BREXIT Just Happened...

I 100% agree bringing race or country of origin into it is bull ***and shouldn't be happening. These people are mostly HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and can't grasp idea that immigration is a positive when it is controlled and done right.

How many times have we been told "It's not Islam, but a small vocal minority who are spreading hate". The same thing needs to be understood about this decision. The racists will jump on it like a cat on a mouse, but that doesn't mean that the idea is a bad one, and it doesn't mean that the idea itself is racist.

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You claimed we treat immigrants like garbage. At least back up your claim. If we were so unfair on immigrants, they wouldn't be here...

Maybe I'm not understanding other people's points well enough then. As far as I can tell people aren't saying that everyone who voted to exit is racist, they're saying that the exit is bringing the racists out of the woodwork and obscuring the more legitimate reasons people voted to exit.

I talked about the group of people who are derogatory and cry that they're being bullied when others call them out on it.
You're including yourself into this group apparently, I didn't say Thorbean.

There have been countless instances shared across the internet of people being discriminated against for being of "foreign" descent, even though they're natural-born UK citizens.

Like I said, it's not everyone by far. But the exit vote has brought a lot of *** out of the woodwork and made them bold enough to publicize they're deeply-held backward views.

And it's a problem.

What's you method of approach besides automatic citizenship to enforce legal immigration ?

Gas chambers ? Large ovens ? Large group firing squads? hard labor forced starvation like the gulags of russia? Eugenics human experimentation?

No one said that. But we've posted polls in the past that show that xenophobia is infact a driving factor to many people who voted brexit.

Yes please.

The idea of controlled immigration isn't racist, if it was why would you need boarder control or a passport to travel outside of your own country?

All these people crying out for us to get rid of all immigrants and keep Britain pure are deluded. If anyone here seriously thinks they're pure British they need to research their ancestry.

...tone it down, Godwin. In the US, at least, I'm fine with standard immigration procedures and am in favor of an easier path to legalized citizenship.


You're the genius who just said you wanted to clone four billion people that agree with you. How about you tone down the rhetoric?

I'm sure nobody said otherwise.

I have no issue with the global population unlike the United Nations.

I'm just happy a nation as old as England is taking control of there nations destin.

Thank you Ramyrez for bringing the conversation back on point - I was pounding my head wondering when this became about brexit = racist.

It was I that said 2 pages ago that the Brexit has encouraged the worst of society to come out and spit out their venom.

That suddenly was responded to by a "don't like the UK f u, f ur europe! rawr. Its not racist to want to keep our borders protected"

Here's the thing about immigration:

The immigrants -- by and large -- are not the problem. Yes there's a handful of bad eggs. But generally no greater proportion than the bad eggs that are natural-born.

The problem with immigration is the cause of the migration. Why are these people leaving where they're from in the first place?

Because it's shitty.

But when we offer foreign aid or try to help these countries sort their problems out, the same people who cry about immigrants cry about their tax dollars aiding foreign governments.

Not understanding that, at least in some capacity, this is part of fixing the immigration problem.

Now, in the case of the U.S., unfucking the whole "war on drugs" would also go a long way to correcting our immigration issues because a lot of the countries people are fleeing from are being ravaged by war and corruption involving the drug trade.

It isn't racist to keep boarders protected.

Sorry, submitted before I meant to there:


In the case of the UK/EU in general, well.

There's a lot of cultures, languages, religions, and regimes at play. No one said peace was easy. Only a worthy goal that justifies the hard work it takes.

Who is saying that it is!?

I despise using the phrase "strawman" but this really seems like one. People keep coming back to this when no one is saying "leave all your borders open and unchecked!"

Who said it was?!! Which side of this argument came out and said "Brexit and border control is racist"?

We are saying

- one of goals of the EU was to have open movement across borders for member states.

-Brexit has been followed by a rise in racism in UK

You are saying "controlling borders isn't racist"

There's no logical sequence there.

Ok, but this isn't necessarily the immigration they are talking about.

85,000* British nationals leave the UK every year to live, work, and study within EU countries. It is estimated that 185,000 EU immigrants enter the UK every year to live, work, and study.

Numbers are all estimates

How are your borders unprotected atm? Genuinely curious...

Just to add to that point on an international level, there are 5 million British citizens working and living abroad, outside the UK.

These are professionals, and does not include students.

They, the professionals, are overwhelmingly University Graduates.

Its offical. England gets nothing the Brexiteers promissed.

My responses have been in regard to this:

When there was nothing racist at all about what was quoted. Then when I made that point I was met with:


That's the problem.




It's far from countless in comparison to the millions who voted out. What you have is a vocal minority on the leave side who think the 52% are behind them causing problems. Then there is the vocal minority on the remain side who foam at the mouth at every turn in an effort to change the decision. Both groups are very small in comparison to the vast majority who are just getting on with it as usual. Lets not forget the UK is one of, if not the, most ethnically diverse countrys in the world. If we were such a racist nation, we would have had a lot more hate crimes over the last 20-30 years.

There is a clip of a 16-18 year old telling an Immigrant guy to get off the bus. Everyone else shouted the biggot down and had him thrown off instead. The foreign guy made the point that he had been here for longer than the kid had been on the planet. That's how we deal with the problem, it's really not hard to solve, but it's a job for the public and the media to make positive examples rather than just showing the negative. It won't take long until the scum are back under their rocks. That story hasn't been as public because it's not negative enough for the media.

Once again I did not say that to you, you're deciding you're one of those people. Ffs, listen.

Here's the thing, the main focus of the leave campaign was immigration and the NHS.

To most leave voters these 2 things were one and the same. The NHS is on it's knees and uncontrolled immigration from the EU was the reason.

This isn't my personal view, this is the view of a majority of Brexit voters.

I preferred it the way it was, seems to me that most Brits don't realise that this free movement within the EU works both ways.

Looks like Vodafone is considering moving their headquarters out of England...

If I am going to be perfectly honest, I think the British Government could have managed a reversal but France and Germany came out in full force making moves towards a "superstate" and making it painful or near impossible for the British Government to reverse the situation.

Britain decided Brexit was the way, but be sure the EU made damn sure it was final.

I don't think either side behaved wisely. But I'm going to put more fault on the Germans and French leaders.

I will also say that Cameron is a fine statesman and I have enjoyed his presence on the international stage. He is a rare breed in today's international politics. But then again its best that he leaves now. The next prime minister is going to have to deal with either Trump or Hilary.

It's against EU law to ask if an EU immigrant has a criminal record when entering the UK.
We also can't remove convicted terrorists from the country if there is a chance they may be badly treated when returned to their country. We have a number of terrorists here who we can't deport by law and it costs us tens of millions of pounds a year to keep them under surveillance.