The Neverending Vagary Story

I just transfered to asura, and i still need the clears. I thought we might see how many stil need it and then perhaps shout for the rest.

SCs aren't really needed to clear the fights, though they can speed things up. Incidentally, most seasoned Vagary runners would agree that the 5 bosses themselves aren't even the hardest parts of the clears. Worst parts of these zones are:

- Brash Gate's randomness with waves, which can turn a fully prepared run into a loss. Even worse if you're relying on fewer members for aoe damage to clear through waves. Strategically, a tank or otherwise hardy person can round up amorphs and spam self-hate tools to keep them off a BLU or whatever you're using for the most damage.
- Brimboil (Brash Gate), who can cause mayhem if some person decides to try something which happens to trigger his split. I'm fond of using Frailty and just having melees auto attack him down, but I'm sure there's a much smarter way to handle it.
- The 3rd wave of Deathborne Gate, as these fomors are fond of skillchaining or using their 1hrs to the fullest (such as Mighty Strikes + Fell Cleave). Not as bad with a larger group, as you can manage them better, but remind people to be defensive around them (maintain buffs, don't assume that one person can aoe them down without support or serious effort, etc).

I'd like to think a lot of people here can provide some advice for setups and strategies, if you should need tips. Aside from the fact that Perfidien and Plouton require magic damage to kill (due to like, 99% PDT at points), you can realistically form a crew featuring anyone as long as nobody sabotages the run.

The key to clear 3rd wave safely is one at a time. Have the tank pull one group of mob only and only fight one group at a time, don't fight in the middle otherwise you'll have to deal with multiple group of mobs. Have every BLM(assuming you're bringing BLM to DD that is) /assist one person and kill mobs one at a time. Tank can keep hate on all mobs by using self hate tools such as foil.

Maybe you can AoE everything on 3rd wave if your group is very well geared or organized, but for a group trying to clear, I highly doubt it.

I've seen Brimboil split a couple of times, but they're pretty harmless even if they split from my experience, so there isn't much to worry about.

So people are doing these? I do play on Asura and I'm desperate to get these done!!!

If anyone EVER EVER does these (especially Feet and EVEN MORE SO Head), please contact me!
I'm on Asura and a Geomancer! You could always use me, right? RIGHT?!

Super easy way is to do a planned split. The way it works is that if you do over 3000 certain amount of damage, his next TP move will be a split. The amount of damage over doesn't effect the split, so 4000 from a single nuke is treated the same as three MB's for 50~90K. The adds have very low HP and can be one shoted by a BLM or just AoE'd by a decent BLU. Just make a SC and everyone MB off it for big damage, then anticipate his split and just nuke the adds down real quick. Rinse and repeat, dies so ridiculously fast.

Hmm I'll consider that. I run Brash Gate the least because everyone hates it and the Effluviums aren't as useful as the Macuil Horns, Defiant Sweats, or Dark Matter, and so I usually end up with bringing a large group of whoever is around and needs clear. I have seen those adds run off onto the mages right away and do Fluid Spreads and/or Meteor, which only happens when there's an unplanned split.

Yeah if it happens and your not prepared then it gets messy fast. If your tank is /BLU then immediately after split they can do sheep song / geist wall to hold them long enough for the mages to finish them. It's when he suddenly splits and someone is /heal or in midcast that they go flying after someone.

I mostly care about Deathborne Gate, because "Head" is so important to me, but Feet at Brash Gate come second.

Gosh, with how much people want to do this, wouldn't it just be smart to organize a big event, plan it for the weekend, at some time where it'd work for everyone (I'm from Europe, so that's something to consider). Maybe every now and then make shouts about it in cities, to get more people interested, and maybe it'd actually come to fruition.

Sorry, just really desperate for this!

You of all people know too well that I lack a real one... apologies for that.

Vagary, Yes, please.! PLD,THF or DRG I dont mind going as any job :P

Ok then, I say we give it a try

Saturday - 16.1.2016 - Head - Deathborne Gate - 11 AM (PST) // 7 PM (GMT) // 4 AM JPN (Sunday)
Sunday - 17.1.2016 - Feet - Brash Gate - 11:45 AM (PST) // 7:45 PM (GMT) // 4:45 AM JPN (Monday)

While I've set this time, I am pretty sure we won't have 18 people right off the bat, so I do think we'll spend a lot of time shouting in the city collecting more people, but I think that with a lot of people collected already at the start, it'll be easier to tempt others into joining!

THE TEAM SO FAR:
Farelthegecko - GEO
Yeno7 - PLD, THF or DRG
Xijaah - GEO
Ardalus - WHM BRD COR RNG THF WAR (SCH)
Luminohelix - WHM, GEO, COR, BLU
Ryujinjakka -COR, BST, RNG, SAM, THF
Masterbrianlee - THF
Biet - SCH

I'm in!
Edit: will come geo

I'm in. I got WHM BRD COR RNG THF WAR and soon to be SCH

The good thing about Vagary is that it doesn't matter if you take 3 or 18; the content and difficulty is identical.

Blue Mages are excellent in Vagary; especially the Slime and Fomor zones. Subduction's gravity effect is potent enough that you can use it to gather a group while your BLM nuke them down. BSTs can also do well, but keep your ready moves to yourself against Brimboil unless you like seeing a lot of clones.

To pop Perfidien and Plouton, the.jobs I've seen used are SAM, SCH, or DNC. The DNC method requires that a PLD or THF assist with the final WS, but SAM and SCH can easily 4/6 step solo. GKT I've seen used are Koga (mythic), Norifusa (UNM), Soboro (some mob in Riverne), Tsurumaru (shark delve), or the one from Reisenjima. Mainly you just need reliable haste and COR rolls.

Ask marila

I'm fond of using RUN and BLU for Perf/Plouton; Herculean Slash and Burning Blade can perform the 6-step SC on those Fire Elementals without any concern for dealing too much damage (even with 119 weapons). Having two people SC is much more reliable and doesn't require any COR rolls.

That's a pretty good idea, and would require less specialization for lowman groups.

I saw this thread pop up and I misread it as "Vagrant Story" and now I'm sad.

\end derail

But seriously good luck on your runs everyone.

I actually need an incarnation sash pretty badly, but have never done this.

I can go too, I can offer these jobs, can choose any. (Whm, Geo, Cor, Blu). I'm more than glad to come help my friend :)!

Lumino??? Wow, you're just one huge positive surprise each time you show up :D

By the way, I did add a player list above, which I will try and keep updating. Not sure at all what sort of party would be required for an event like this, but... eh, we can start more concrete planning later!

social bump!

COR BST RNG SAM THF

a few guys from my LS want to join us! so we'll probably wont spend too long /yelling

Huh?! Really?! That sounds awesome!!!!!

Ok, just an announcement, we went in today, not everybody who said so came, which is ok, we still had collected like 15 people for the Head run.

Things did not go so smoothly, but in the end, I just wanted to unlock the Head upgrade, which did work.
Later everybody wanted to still do the Feet run, and that went even better, regardless of maybe having 1 or 2 less people.

So the schedule changes, and tomorrow we do the HANDS run!
11:45 AM (PST) // 7:45 PM (GMT) // 4:45 AM JPN (Monday)

and i swear, this time i'll pass everything before we get kicked out

ouch, I came in late and.... well someone from my new LS mentioned that they're doing a Vagary run. Went ahead with it, and just one person contact me about Vagary anyway...

Sorry about this not working out so well today...