can't provide any of those same answers themselves. You're just baiting and you suck at hiding it.

I really wish Clinton would stop calling herself the "winner" on her twitter...I mean, you are not supposed to tell that yourself, that's so lame lol.

Stop trolling Rav!

Actually, I'm convinced that certain posters are trying to either get us topic/section banned or wanting to lock this thread early.

So when are we going to see those tax returns, Donald?

I spent a lot of time laughing at their responses to the questions.

I then felt really sad because I realized that one of these two clowns will be president.

What inane garbage. One candidate unequivocally supports lgbt equality while the other is the de facto head of a party with an anti-lgbt platform and at best avoids the issue when pressed. So either he truly doesn't care or doesn't want to alienate his bigoted base with anything resembling mild aupport yet Clinton gets criticized for bring politically opportunistic.

You don't like the woman. I get it. But at least make coherent points.

Fine, we get it.

You don't like the Republican party, because of their viewpoints on gay marriage and other issues regarding LGBT.

But you don't have to bend over backwards for a woman who spent most of her life, both personal and political, supporting the very platform you decry. Not only supporting it, but one of the most vocal advocates for it.

Sure, she changed her stance when it was politically convenient for her to do so. And she will change her stance again when it was politically convenient for her to do so.

So, tell us, how you can support a woman who would sooner throw you under the bus after she gets your vote than to actually do anything for you?

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my thoughts were similar....
these are the best two candidates we could find? really?

we deserve this...and everything that comes next

Sino-Russian invasion?

Or worse..LORDGRIM?! *thunderclap*

The GOP platform is ***for a multitude of reasons not just that one. Using that logic, a politician almost isn't allowed to change their mind. Mainstream acceptance hasn't been the national mindset for that long so, no, it's not distracting to remember that older generations were not as tolerant as I would have liked them to be.

So, if the GOP is ***because their platform isn't allowing changes to their rhetoric, wouldn't that make the democrat/liberal platform ***also?

Or do they get a pass because you just happen to agree with them?

Never mind you condemning the "enemy" for doing the exact same thing you do, which is to have a viewpoint....

Trump really doesn't like NAFTA with modifications Clinton made. Wonder how much he would have hated the original that Bush Sr. was trying to rush into law the last months he was in office.

Not fan of Clinton but if we are talking about her stance on Gay marriage, I don't think she ever changed her stance.

Her personal beliefs can easily be different than her political beliefs on the matter.


I personally think that marriage is between a man and a woman but I also believe that gay marriage should be legal without a doubt.

Clinton just made the statement I did but then she proceeded to vote in favor of gay marriage.

That type of mentality should be 100% ok. No one should force you to believe something but forcing you will onto others (in this matter) is pointless and just creates unwanted attention.

Gay marriage being legal doesn't impact me at all, nor does it negatively impact anyone else.


Never thought I'd defend Clinton but I think it is unfair to attack her on that point.


On a side note, I'm fairly certain Trump supports Gay marriage.

Republicans typically don't support it but that is mostly because they want to keep their religious voters.

I think as religion, specifically Christianity, moves away from the notion that gay marriage effects them we will see that issue become a non-issue given either party.

I personally think the issue is of no-political importance and should just be mandated legally and become irrevocable so that way we have stupid political quibbles over it and can focus on real issues like Obama's birth certificate.

we don't have*

Not even remotely what I was saying.

Old news

Like I said, it's ok for one party to do it, but not ok for another party to do it.

The only difference is if you like that party or not.

Shall I break out the "h" word?

When I post, what is it you read? Elven runes? Wingdings font? Did Rooks code it so your browser translates everything to Aramaic?

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