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By Bismarck.Patrik 2015-12-13 18:22:40
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I'm just throwing this out there, but common core is really blown up into something terrible that it is not. Common core does not dictate curricula, at all, it just gives a list of goals that students need to accomplish; how they accomplish these goals is mostly up to the teacher. I admit I haven't read all of the math one, but from what I have seen is that the goals encourage new and unique ways to do math beyond pure memorization. THIS is what has created all of these sometimes over-the-top math methods that people make into pictures to laugh at common core with. But the methods are made by the teachers, not common core.

For me common core has always been a sort of check-list. I usually don't even have to look at it to make sure my lesson plans cover a standard, it is honestly hard not to touch on any standard unless you have no idea what you are doing as a teacher. Then if there are standards I haven't covered I'll make a lesson just for that... honestly the standards are as vague as tarot card readings, you can make plenty of things fit each one.

On the actual law... I just hope this does SOMETHING to fix the hell that is standardized testing. Those tests take up tons of teaching time to teach students how to pass these poorly made tests instead of actually learning.
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Also, cursive is functionally useless in today's world, I wish schools would do more to improve curriculum like that.
The only function cursive loosely serves is for signatures.

Even then, by loosely its EXTREMELY loose. I pretty much just make sure the first letters of the first and last name are legible then attempt cursive scripts (Although, cursive writing is more appreciated in my visual communications courses because you make lettering look fancy and pretty).
Oh it definitely has aesthetic value, and should be optional but it has no practical purpose anymore. Hell signatures are going to be a thing of the past soon enough anyway.
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Bismarck.Patrik said: »
pure memorization
Yeah, this is emphasized way too much.
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Common Core is extremely useful for one thing and one thing only.

Another nail in the coffin of Jeb!'s campaign.
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Everyone needs to stop and understand one thing first, "Common Core" everything was designed by test makers and not by teachers, professors or math experts. The entire system is designed for kids to score high on specific tests and to force schools to purchase specialized CC teaching programs, not to actually teach them anything. The federal government is screwing it up by using "free" education money and in incentive to force schools to follow chose tests, curriculum's and guidelines. If a state chooses not to go with CC then they risk losing access to that money for other programs, which since most states are hard up for education cash is a pretty bad thing to have happen.
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Everyone needs to stop and understand one thing first, "Common Core" everything was designed by test makers and not by teachers, professors or math experts. The entire system is designed for kids to score high on specific tests and to force schools to purchase specialized CC teaching programs, not to actually teach them anything. The federal government is screwing it up by using "free" education money and in incentive to force schools to follow chose tests, curriculum's and guidelines. If a state chooses not to go with CC then they risk losing access to that money for other programs, which since most states are hard up for education prefer to spend cash on corporate welfare than education is a pretty bad thing to have happen.
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Chanti, you wouldn't know corporate welfare if it came up and slapped you in the face.

Education allocated funds from the federal government are scarce to most states. Those states usually have to take the money from their own General Fund to help pay for that state's education.

Not everyone's like Texas where they can support most of their education expenses. Some states like Pennsylvania don't have the economic resources like Texas.
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Chanti, you wouldn't know corporate welfare if it came up and slapped you in the face.

Education allocated funds from the federal government are scarce to most states. Those states usually have to take the money from their own General Fund to help pay for that state's education.

Not everyone's like Texas where they can support most of their education expenses. Some states like Pennsylvania don't have the economic resources dont take as many government contracts like Texas.
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Wait, do you honestly think that only governments create jobs?

Edit: Let me elaborate, do you honestly think that only governments move the economy or create wealth in an area (in this case, a state).

Also, you make it sound like PA doesn't receive as much government contracts or federal government revenue proportional to Texas, which is, of course, ignorant for you to assume.

Obviously you don't know anything about governmental contracts or appropriations of either the federal or state levels.
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In the WA state Constitution we have the strongest education provision in the country.

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ARTICLE IX - EDUCATION

SECTION 1 PREAMBLE.
It is the paramount duty of the state to make ample provision for the education of all children residing within its borders, without distinction or preference on account of race, color, caste, or sex.
Full text
Its that paramount word.

But yet our schools have been underfunded for YEARS because a no new taxes collation rules. And they define cutting corporate welfare as a tax.

Washington state fined $100,000 per day for education funding failure
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
corporate welfare
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
In the WA state Constitution we have the strongest education provision in the country.

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ARTICLE IX - EDUCATION

SECTION 1 PREAMBLE.
It is the paramount duty of the state to make ample provision for the education of all children residing within its borders, without distinction or preference on account of race, color, caste, or sex.
Full text
Its that paramount word.

But yet our schools have been underfunded for YEARS because a no new taxes collation rules. And they define cutting corporate welfare as a tax.

Washington state fined $100,000 per day for education funding failure
If what you quoted signifies a strong education provision, I hate to break it to you, but Texas has just as strong of an education code as Washington State

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Sec. 1.002. EQUAL EDUCATIONAL SERVICES OR OPPORTUNITIES. (a) An educational institution undertaking to provide education, services, or activities to any individual within the jurisdiction or geographical boundaries of the educational institution shall provide equal opportunities to all individuals within its jurisdiction or geographical boundaries pursuant to this code.
(b) An educational institution may not deny services to any individual eligible to participate in a school district's special education program as provided by Section 29.003, but the educational institution shall provide individuals with disabilities special educational services as authorized by law or, where expressly authorized, assist in and contribute toward the provision of appropriate special educational services in cooperation with other educational institutions and other appropriate agencies, institutions, or departments.

Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 260, Sec. 1, eff. May 30, 1995.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
In the WA state Constitution we have the strongest education provision in the country.

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ARTICLE IX - EDUCATION

SECTION 1 PREAMBLE.
It is the paramount duty of the state to make ample provision for the education of all children residing within its borders, without distinction or preference on account of race, color, caste, or sex.
Full text
Its that paramount word.

But yet our schools have been underfunded for YEARS because a no new taxes collation rules. And they define cutting corporate welfare as a tax.

Washington state fined $100,000 per day for education funding failure
If what you quoted signifies a strong education provision, I hate to break it to you, but Texas has just as strong of an education code as Washington State

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Sec. 1.002. EQUAL EDUCATIONAL SERVICES OR OPPORTUNITIES. (a) An educational institution undertaking to provide education, services, or activities to any individual within the jurisdiction or geographical boundaries of the educational institution shall provide equal opportunities to all individuals within its jurisdiction or geographical boundaries pursuant to this code.
(b) An educational institution may not deny services to any individual eligible to participate in a school district's special education program as provided by Section 29.003, but the educational institution shall provide individuals with disabilities special educational services as authorized by law or, where expressly authorized, assist in and contribute toward the provision of appropriate special educational services in cooperation with other educational institutions and other appropriate agencies, institutions, or departments.

Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 260, Sec. 1, eff. May 30, 1995.
Er, that's not even close to the same.
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Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot the feels involved. My bad.

Never mind that there is no real legal definition for paramount. There is for duty though.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
In the WA state Constitution we have the strongest education provision in the country....

Its that paramount word....
If what you quoted signifies a strong education provision, I hate to break it to you, but Texas has just as strong of an education code as Washington State

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Sec. 1.002. EQUAL EDUCATIONAL SERVICES OR OPPORTUNITIES. (a) An educational institution undertaking to provide education, services, or activities to any individual within the jurisdiction or geographical boundaries of the educational institution shall provide equal opportunities to all individuals within its jurisdiction or geographical boundaries pursuant to this code.
(b) An educational institution may not deny services to any individual eligible to participate in a school district's special education program as provided by Section 29.003, but the educational institution shall provide individuals with disabilities special educational services as authorized by law or, where expressly authorized, assist in and contribute toward the provision of appropriate special educational services in cooperation with other educational institutions and other appropriate agencies, institutions, or departments.

Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 260, Sec. 1, eff. May 30, 1995.
Wrongo!!!

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paramount

: very important : of highest rank or importance

: superior to all others : supreme <a matter of paramount importance>
Merriam Webster

In WA nothing else should come first. TX has no provision like that.
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
In the WA state Constitution we have the strongest education provision in the country....

Its that paramount word....
If what you quoted signifies a strong education provision, I hate to break it to you, but Texas has just as strong of an education code as Washington State

Quote:
Sec. 1.002. EQUAL EDUCATIONAL SERVICES OR OPPORTUNITIES. (a) An educational institution undertaking to provide education, services, or activities to any individual within the jurisdiction or geographical boundaries of the educational institution shall provide equal opportunities to all individuals within its jurisdiction or geographical boundaries pursuant to this code.
(b) An educational institution may not deny services to any individual eligible to participate in a school district's special education program as provided by Section 29.003, but the educational institution shall provide individuals with disabilities special educational services as authorized by law or, where expressly authorized, assist in and contribute toward the provision of appropriate special educational services in cooperation with other educational institutions and other appropriate agencies, institutions, or departments.

Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 260, Sec. 1, eff. May 30, 1995.
Wrongo!!!

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paramount

: very important : of highest rank or importance

: superior to all others : supreme <a matter of paramount importance>
Merriam Webster

In WA nothing else should come first. TX has no provision like that.

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot the feels involved. My bad.

Never mind that there is no real legal definition for paramount. There is for duty though.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Wait, do you honestly think that only governments create jobs?

Edit: Let me elaborate, do you honestly think that only governments move the economy or create wealth in an area (in this case, a state).

Also, you make it sound like PA doesn't receive as much government contracts or federal government revenue proportional to Texas, which is, of course, ignorant for you to assume.

Obviously you don't know anything about governmental contracts or appropriations of either the federal or state levels.
It does when your state takes the necessary steps to ensure that their economy is flooded with government funding :< You know, all those government contracts and military bases totally dont create jobs and revenue.
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Wait, do you honestly think that only governments create jobs?

Edit: Let me elaborate, do you honestly think that only governments move the economy or create wealth in an area (in this case, a state).

Also, you make it sound like PA doesn't receive as much government contracts or federal government revenue proportional to Texas, which is, of course, ignorant for you to assume.

Obviously you don't know anything about governmental contracts or appropriations of either the federal or state levels.
It does when your state takes the necessary steps to ensure that their economy is flooded with government funding :< You know, all those government contracts and military bases totally dont create jobs and revenue.
How much revenue do you think the state of Texas gets from federal contracts and military bases?

Hell, how much of the Texas economy depends on that?

Hint: Not even 10% of the Texas economy depends on the federal government and military.

Sure, it would be a blow if both were to go away, but considering that Texas doesn't depend on it to sustain itself, and actually depends more on private industry to create jobs (you know, those evil companies you liberals hate so much), I would have to say that any notion that government creates jobs anywhere close to private industry is ludicrous at best.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-12-15 14:42:25
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Wait, do you honestly think that only governments create jobs?

Edit: Let me elaborate, do you honestly think that only governments move the economy or create wealth in an area (in this case, a state).

Also, you make it sound like PA doesn't receive as much government contracts or federal government revenue proportional to Texas, which is, of course, ignorant for you to assume.

Obviously you don't know anything about governmental contracts or appropriations of either the federal or state levels.
It does when your state takes the necessary steps to ensure that their economy is flooded with government funding :< You know, all those government contracts and military bases totally dont create jobs and revenue.
How much revenue do you think the state of Texas gets from federal contracts and military bases?

Hell, how much of the Texas economy depends on that?

Hint: Not even 10% of the Texas economy depends on the federal government and military.

Sure, it would be a blow if both were to go away, but considering that Texas doesn't depend on it to sustain itself, and actually depends more on private industry to create jobs (you know, those evil companies you liberals hate so much), I would have to say that any notion that government creates jobs anywhere close to private industry is ludicrous at best.
Where/what are you basing your quote on in that report?
 
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I would have to say that any notion that government creates jobs anywhere close to private industry is ludicrous at best.

Reading comprehension is a valuable tool.
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Wait, do you honestly think that only governments create jobs?

Edit: Let me elaborate, do you honestly think that only governments move the economy or create wealth in an area (in this case, a state).

Also, you make it sound like PA doesn't receive as much government contracts or federal government revenue proportional to Texas, which is, of course, ignorant for you to assume.

Obviously you don't know anything about governmental contracts or appropriations of either the federal or state levels.
It does when your state takes the necessary steps to ensure that their economy is flooded with government funding :< You know, all those government contracts and military bases totally dont create jobs and revenue.
How much revenue do you think the state of Texas gets from federal contracts and military bases?

Hell, how much of the Texas economy depends on that?

Hint: Not even 10% of the Texas economy depends on the federal government and military.

Sure, it would be a blow if both were to go away, but considering that Texas doesn't depend on it to sustain itself, and actually depends more on private industry to create jobs (you know, those evil companies you liberals hate so much), I would have to say that any notion that government creates jobs anywhere close to private industry is ludicrous at best.
Where/what are you basing your quote on in that report?
Page 45, comparing Total Transfers Vs. Change in Net Position, All Activities.

My calculation was a little off, it's really ~11% (17,125,600,000/158,629,720,000).

Unless there's a paper out there that's published for free that shows the actual economic effect of the federal government on Texas's economy, this is the best method to determine the total effect, although it's really the effect on the federal government on the Texas government's books. I think that is a reasonable assumption that federal government plays just as much role on the state government as it does on the total economy for Texas.

If you don't agree with me, you are more than welcome to show your own analysis. I highly doubt anyone here would.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-12-15 15:26:56
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Not sure why you're contending with someone who is pro GE's buyout and outsourcing of small businesses in Texas.
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Not sure why you're contending with someone who is pro GE's buyout and outsourcing of small businesses in Texas.
You mean the same person who likes to nitpick at everything I say or provide?

Gee, I wonder why I would be a little defensive over somebody who pretty much attacks anything I write.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
My calculation was a little off, it's really ~11%

Well, that's it! I can not longer belive anything you say, ever! Blatantly lying then proving yourself wrong, I dunno how you can sleep at night!

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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Education allocated funds from the federal government are scarce to most states. Those states usually have to take the money from their own General Fund to help pay for that state's education.

Education money is just scarce in general, it's expensive running an education system when the federal government is taking the lions share of taxes and then redistributing it. States feel compelled to follow federal policy in order to shore up their budgets.

Hell that was one of the strongest arguments in Colorado and Washington for the legalization of Cannabis. They argued the tax money accrued, from something already happening, combined with the savings from a lower case load would help them pay for a better education system, and it looks like they were right.
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So marijuana is the key to education. Who would have guessed it.
 
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Gee, I wonder why I would be a little defensive over somebody who pretty much attacks anything I write.
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