There no such thing as true morality without God.
Morality in your world view is simply subjective to who holds the power.
Same subjectivity with good and evil.
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There no such thing as true morality without God.
Morality in your world view is simply subjective to who holds the power. Same subjectivity with good and evil. charlo999 said: » Lol you have the information for sure but the understanding is far far off. Eh, the same could be said of you. Acting like you have it all figured out is rather naive and indicative of pride. Christianity suffers whenever someone takes the attitude of "I'm right and you're all wrong", because there are a bajillion sects and a large number of them expect you to take their word for it that their Bible interpretation is the one that's correct. Yes, a lot of people in here flat out don't have a clue what they're talking about, but extrapolating from religious texts and trying to make arguments out of them isn't exactly helping. Offline
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Hence, why I try and stay out of the religion side of this stuff.
charlo999 said: » There no such thing as true morality without God. Morality in your world view is simply subjective to who holds the power. Same subjectivity with good and evil. Just lol charlo999 said: » There no such thing as true morality without God. Morality in your world view is simply subjective to who holds the power. Same subjectivity with good and evil. There's a reason trying to live by the literal Bible usually results in extreme xenophobia, sexism, misery, oppression and general cruel behavior from adherents and it has everything to do with the morality of the Bible being a snapshot into the age the book was written. tl;dr - There's lots of wise stuff in ancient religious documents. There's also alot of garbage that should be laughed at. You can claim to believe in teachings or that a God entity exists but to claim you know anything for sure makes me want to say "get in line" like every other priest, prophet and seer. Ramyrez said: » Quote: Quote: Yet our whole way of life comes from Christianity Quote: Quote: Nobody's forcing ya to believe in anything but that doesn't mean you should bash ppl who do. Quote: Quote: Not everyone is good. Not everyone is evil. It's impossible to judge everyone as if they're all just the same Quote: Under our Constitution you have a right to believe what you want to believe. If you want to start chipping away at our freedoms because of your fear, you are the one trying to rewrite the Constitution. That is a fact. Offline
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: » But you haven't :p Altimaomega said: » Hence, why I try and stay out of the religion side of this stuff. Your reading skills reflect your writing. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Sometimes I feel people take freedom of religion and turn it into freedom to practice their religion everywhere. Perhaps you should think about it, instead of feel about it. Quote: First Amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; Bahamut.Ravael said: » Ramyrez said: » So we can, with a basic two-step process, blame Twilight on the Mormons. Maybe I'm at risk of a thatsthejoke.jpg here, but you don't need a two-step process to blame Twilight on the Mormons. It's only one step, because Stephanie Meyer is a Mormon. Ah. Well. I never cared enough about her shitastic writing enough to look into her biography. I'll stand by it as two-step though because they had to write the big one to give her the idea. Siren.Akson said: » stuff Well., I was addressing various things and perhaps included some of your things symbolically of other things said, but in fairness I did make a disclaimer saying I had skipped a few things and apologizing preemptively if something was incorrect due to context, so... K. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Yes, but did you try? Rarely do around here. I come here so I can avoid any additional effort. Offline
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: » I fully read the "try" part before I posted. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » You act as if saying you try means something. Quote: TRY: to make an effort to do something : to attempt to accomplish or complete something Asura.Floppyseconds said: » What I mean Asura.Floppyseconds said: » I probably should have stated "practice it on everyone" instead to make it clearer. Offline
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The only way it makes sense is if you're trolling. We all know trolling is bad, M'Kay.
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Wow if you evolutionary atheists could only live by your convictions I would at least have respect for your view. But you don't and are self confessed hipocrites and liars.
charlo999 said: » Wow if you evolutionary atheists could only live by your convictions I would at least have respect for your view. But you don't and are self confessed hipocrites and liars. You read what's written on a website that most of us post on during the lulls in our workday. You have next to zero idea how we actually engage (or don't) in activities regarding our convictions. I'm not going to justify myself to you by citing the things I do or ways I spend my money, but I have a great deal of confidence that I live at least as "Christian" of a life as anyone here claiming that Christ is the way and all others are lost. I just don't believe in the dogma or supernatural elements of the religion. Something you have to remember about P&R site is that you get the distilled essence of our ideals on a handful of topics, normally wrapped in a bunch of scathing diatribes that we've all saved up and concentrated because we can't, within standard societal norms, say these things to the people we see face-to-face every day. So when you make wild accusations or damning statements, you can expect people to return them in kind. Like it or not, I'm willing to bet most people, whether or not they want to admit it, treat this place as a bit of a pressure release valve. So climb down off that cross there, chief. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » charlo999 said: » Wow if you evolutionary atheists could only live by your convictions I would at least have respect for your view. What convictions are you talking about, being an atheist is pretty much just not believing in Gods. I think it's fairly simple. We don't have to hate people who do. I still find it amusing that people think off is a channel. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » We don't have to hate people who do. We're not required to, we just enjoy doing so. Offline
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: » What saddens me the most is when these religions ***on their believers. These are good honest people, people who devote their lives to others and charity etc. And even from youth, before they can even think or defend themselves they are told they are utterly garbage without Muhammad or Jesus or Ishvara in their lives, completely diminishing everything positive they do as a human being of their own accord as another's will. I bet if the afterlife was completely removed from the equation, the majority of these people would be just as kind and charitable as they are now, of their own volition. That's how I try to live my life as well. Being kind to other people clearly does not work on the internet fonewear said: » Being kind to other people clearly does not work on the internet Pffh. Like you've ever tried. You big meanie. |
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