Hillary Clinton 2016 Presidential Thread
Hillary Clinton 2016 Presidential Thread
I'm just shocked people are awake at 8 am...but carry on !
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I'll answer this for you, Absolutely no nation has a Right to tell another what they can or cannot do within their own borders.
Except the people of that nation.
And when the rulers of that nation are oppressing people violently and ruthlessly?
See, you're the biggest hypocrite around because you talk a big game about the people of the US "waking up and taking back their country," yet you think it's perfectly acceptable for other nations' regimes to brutalize their citizens because of their "sovereignty."
Get bent, duster.
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But KJU, al-Assad, al-Sisi, Putin, al-Saud, AdolfErdogan, they're all such nice people! They're Lordgrim's idols!
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I'll answer this for you, Absolutely no nation has a Right to tell another what they can or cannot do within their own borders.
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Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I'll answer this for you, Absolutely no nation has a Right to tell another what they can or cannot do within their own borders.
Except the people of that nation.
And when the rulers of that nation are oppressing people violently and ruthlessly?
See, you're the biggest hypocrite around because you talk a big game about the people of the US "waking up and taking back their country," yet you think it's perfectly acceptable for other nations' regimes to brutalize their citizens because of their "sovereignty."
Get bent, duster.
What exactly is your idea for stopping other countries from brutalizing their citizens ? Does it involve a Hallmark card ?
fonewear said: »
What exactly is your idea for stopping other countries from brutalizing their citizens ? Does it involve a Hallmark card ?
Well, I mean. They make a card for everything else. If they've got a card for Kindergarten Graduation, I'm pretty sure they can print off a batch of "Stop abusing your citizens or you'll end up like Osama" cards. They could even put one of those little music chips in it that plays a happy tune. It'd be really touching.
Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I'll answer this for you, Absolutely no nation has a Right to tell another what they can or cannot do within their own borders.
Except the people of that nation.
And when the rulers of that nation are oppressing people violently and ruthlessly?
See, you're the biggest hypocrite around because you talk a big game about the people of the US "waking up and taking back their country," yet you think it's perfectly acceptable for other nations' regimes to brutalize their citizens because of their "sovereignty."
Get bent, duster.
You answered your own question Ramyrez
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And when the rulers of that nation are oppressing people violently and ruthlessly?
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
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Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
I think America is overdue for overthrowing the government. I'm call first dibs on the white house. I'm going to turn it into a Motel 6 !
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
"They're suffering, but that's their problem, not mine."
Very Christian of you.
Hypocrite.
I'm pretty sure if you throw enough money at Hillary she will go back to her day job...that is if she had one !
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Siren.Fattynoob said: »
I do not see an edit button, but it's funny how the liberal sheep say republican's do nothing because they block the pork filled bills the democrats present then use as political ammunition from their owned media outlets. How is it they controlled all 3 branches of government and still had a hard time passing healthcare?
Because there are conservative democrats.
Republicans have had control of the whole legislature for the last 5 years, where are the bills to fix things?
Five years? Make that two. And if Democrats can use the excuse "but filibusters" for the first two years of Obama's presidency, Republicans have full right to use "but vetoes" for the last two.
And if you think that the presidency and a supermajority will stop the blame game, look no further than the Democrats blaming Republicans for the unmitigated disaster that is the ACA even though none of them voted for it.
Nobody needs to fix anything so long as there are scapegoats for everything.
...except filibusters actually happened. GOP house + senate isn't passing anything for Obama to even veto. So that's a pretty shitty excuse.
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
You realize the United States of America would not exist if the world listening to your logic on this?
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
You realize the United States of America would not exist if the world listening to your logic on this?
How can we be sure you even exist though ?
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How do we not know that Ladyofhonor is not a government operative seeking to take over FFXIAH...
Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
"They're suffering, but that's their problem, not mine."
Very Christian of you.
Hypocrite.
I'm not using my religion as an excuse to war with other nations i keep that separate from government respectively.
fonewear said: »
How do we not know that Ladyofhonor is not a government operative seeking to take over FFXIAH...
By examining your statement and realizing that even at it's most wasteful our government wouldn't waste resources in that fashion.
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
"They're suffering, but that's their problem, not mine."
Very Christian of you.
Hypocrite.
I'm not using my religion as an excuse to war with other nations i keep that separate from government respectively.
ISIS called they said they want to Jihad in your back yard 3 pm. They are bringing hot dogs and hamburgers for dinner too !
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
"They're suffering, but that's their problem, not mine."
Very Christian of you.
Hypocrite.
I'm not using my religion as an excuse to war with other nations i keep that separate from government respectively.
Except when it comes to policing what people do with their own bodies.
Hypocrite.
fonewear said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
You realize the United States of America would not exist if the world listening to your logic on this?
How can we be sure you even exist though ?
I could ask you the same thing!
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Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
"They're suffering, but that's their problem, not mine."
Very Christian of you.
Hypocrite.
I'm not using my religion as an excuse to war with other nations i keep that separate from government respectively.
Except when it comes to policing what people do with their own bodies.
Hypocrite.
Your a liar Ramyrez I never once said i wanted to police what people do with their own bodies.
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Your a liar Ramyrez I never once said i wanted to police what people do with their own bodies.
So you're pro choice?
Remember when this thread was about Hillary... me either !
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Its up to the people of that nation to abolish it via revolution and make a new government that respects their values and way of life. it's absolutely no business of any other nation to interfere with other nations.
"They're suffering, but that's their problem, not mine."
Very Christian of you.
Hypocrite.
I'm not using my religion as an excuse to war with other nations i keep that separate from government respectively.
Except when it comes to policing what people do with their own bodies.
Hypocrite.
Your a liar Ramyrez I never once said i wanted to police what people do with their own bodies.
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fonewear said: »
Remember when this thread was about Hillary... me either !
We're discussing foreign policy (she's secretary of state), and domestic policy (valid for someone looking to be president).
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