Random Politics & Religion #08

Welcome to politics.

I think FFXIAH is the extreme views of people clinging to their guns and video games !

For once I'm strongly on your side. The problem is that often people feel like anger is the only way to get what they want. They see that other people got their way through anger and violence at key points in history, and think they can force their cause the same way. The problem is that rage doesn't require sensible thought, and when it is so easily provoked nobody takes you seriously. You can get similar-minded people to join the chorus, but who is it going to convert? No one. You need sympathy first, and anger is very often counterproductive to that effect.

I say all this realizing I fall victim to anger too. It just helps to be cognizant enough to realize that it's not a good way to live your life.

Whoa there nelly whoa whoa

Our Founding founding fathers were only involved in 3 wars.

The first was the Revolutionary war of 1776 against a overreaching empirical government a few thousand miles away getting involved in our daily lives. We got our first congress and president after this his name was George Washington. ( look where we are now we got one in our own back yard, psst psst we need another 1776)

The 2nd war was the Barbary Wars against the North African King in Tripoli who was part of the North African islamic caliphate. They was stealing our trading ships and enslaving American Sailors and demanded Tributes be paid to sail the waters and ransomed off Sailors. This was the US's first meeting with the Islamic nations and we responded in kind to the only thing they understood which was War to bring peace to the seas in that region. Two presidents were involved Thomas Jefferson and James Madison the latter which gave us a message from the past in how to deal with radical islam.

"It is a principle incorporated into the settled policy of America, that as peace is better than war, war is better than tribute." - James Madison, letter to the Dey of Algiers, 1816

The 3rd war was the War of 1812 it lasted until 1815. It involved, you guessed it that old overreaching imperial government trying to re-conquer us. They even used Indian tribes as well. James Madison was president and one helluva good one he saved our nation with the help from my favorite president Andrew Jackson who was a general who took the fight to the Brits and Indian tribes in New Orleans and gave them one helluva *** whooping.

This was it with our founding fathers wars, they were mostly for defending our Nations Sovereignty and establishing safe trade and national recognition in the global market during that time.

All the other wars are on the hands of the Democrat and Republican parties shoulders who ARE NOT THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF OUR NATION

Police union says officers accidentally shot Miami man
USA today

So it wasn't a racist cop shooting the black guy. It was a cop who couldn't shoot straight who was trying to kill the autistic white guy who was armed with a TOY TRUCK????

A cop who just got vacation with pay I might add.

Were I Kinsey I would sue the cop, the department, and the city.

Were I the department I would strip the officer of his badge and gun and have him cleaning toilets with a toothbrush. At full pay of course.

Were I the city I would HANG John Rivera, president of the Dade County Police Benevolent Association, by his scrotum.

What a load of ***.

Are people actually going to buy this?

Well, that is going to cost the city a lot of money, take the officer's badge, and thank God he didn't actually shoot the special needs patient.

Republican people from FL, yes.

What does it have to do with politics?

From what I understand, the police unions prevent this somehow.

Many departments apparently just put dirty cops on desk work and stuff since they can't really get rid of them.

I believe I read this in an ask a cop forum or an AMA with a police officer or something, not 100% sure and could be false.

lol, wonder would happen if someone "accidently" shot a cop in the leg.

I think the safest bet for America is to introduce a mandatory pre-university, 4 term academic Law course for all citizens, specialising on civil rights and police governance. Making everyone an authority on civil rights basically, including the cops.

Or wait - BUSINESS IDEA - someone make a Jarvis-Legal Advisor app that can be DL'ed for free. When you're stopped by the cops you just turn it on and it translates Police Moron into normal English, and normal English into Police Moron.

This would be a better government if the representatives actually told the truth instead of being vague.

" hey just letting you know I'm going to raise your taxes and make your life harder than it is."

"Yo heads up I'm going to do the bidding of the banks and make sure they get away ripping you off with your home mortgage and loans".

"Hey guess what I'm going to those corporations who donated money to me pat no taxes and order the IRS to make sure YOU pay yours"

" remember on the campaign trail I said I was for education. I ment I was for allowing collages to raise their tuition fees to put you in more debt"

" remember when I won't go to war, well I'm sending your sons and daughters for the banks and corporations who donated to me sorry"

If only we had this type of Honesty we could vote them out. It's evil what's going on with the misrepresentation in Washington DC. Yes there can be Honest government.

The only way to get a honest government is if the people want it.

I know this is a multinational forum so I am asking this question to each and everyone of you. Honestly

Do you want a Honest government?

Can we get an honest government?

And by who's standards?

Edit - because right now we are living under dishonest lieing governments.

Do you value the Truth or Deceit ?

Our own Chanti everyone knows how to be honest and know how to tell the truth no matter how hard it is.

Right now around the world there is no sense of the rule of law or accountability.

Governments are suppose to approach the people for what they want to do. It's the people who give government the go ahead to do things not the other way around. This is not going on today and the people of this world seem to not notice.

In a honest government the people are the boss.

4 wars really:
1st war was the French Indian/ 7years war. One can argue about ideology, atmosphere and attitudes being starkly different with regard to the founding of America. However, that's the war that started the colonies on the path to Revolution.

I only used 1776 and 1790s and 1812 because we established our own government and first Congress ect.

The French and Indian wars was a British matter when we still was still under empirical charter as a colony

So our founding fathers were only involved in 3 wars as named The United States of America.

To further explain about Our own standards of Honesty . I'll use a example.

Every culture and every ethnicity has family. What does a family teach their children?

To be honest with one another.

Our schools teach us to be honest as well.

What happens when we are not honest? We get punished

Ok now look at all the government's of the world and all the dishonesty and lies.

Where's the accountability or punishment? It's no where to be found.

It's like there is 2 separate laws

When Honestly there should be only 1 set of laws that both the government and people share.

In no way shape or form should the people think the government is only for kings and queens.

A Public Servant services the will of the people. Not the other way around.

Do you see how *** backwards we are in the 21st century ?

We have congressmen and women and federal judges a president and a Constitutional amendment that allows congress to increase their own salaries. These are the same people writing laws restricting our constitutional rights and sending US TO JAIL AND WAR AND SEE US LOSE OUR HOMES.

When was the last time you got a pay raise that really helped you out ?

Do you want a Honest government?

Or

Do you want a Dishonest government?

I would vote Trump because this is so bang on!

Made up quote - http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/

You just cost him 1 imaginary vote.

Yes we can if we want it.

1.The first step is acknowledging you have a Dishonest government.

2.The second step is self educating yourself to make your government Honest.

3. Are you tired of being lied to ?

4.Are you tired of being used and taken advantage of ?

Dishonest governments don't get tired of lieing and taking advantage of the people.

I'm going to use the United States of America as a example.

The establishment of the Democrat and Republican political parties has done a amazing job of psychologically and physically wearing down and discouraging voting to significantly change anything.

They have achieved this by establishing Government depending programs, by relaxing on labor laws to a point where American workers are seeing 80 hour work weeks, or need two to 3 jobs just to get by. Add on top of this the constant barrage of propaganda warfare in our media that works with the establishment which distracts the American people from what's really going on in government. We are so tired and worn down that we no longer think about government because we are just trying to survive. This leads to discouragement that nothing will ever change and this leads the American people away from the ballot box further proving the point on how the establishment wins.

The establishment has this down to a science to every 2 to 4 and 6 years elections happen in the House of Representatives, the Presidency, and Senate not to forget the establishment Judges who are appointed to their seats.
They literally go unchallenged except amoung themselves and win with tens of millions of votes when in reality there is over 350 million citizens because of the above paragraph.

Yes we can have a Honest government if we honestly anwser the top 4 questions. I'll go first.

1. Yes I acknowledge I have a Dishonest government.

2. Yes I have self educated myself on how government works and how to make my government Honest.

A. I will vote every 2 to 4 and 6 years and every chance I get to do my part to win the battle against the Dishonest establishment to fill the seats to make my government Honest because I love my country. I will teach my children and my fellow citizens the same so we can keep a Honest government.

B. I feel comfortable with my ability to lead to challenge the establishment and will run for any high office where I feel I can make my government Honest. Because I love my country I will teach my children and fellow citizens to aspire the same so we can keep a Honest government.

C. I have not underestimated the Establishment Courts and Judges and I will make it my purpose to serve Jury Duty when selected. Because I understand that the Jury and Grand Jury have more authority than the Attorney General, the Judge's , Congress, the President and the Constitution and I will make my government Honest. Because I love my country I will teach my children and fellow citizens to serve Jury Duty so we can keep a Honest government.

3. Yes I am tired of being lied to.

4. Yes I am tired of being used and taken advantage of and will do my part to make my government Honest.

True, but Milo speaks from his brain. Anita speaks from emotion.

I think that is obvious.

Then again, any form of government is made up of people who are inherently dishonest in the first place. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if the government is dishonest.

Impossible to do, unless you want robots to be our supreme overlords leaders, and even then, they need to be robots built by robots (human hands cannot touch these robots).

Personally, I don't want that to happen. And neither should you.

I rather be lied to by people who I know are lying to me than to be lied to by people who assume that they are telling the truth (or their version of it). "Honest" people need to be looked at more carefully than "Dishonest" people.

Then change your life so you aren't being the one who is being used/taken advantage of. Better yet, put yourself in a position of using/taking advantage of people themselves.

Even being on the middle rung of the ladder is still better than being in the pits.

All in all, isn't wishing mass genocide and mass murder of people for your own "brand of justice" and making it very public on this website against the rules here? I know I got razzed on by certain people of limited intelligence because they misinterpreted my posts into thinking that I wanted them dead, so wouldn't LG's posts be considered even worse than that?

More trump less whatever that is above me !