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Random Politics & Religion #06
 Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-14 01:02:47
What is it exactly that gay people should be taking responsibility for?
AIDS? Wasn't aware AIDS was exclusive to gay people.
I was half-joking, but the lifestyle really does contribute more to the spread. He asked the question, so I gave an answer. /shrug. I would say the lifestyle of cheating on your significant other and then having unprotected sex with both (or more) partners helped really contribute the spread of AIDS in the 80's 90's.
Now we have senior citizens spreading sexually transmitted diseases because they don't understand protection and have access to drugs which allow sexual activities to continue to an advanced age compared to previous generations.
Lack or education and understanding seems to be the biggest spread of disease.
You're not wrong, but it seems like a lot of deflection away from facts and another case of people not being able to say I'm wrong but want to spin it anyway so that it's more feel-good.
Homosexual relationships can have certain consequences that affect society more negatively than heterosexual relationships and vise versa. It's called reality.
Siren.Akson
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 01:06:38
1/5 gay men in the US has Aids...
That's extremely high rate, No? So being a gay man in the US is more dangerous to your health than running into a Jihadist Arab
 Bahamut.Kara
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-06-14 01:07:15
The only life-style that contributes is having sex without proper protection. That isn't exclusive to gay people. So, literally exactly what I said. I just put thus convo back together and....
Quote: Differences in sexual behaviours do not fully explain why the US HIV epidemic affects gay men so much more than straight men and women, claims research in the journal Sexually Transmitted Infections.
In 2005, over half of new HIV infections diagnosed in the US were among gay men, and up to one in five gay men living in cities is thought to be HIV positive. Yet two large population surveys showed that most gay men had similar numbers of unprotected sexual partners per year as straight men and women. That's the opposite of what you said I'll try to find a paper in a moment but it was discovered in the 90's at some point that sodomy (especially being the bottom) led to a greater chance of catching different types sexually transmitted diseases. Greater liklihood of causing tears in a persons body which fluid can then seep into.
Women also have a higher probability of being infected compared to nen from vaginal intercourse.
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By Jassik 2016-06-14 01:07:28
Calm down.and take a few deep breaths Jassik I'm not advocating stoning or killing anyone. I do not follow the label of majority or minority groups.
If you want to talk about the population between straight people and homosexuals you will see how small the population is. I still stand by homosexuality as being a Mental Disorder.
My reasoning for this is because ALL ethnicities have a small part who are homosexual. How they got this way could be from incest which has been practiced in all regions of the world throughout history and which is why it's ILLEGAL in most civilized nations.
Do I hate them ? No
Do i want to help them recondition back into society? Absolutely.
Now it's a mental disorder resultant from incest... just stop posting.
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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-14 01:09:45
1/5 gay men in the US has Aids...
That's extremely high rate, No? So being a gay man in the US is more dangerous to your health than running into a Jihadist Arab
Eh, that needs clarification:
"One in five gay/bisexual men in the 21 U.S. cities hardest hit by AIDS have HIV infections -- and nearly half don't know it, a CDC survey finds."
Siren.Akson
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 01:14:21
Calm down.and take a few deep breaths Jassik I'm not advocating stoning or killing anyone. I do not follow the label of majority or minority groups.
If you want to talk about the population between straight people and homosexuals you will see how small the population is. I still stand by homosexuality as being a Mental Disorder.
My reasoning for this is because ALL ethnicities have a small part who are homosexual. How they got this way could be from incest which has been practiced in all regions of the world throughout history and which is why it's ILLEGAL in most civilized nations.
Do I hate them ? No
Do i want to help them recondition back into society? Absolutely.
Now it's a mental disorder resultant from incest... just stop posting. I said it was a personal preference of choice. Ya'll wont accept that idea. Saevel put it together alot more scientifically. Rejected again.
If yall insist that it's a genetic one is born with and not thier own personal choice then Im agreeing with that "gene" being a "mental disorder". Makes more sense.
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Siren.Akson
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 01:15:40
1/5 gay men in the US has Aids...
That's extremely high rate, No? So being a gay man in the US is more dangerous to your health than running into a Jihadist Arab
Eh, that needs clarification:
"One in five gay/bisexual men in the 21 U.S. cities hardest hit by AIDS have HIV infections -- and nearly half don't know it, a CDC survey finds." tldr. My fault but still
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-14 01:16:54
I said it could be related to incest as the practice of that does cause Mental Disorders and homosexuality has been a Mental Disorder for thousands of years until the 1970s. Hmmmm I wonder what changed?
Could it possibly be special interest groups funneling money to Public officials and scientists to change the classification of something like this? You certainly can not rule that out.
By Jassik 2016-06-14 01:16:56
Calm down.and take a few deep breaths Jassik I'm not advocating stoning or killing anyone. I do not follow the label of majority or minority groups.
If you want to talk about the population between straight people and homosexuals you will see how small the population is. I still stand by homosexuality as being a Mental Disorder.
My reasoning for this is because ALL ethnicities have a small part who are homosexual. How they got this way could be from incest which has been practiced in all regions of the world throughout history and which is why it's ILLEGAL in most civilized nations.
Do I hate them ? No
Do i want to help them recondition back into society? Absolutely.
Now it's a mental disorder resultant from incest... just stop posting. I said it was a personal preference of choice. Ya'll wont accept that idea. Saevel put it together alot more scientifically. Rejected again.
If yall insist that it's a genetic one is born with and not thier own personal choice then Im agreeing with that "gene" being a "mental disorder". Makes more sense.
Are blue eyes a mental disorder?
You just don't get it. The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it.
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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-14 01:19:13
The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay
I still take issue with the "nobody" part. There certainly are some gays out there who insist that it was a choice, though admittedly it's a slim minority.
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Siren.Akson
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 01:19:39
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
By Jassik 2016-06-14 01:20:46
I said it could be related to incest as the practice of that does cause Mental Disorders and homosexuality has been a Mental Disorder for thousands of years until the 1970s. Hmmmm I wonder what changed?
Could it possibly be special interest groups funneling money to Public officials and scientists to change the classification of something like this? You certainly can not rule that out.
1. You're completely overstating the risk of defects associated with incest. It takes many generations of very close inbreeding to result in high rates of birth defects.
2. Homosexuality was never a mental disorder, and it wasn't even particularly taboo until the rise of christianity.
3. For every dollar funneled toward equality, 20 have been spent by religious interest groups to oppose it.
You're just wrong, it's not even a matter of opinion.
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By Jassik 2016-06-14 01:21:42
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
I'm happily married to a woman, but what if I was gay?
Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-14 01:22:28
The only life-style that contributes is having sex without proper protection. That isn't exclusive to gay people. So, literally exactly what I said. I just put thus convo back together and....
Quote: Differences in sexual behaviours do not fully explain why the US HIV epidemic affects gay men so much more than straight men and women, claims research in the journal Sexually Transmitted Infections.
In 2005, over half of new HIV infections diagnosed in the US were among gay men, and up to one in five gay men living in cities is thought to be HIV positive. Yet two large population surveys showed that most gay men had similar numbers of unprotected sexual partners per year as straight men and women. That's the opposite of what you said Nope. That article specifies it's unprotected anal sex.
So...
The only life-style that contributes is having sex without proper protection. That isn't exclusive to gay people. Is absolutely accurate.
Siren.Akson
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 01:24:48
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
I'm happily married to a woman, but what if I was gay? Your opinions would carry more weight.
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Siren.Akson
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 01:28:47
Probly none of us are gay. Which is extremely funny. A bunch of straight ppl trying to dissect LGBT behaviour.
By Jassik 2016-06-14 01:29:06
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
I'm happily married to a woman, but what if I was gay? Your opinions would carry more weight.
I don't remember ever choosing to be straight just like I never chose to be tall.
Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-14 01:29:54
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
I'm happily married to a woman, but what if I was gay? Your opinions would carry more weight. As if yours carries any at all?
By Jassik 2016-06-14 01:30:06
Probly none of us are gay. Which is extremely funny. A bunch of straight ppl trying to dissect LGBT behaviour.
Several active posters here are openly homosexual.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-06-14 01:31:57
Your opinions would carry more weight. Your opinions on this matter carries no weight whatsoever because it's not a matter of opinion.
Siren.Akson
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 01:32:29
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
I'm happily married to a woman, but what if I was gay? Your opinions would carry more weight.
I don't remember ever choosing to be straight just like I never chose to be tall. Apparently you chose not to get into Gay Porn or consider men as sexual objects?
Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-14 01:33:48
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
I'm happily married to a woman, but what if I was gay? Your opinions would carry more weight.
I don't remember ever choosing to be straight just like I never chose to be tall. Apparently you chose not to get into Gay Porn or consider men as sexual objects? Do you make a habit of forcing yourself to enjoy stuff you don't find appealing already? I sure as *** don't.
Bahamut.Milamber
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2016-06-14 01:35:18
Calm down.and take a few deep breaths Jassik I'm not advocating stoning or killing anyone. I do not follow the label of majority or minority groups.
If you want to talk about the population between straight people and homosexuals you will see how small the population is. I still stand by homosexuality as being a Mental Disorder.
My reasoning for this is because ALL ethnicities have a small part who are homosexual. How they got this way could be from incest which has been practiced in all regions of the world throughout history and which is why it's ILLEGAL in most civilized nations.
Do I hate them ? No
Do i want to help them recondition back into society? Absolutely.
Now it's a mental disorder resultant from incest... just stop posting. I said it was a personal preference of choice. Ya'll wont accept that idea. Saevel put it together alot more scientifically. Point of order: no, he did not.
Siren.Akson
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 01:35:25
Your opinions would carry more weight. Your opinions on this matter carries no weight whatsoever because it's not a matter of opinion. Yeah it's a "Fact" ppl are born gay. Then they turn staight and that whole theory turns to ***
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-06-14 01:35:55
Apparently you chose not to get into Gay Porn He was probably getting by on his day job
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By Jassik 2016-06-14 01:36:06
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
I'm happily married to a woman, but what if I was gay? Your opinions would carry more weight.
I don't remember ever choosing to be straight just like I never chose to be tall. Apparently you chose not to get into Gay Porn or consider men as sexual objects?
Why would I? I've never painted my nails or gone sky diving either, is that supposed to mean something profound?
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By Shiva.Carrelo 2016-06-14 01:36:06
[The point is nobody CHOOSES to be gay, it's just who they are, and there's nothing wrong with it. Are you gay?
I'm happily married to a woman, but what if I was gay? Your opinions would carry more weight. I'm gay and have been telling you the same things he has bruh.
Probly none of us are gay. Which is extremely funny. A bunch of straight ppl trying to dissect LGBT behaviour. :)
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By Jassik 2016-06-14 01:37:24
Apparently you chose not to get into Gay Porn He was probably getting by on his day job
Not only that, I'd never do straight porn either. I doubt anyone would want to see it anyway.
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