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Has anyone tried just using the imps for gaining TP, SA/TAing WS on the Soulflayer?
Odin.Godofgods
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Odin.Godofgods said: » Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » You'll need a decent racc set, but the Ambuscade set is a pretty solid one if you can get proper accessories. is racc the only thing id need to rly worry about in creating a quick set just for this ambu? Havnt even seen, much less been, a rng in ages. on the same note, what are rngs doing in there? Just using ranged atks only, from out side soulflyer aoe range? Bismarck.Indigla said: » Has anyone tried just using the imps for gaining TP, SA/TAing WS on the Soulflayer? The Flayer took no damage when I used CDC on it while the imps were alive. SMN makes VD intense trivial unless your tank sucks. Main NM takes loads of damage. Just have to get rid of the shields with voltstrike.
Quetzalcoatl.Urat
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I capable tank is the core of this run. A combo of Tank+Healer+Geo + 3 Smn or Rng is good for this.
Bismarck.Cloudstrafie
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How do you deal with Adds on this? they seem to have alot of eva,Do you need to kill the adds,I seen the vids but i dont see how they have delt with the imps
Bismarck.Cloudstrafie said: » How do you deal with Adds on this? they seem to have alot of eva,Do you need to kill the adds,I seen the vids but i dont see how they have delt with the imps If you look at the video Ruaumoko posted it starts at 23:00. Meaning they took 7min to buff and kill the imps. I don't know if there's specifically a mechanic behind it, I'm guessing so though, but they kill the imps. In my runs last night we just killed them one at a time. Anyone try this with a COR(s) swapped in for RNG(s)? Trying to figure out my spot in this months fight. Got Master Aeonic COR vs my 20 JP Both None AG'd Relics/Aeonic Gun RNG. My sets aren't looking to bad on RNG thankfully because of keeping up with COR and still gathering some RNG stuff on the side but I think overall I could bring more DPS to the table with COR atm if its viable in this fight.
I've never been in a party where I wouldn't want COR buffs, so that alone would qualify it, in my opinion.
Asura.Chiaia said: » Anyone try this with a COR(s) swapped in for RNG(s)? Trying to figure out my spot in this months fight. Got Master Aeonic COR vs my 20 JP Both None AG'd Relics/Aeonic Gun RNG. My sets aren't looking to bad on RNG thankfully because of keeping up with COR and still gathering some RNG stuff on the side but I think overall I could bring more DPS to the table with COR atm if its viable in this fight. Did it last night with COR+RNG+SMN as DD, went fine. My ranger decimated the COR in damage but that's usually par for the course when I'm with that guys COR. Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Asura.Chiaia said: » Anyone try this with a COR(s) swapped in for RNG(s)? Trying to figure out my spot in this months fight. Got Master Aeonic COR vs my 20 JP Both None AG'd Relics/Aeonic Gun RNG. My sets aren't looking to bad on RNG thankfully because of keeping up with COR and still gathering some RNG stuff on the side but I think overall I could bring more DPS to the table with COR atm if its viable in this fight. Did it last night with COR+RNG+SMN as DD, went fine. My ranger decimated the COR in damage but that's usually par for the course when I'm with that guys COR. Man... #feelsbad Good COR can do great damage. Also Voltstrike < > Last Stand is Light so go abuse that on the Imps. Main NM has no notable defense and not especially high evasion even on VD.
Bismarck.Cloudstrafie
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Are Ani RNG required for this fight,Tried it with my group started hitting for 0,Whats the mechanic behinnd the damage
Doing damage is NOT your problem in the Soulflyer fight AT ALL - if you got some sound gear. You don't need Aeonic, Ani or anything special. What however IS your problem are 3 things:
1) Your tank can't be a potato. He needs to keep the Imps on him so they don't go Amnesia the backlike and chase the WHM around etc. On VD their AoE also does around 500 damage on top. 2) Your WHM or someone /DNC needs to get rid of the BIO on the PLD immediatly when applied. It does 1000 damage per tick on VD. 3) The Soulflyer shield which will make every normal DD usually do 0 damage. Noone really figured out the details of this gimick yet. People however figured out you can basically delete the Shield with Ramuh Voltstrike of a good SMN. Bismarck.Cloudstrafie
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: » Doing damage is NOT your problem in the Soulflyer fight AT ALL - if you got some sound gear. You don't need Aeonic, Ani or anything special. What however IS your problem are 3 things: 1) Your tank can't be a potato. He needs to keep the Imps on him so they don't go Amnesia the backlike and chase the WHM around etc. On VD their AoE also does around 500 damage on top. 2) Your WHM or someone /DNC needs to get rid of the BIO on the PLD immediatly when applied. It does 1000 damage per tick on VD. 3) The Soulflyer shield which will make every normal DD usually do 0 damage. Noone really figured out the details of this gimick yet. People however figured out you can basically delete the Shield with Ramuh Voltstrike of a good SMN. No clue tbh. We melted it with PLD SMN COR COR GEO WHM 2x on VD this afternoon without anything like that.
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: » No clue tbh. We melted it with PLD SMN COR COR GEO WHM 2x on VD this afternoon without anything like that. Bahamut.Tychefm said: » 3) The Soulflyer shield which will make every normal DD usually do 0 damage. Noone really figured out the details of this gimick yet. People however figured out you can basically delete the Shield with Ramuh Voltstrike of a good SMN. At this point I think the Shield is just Crit Damage, I never bothered to see if I could melee it after breaking a shield :/ I just ran in CDC...and ran out till TP regain got me to 1k again lol... Odin.Godofgods
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Did it last night with COR+RNG+SMN as DD, went fine. My ranger decimated the COR in damage but that's usually par for the course when I'm with that guys COR. what do you do in this fight as a ranger? (Feels like a stupid question, but its honestly been that long since i seen a rng, and i never rly played it) Just using Ranged atks to avoid aoe's? Odin.Godofgods said: » Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Did it last night with COR+RNG+SMN as DD, went fine. My ranger decimated the COR in damage but that's usually par for the course when I'm with that guys COR. what do you do in this fight as a ranger? (Feels like a stupid question, but its honestly been that long since i seen a rng, and i never rly played it) Just using Ranged atks to avoid aoe's? Just ranged attacks and last stand (I don't have relic). Quote: What Weapons skills did the cors use by chance? Just Last Stands chaining with Ramuh when possible. SC damage is good in general. Sylph.Oraen said: » I've never been in a party where I wouldn't want COR buffs, so that alone would qualify it, in my opinion. Thank you all for the good info. I'm the same way. Gear for every single situation on COR. I just mean that you can roll and shoot. No, you won't match the damage of a RNG, but another RNG will provide less overall damage than you and your rolls bring.
Asura.Theenabler
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Ran without a SMN today. Our COR had 1305 racc and only managed to land 4% of hits on imps(Not doing 0 damage, just completely whiffing). Tried with BST and ranged PUP, don't have an exact report but they were 1300+ pet acc and hitting fine. Also tried with a melee BLU, 1285 acc at 56%. I don't know if it's strictly a pet thing, but I find it strange the COR specifically couldn't land hits.
Asura.Theenabler said: » Ran without a SMN today. Our COR had 1305 racc and only managed to land 4% of hits on imps(Not doing 0 damage, just completely whiffing). Tried with BST and ranged PUP, don't have an exact report but they were 1300+ pet acc and hitting fine. Also tried with a melee BLU, 1285 acc at 56%. I don't know if it's strictly a pet thing, but I find it strange the COR specifically couldn't land hits. Does the 20% min hit rate not apply to ranged attacks? With my DD pld set, at 1385 acc I was hitting 80% with enlight I was nearly capped accuracy.
Asura.Theenabler said: » Ran without a SMN today. Our COR had 1305 racc and only managed to land 4% of hits on imps(Not doing 0 damage, just completely whiffing). Tried with BST and ranged PUP, don't have an exact report but they were 1300+ pet acc and hitting fine. Also tried with a melee BLU, 1285 acc at 56%. I don't know if it's strictly a pet thing, but I find it strange the COR specifically couldn't land hits. Asura.Ivlilla said: » Does the 20% min hit rate not apply to ranged attacks? Asura.Theenabler
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Nope he wasn't weak at all. Sample size was around 50 shots if I remember right. We kept trying until the AOE dispel went off.
Asura.Theenabler said: » Nope he wasn't weak at all. Sample size was around 50 shots if I remember right. We kept trying until the AOE dispel went off. Asura.Theenabler
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I'll have to check with him tomorrow to make sure it's not a gearswap error. Just found it odd we ran into these problems when we didn't bring a smn along.
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