August 2016 Version Update
August 2016 Version Update
hate to sidetrack this sidetracked thread but when should we be able to play? I wanted to test out the evasion thingy
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Murisia said: »
so, all that said, with the changes to the NM's will melee strategy be viable in this update? or will things stay sch blm party win?
I'm hoping for mid-range type NMs it will be easier. I'm also hoping the VIT ratio is better too.
Probably gonna be 1:1 or 4:3.... part of me wants 1:2 cuz I'm greedy.
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Treizekordero said: »
Murisia said: »
so, all that said, with the changes to the NM's will melee strategy be viable in this update? or will things stay sch blm party win?
I'm hoping for mid-range type NMs it will be easier. I'm also hoping the VIT ratio is better too.
Probably gonna be 1:1 or 4:3.... part of me wants 1:2 cuz I'm greedy.
What was the ratio before? Sadly I never bothered to look. (smh)
Treizekordero said: »
Murisia said: »
so, all that said, with the changes to the NM's will melee strategy be viable in this update? or will things stay sch blm party win?
I'm hoping for mid-range type NMs it will be easier. I'm also hoping the VIT ratio is better too.
Probably gonna be 1:1 or 4:3.... part of me wants 1:2 cuz I'm greedy.
so, revealing myself as a complete idiot, what is a VIT ratio and i know this isn't the right place to ask lol, sorry
but i agree, i hope at least the lesser NM's can be melee'd down now without uber geo's lol
Murisia said: »
Mookies said: »
Murisia said: »
when is my drg going to get some luvin? we need a update to boost drg to the same tier as blm :P :P
ya i know this won't happen
ya i know this won't happen
Wyvern doesn't seem to fare too well with the aoe tp/spell spam ya? I think they should just make wyvern immune to AoE but not direct attacks.
that would be nice, or give them some type of -dt vs aoe's
but their dmg doesn't compare to any job, they really need a massive update to help them lol
Dragoon with Trishula is an excellent DD. I know that's not an easily accessible goal, but it should just be noted that they are not as bad as many consider.
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Murisia said: »
Mookies said: »
Murisia said: »
when is my drg going to get some luvin? we need a update to boost drg to the same tier as blm :P :P
ya i know this won't happen
ya i know this won't happen
Wyvern doesn't seem to fare too well with the aoe tp/spell spam ya? I think they should just make wyvern immune to AoE but not direct attacks.
that would be nice, or give them some type of -dt vs aoe's
but their dmg doesn't compare to any job, they really need a massive update to help them lol
They did get some luvin though, from the update notes:
The amount of defense a player gains by increasing VIT has been increased for the following characters.
PCs / Alter egos / Fellows / Familiars / Wyverns/ Avatars / Automatons / Luopans
* Enemy NPCs and pets controlled with the job ability Charm are not subject to this adjustment.
Murisia said: »
so, all that said, with the changes to the NM's will melee strategy be viable in this update? or will things stay sch blm party win?
I think aside from the unrealistic acc requirements on some fights, enfeeble/aoe spam from tp moves and spells was another big downside to melee on a wider array of NM.
So while the acc change is nice, people may stick to the ranged setups if there is too much enfeeble spam.
No job in the game sucks. If anyone tells you otherwise, they either suck themselves, or only play overpowered jobs.
Yeah, monk is pretty bad right now. I agree with the general assertion, but monk is pretty bad right now.
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Your Monk sucks maybe.
that is very true as well, a melee party is headache on a whm, even seasoned ones can get overwhelmed when healing everyone
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Shiva.Siviard said: »
Treizekordero said: »
Murisia said: »
so, all that said, with the changes to the NM's will melee strategy be viable in this update? or will things stay sch blm party win?
I'm hoping for mid-range type NMs it will be easier. I'm also hoping the VIT ratio is better too.
Probably gonna be 1:1 or 4:3.... part of me wants 1:2 cuz I'm greedy.
What was the ratio before? Sadly I never bothered to look. (smh)
Murisia said: »
Treizekordero said: »
Murisia said: »
so, all that said, with the changes to the NM's will melee strategy be viable in this update? or will things stay sch blm party win?
I'm hoping for mid-range type NMs it will be easier. I'm also hoping the VIT ratio is better too.
Probably gonna be 1:1 or 4:3.... part of me wants 1:2 cuz I'm greedy.
so, revealing myself as a complete idiot, what is a VIT ratio and i know this isn't the right place to ask lol, sorry
but i agree, i hope at least the lesser NM's can be melee'd down now without uber geo's lol
Someone more knowledgeable should check me on this but I believe it was 2:1 VIT:DEF so 2 VIT gives 1 Defense.
I think this is what they are changing to make us more tough against those NMs with F**K YOU AoEs
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Besides, how can we know if Monk sucks if no one plays it!
Rooj said: »
No job in the game sucks. If anyone tells you otherwise, they either suck themselves, or only play overpowered jobs.
I agree with this, as I have seen PUP as the only WHM in party successfully do its job with zero issues. Even DRG is good; they're sc engines if built correctly.
I may not PLAY some jobs, but yeah, they don't suck at all.
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PUP would be pretty bad too, if it were not for the tanking aspect/OD. But, it isn't a problem with the jobs, it is an issue with H2H damage
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A job sucking is generally the reason why nobody plays it.
Murisia said: »
that is very true as well, a melee party is headache on a whm, even seasoned ones can get overwhelmed when healing everyone
It sucks to have to remove the enfeebles, but you can deal with that. It sucks even more when they're immediately reapplied lol.
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i've seen jobs not do well in some content, but well in others, but i have to agree, right now my mnk is also feeling no love :(
on another note: who wants to help me get this Trishula thingie :P lol, i have a sch or blm ready at disposal, or i can come cor lol
on another note: who wants to help me get this Trishula thingie :P lol, i have a sch or blm ready at disposal, or i can come cor lol
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Phoenix.Brixy said: »
A job sucking is generally the reason why nobody plays it.
But no one already didn't play it, that's the problem!
Murisia said: »
that is very true as well, a melee party is headache on a whm, even seasoned ones can get overwhelmed when healing everyone
You only say that because I facetank everything ever because it's fun.
...I do sympathize because I've had to WHM on more than one occasion, even when a certain someone goes DRK. -.-
Asura.Thorva said: »
Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »
The elitism in this thread makes me want to puke.
Have you ever met a returnee? Perhaps a new player, or one that hasn't quite got the hang of how things work on certain mobs. Maybe even *gasp* a more casual player... You get the idea.
You (in the general sense) were once new. You had to have help to get where you are. I doubt that you had to pay for it, so why is it that you insult those who, like you once did, need assistance?
I help people all the time, because guess what, FFXI isn't a competition. It's a PvE environment, so really, who gives a damn?
The new gear looks interesting, and I for one will be willing to help people that want it,I or help with abjurations if they can supply the pop items.
tl;dr don't be a *** to people who are like you were
Have you ever met a returnee? Perhaps a new player, or one that hasn't quite got the hang of how things work on certain mobs. Maybe even *gasp* a more casual player... You get the idea.
You (in the general sense) were once new. You had to have help to get where you are. I doubt that you had to pay for it, so why is it that you insult those who, like you once did, need assistance?
I help people all the time, because guess what, FFXI isn't a competition. It's a PvE environment, so really, who gives a damn?
The new gear looks interesting, and I for one will be willing to help people that want it,I or help with abjurations if they can supply the pop items.
tl;dr don't be a *** to people who are like you were
First off, I am not being a *** to anyone, not being an elitist at all either. So you can drop that petty ***. Secondly this account is fairly new, 5 months now. I did get help, I found 2-5 people to help me, I worked in tiers of difficulty.
I moved from reforge gear and skirmish gear to escha-zitah gear, from that to escha-ru'aun gear, from there to reisenjima gear. The very thing I am telling people to do to make it easier, but people want to piss and moan because they don't get handouts.
I gave the direction on how to progress for their gear, the fact they get ambuscade gear is a quick jump passing the skirmish gear giving them something I didn't have. Furthermore I also gave them a how-to gil making idea with gain-exp.
I never once made this a "competition," I merely stated if you aren't getting the items with as ridiculously easy as this game is right now, you aren't trying.
6 solid players can beat everything in the game. 2-3 mediocre players with low end gear can get caught up on gear in a matter of a few days. And that is taking time and having bad luck.
The fact you think I haven't met a "returnee" is comical, considering I get people in both of my ls all the time that just came back from hiatus. We just had a guy show up last night after a 2.5 year break in which I told him where to start as well as let him know to tell me if he needed help. Today I was randomly asked to help someone kill nm's I had no need for, guess what? Went and did that too. Not only that but I have helped re-gear people taking them through the progression and getting them all their escha gear/abj.
If you can not decide to help yourself and follow the same progression everyone else has followed, don't expect to magically be taken to get wins.
What I have said was not designed to make people get all wound up in their butt hurt feelings, which obviously was done because people can't just accept the fact that they aren't doing what is needed. Instead I flat out gave them the very info they needed to progress.
Drop the crying.
The help was appreciated I at least know where to start now lol
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Rooj said: »
PUP is amazing o_O;
Needs to be said again!!!
Murisia said: »
that is very true as well, a melee party is headache on a whm, even seasoned ones can get overwhelmed when healing everyone
Murisia said: »
i've seen jobs not do well in some content, but well in others, but i have to agree, right now my mnk is also feeling no love :(
on another note: who wants to help me get this Trishula thingie :P lol, i have a sch or blm ready at disposal, or i can come cor lol
on another note: who wants to help me get this Trishula thingie :P lol, i have a sch or blm ready at disposal, or i can come cor lol
I googled Trishula and got a yugioh card.
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