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By Altimaomega 2015-12-10 15:00:10
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Guess I'm the only one here who thinks no constitution should be written in stone

Looks like your right about this part at least.
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By charlo999 2015-12-10 15:01:57
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Altimaomega said: »
That's my point kinda.

No, it is not about the differences between the religions, but the differences between the people.

The Catholics/Christians don't take their religion as seriously as they did 250 years ago to literally go murder and persecute people. Entire towns were murdered though to purge witches for example. That is the same issue Islam faces really. That people and their religions are just really idiotic.

When education fully reaches the Middle East (hence why the Taliban and organizations attempt to suppress education) they will become just like
the good Christians
Americans are. You know where we just beat up gays or try to deny others equal treatment (see the recent past of Don't Ask Don't Tell, marriage, or existing adultery/sodomy laws) and things because of beliefs stemming from the Bible. Instead of actually carrying out murders instead.

So, just like Christians by and far don't kill people anymore for:
Deuteronomy:
*Not listening to priests
*Being a
false
prophet
*Women not being a virgin on their wedding night (Thats-a-stonin')
*Following other religions
*Murdering a whole town for a single person worshiping another god

Exodus
*Being a witch (or perhaps a newt)
*Striking your parents
*Working on the Sabbath

Leviticus
*Adultery
*Blasphemy (Thats-a-stonin' again!)
*Talking smack about your parents
**** dem bitchez

Romans
*Being homosexual

Zecheriah
*Being a "false" prophet, a lot of coverage on this one as you can see.

Numbers
*Following of other religions,
again,
seems like a pattern here, but that is more than enough.


Then one day too Islam will cease to have the same issues of following their religion Christianity once faced. Including the Dark Ages (pretty much the way groups like ISIS seek to bring about)

The issue is just as much Islam as a issue Christianity is to the west. Neither are religions of peace, but Christians don't do the things in those books anymore, and Muslims are still playing catch-up with that.

The attacks against the religion or Muslims are ridiculous as this point because it ignores all the other retards in the world with the same line of reasoning in their doctrines.

Wtf. So to condem Christianity you pull stuff that was law in history from the Old Testament? To the Israelites.
You'll have to show me in Romans where it tells Christians to kill homosexuals too.
Your BS aurguements fall flat on their face.
And to call the Catholics terrors on Christians is just showing how knowledgeable you are on the subject. You'll have to show me where it said to build up some Pope system and put him in charge.
You'll have to show me where it teaches to burn witches and kill false prophets.
Pro tip: they ain't true bible believing Christians. The pope has even come out and said the bible ain't real and portrays some fake jesus he has authority over.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-10 15:03:51
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charlo999 said: »
The pope has even come out and said the bible ain't real and Jesus wasn't real.
Still talking out of your wrong hole I see.

Altimaomega said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Guess I'm the only one here who thinks no constitution should be written in stone

Looks like your right about this part at least.
From the amount of people who liked Ramyrez post(which oddly includes you) it does not seem that way.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-10 15:08:12
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Ramyrez said: »
obviously ours isn't "written in stone"

You mean this?

Maybe, I misinterpreted your obvious trolling. But I doubt it.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-10 15:09:04
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Uh?

What trolling lol I was having a serious discussion.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-10 15:13:08
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Why say something like that when, if you pay even the slightest bit of attention you know full well The Constitution is not written in stone.

Then, that brings into question. If you didn't know that.. Why are you even in the P&R forum section.
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-10 15:13:20
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Guess I'm the only one here who thinks no constitution should be written in stone(which I also think is a bad metaphor anyway cause you can actually alter something written in stone too...but anyway!)
Yet the entire thing isn't written in stone, but certain parts of it are about enumerating natural rights to ensure they are protected, and they shouldn't be changed.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-12-10 15:15:43
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Ramyrez said: »
So we can, with a basic two-step process, blame Twilight on the Mormons.

Maybe I'm at risk of a thatsthejoke.jpg here, but you don't need a two-step process to blame Twilight on the Mormons. It's only one step, because Stephanie Meyer is a Mormon.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-10 15:16:10
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Altimaomega said: »
Why say something like that when, if you pay even the slightest bit of attention you know full well The Constitution is not written in stone.
It's in response to people arguing with each other that someone wants to change it, as it's a condemnable sin.

There should be no law of gods, only law of men. And men change, so laws should too with them. It's a generic statement and maybe a suggestion that people should say what shouldn't be changed rather than saying "but it's the constitution".

It wasn't about USA, but rather about the arguments people present to make their cases.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-10 15:21:35
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ramyrez said: »
So we can, with a basic two-step process, blame Twilight on the Mormons.

Maybe I'm at risk of a thatsthejoke.jpg here, but you don't need a two-step process to blame Twilight on the Mormons. It's only one step, because Stephanie Meyer is a Mormon.
thatsthejoke.jpg
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-10 15:22:09
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
It's in response to people arguing with each other that someone wants to change it, as it's a condemnable sin.
Who's making that argument?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-10 15:24:50
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More than one person has done it in the history of this section alone. Ramyrez was last only page ago, but certainly not first. I'm most definetely not going to look for quotes in random pr, but there's no reason to deny they've happened repeatedly.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-10 15:28:20
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
More than one person has done it in the history of this section alone. Ramyrez was last only page ago, but certainly not first. I'm most definetely not going to look for quotes in random pr, but there's no reason to deny they've happened repeatedly.
I don't think Ramy is making a claim that, to change the Constitution, it's a condemnable sin.

I think he actually says that to some people it is, but I have not seen anyone actually make that point here.

The Constitution changed already. We all know it, and we know it could change at any time again. My money is, if it's to be changed again within the next year, on the 22nd Amendment being repealed somehow by executive action.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-10 15:29:41
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And again, since not everyone seem to catch that, I wasn't addressing the american one specifically. But in general that people should never consider theirs something that you can never do anything about.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-12-10 15:34:06
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ramyrez said: »
So we can, with a basic two-step process, blame Twilight on the Mormons.
Maybe I'm at risk of a thatsthejoke.jpg here, but you don't need a two-step process to blame Twilight on the Mormons. It's only one step, because Stephanie Meyer is a Mormon.
thatsthejoke.jpg

I guess I was reading that from too many angles. Keep the jokes simple, I'm tired!
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By charlo999 2015-12-10 15:40:03
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For those banging on about witch hunts and trying to tie it to Catholics only. It was used in just about every Kingdom in the world.

witch hunt history

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The Twelve Tables of Roman law had provisions against evil incantations and spells intended to damage cereal crops. In 331 BC, 170 women were executed as witches in the context of an epidemic illness. Livy emphasizes that this was a scale of persecution without precedent in Rome. In 184 BC, about 2,000 people were executed for witchcraft (veneficium), and in 182–180 BC another 3,000 executions took place, again triggered by the outbreak of an epidemic. There is no way to verify the figures reported by Roman historians, but if they are taken at face value,[citation needed] the scale of the witch-hunts in the Roman Republic in relation to the population of Italy at the time far exceeded anything that took place during the "classical" witch-craze in Early Modern Europe.[citation needed] Persecution of witches continued in the Roman Empire until the late 4th century AD and abated only after the introduction of Christianity as the Roman state religion in the 390s.[9]
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
And again, since not everyone seem to catch that, I wasn't addressing the american one specifically. But in general that people should never consider theirs something that you can never do anything about.
Since we were talking about the 2nd Amendment being gun rights, and that no other Constitution in the world has a 2nd Amendment being gun rights, it goes to show that we were talking about the American Constitution, especially when you made your little statement last page.

Keep with the program, man! Or at least make yourself clearer next time.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-10 15:47:26
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charlo999 said: »
For those banging on about witch hunts and trying to tie it to Catholics only. It was used in just about every Kingdom in the world.
Who was?

Was it Ravael?
Pleebo?

I know Sparth loves his witch hunts and all, but I don't see him mentioning it.

Fonewear only care about the witch hunts shown on the Simpsons, and he hasn't posted a Simpson's clip yet, so it couldn't be him.

Seha is trying to deflect from her constitution embarrassment, so I doubt it was her.

Kojo doesn't give a damn.

Rooks already is on his current witch hunt, so he can't be bothered to address it here.

Altima doesn't give a *** about witches, and Nausi doesn't give a *** about hunting, so it's not them.

Wait....could it be....me?

/grabs a pitchfork
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Since we were talking about the 2nd Amendment being gun rights, and that no other Constitution in the world has a 2nd Amendment being gun rights, it goes to show that we were talking about the American Constitution, especially when you made your little statement last page.

Keep with the program, man! Or at least make yourself clearer next time.
Sure you were, but I wasn't.


This is the relevant part of what I meant.

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Seha is trying to deflect from her constitution embarrassment, so I doubt it was her.
Seriously dude? If you can't read it's not my fault. Last time I entertain your unwarranted provocations.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Was it Ravael?
Pleebo?

Wait, you put me and Pleebo in the same thought? Explain thyself!
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what laws of god are you referring to? nature/physics?
 
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
charlo999 said: »
For those banging on about witch hunts and trying to tie it to Catholics only. It was used in just about every Kingdom in the world.
Who was?

Was it Ravael?
Pleebo?

I know Sparth loves his witch hunts and all, but I don't see him mentioning it.

Fonewear only care about the witch hunts shown on the Simpsons, and he hasn't posted a Simpson's clip yet, so it couldn't be him.

Seha is trying to deflect from her constitution embarrassment, so I doubt it was her.

Kojo doesn't give a damn.

Rooks already is on his current witch hunt, so he can't be bothered to address it here.

Altima doesn't give a *** about witches, and Nausi doesn't give a *** about hunting, so it's not them.

Wait....could it be....me?

/grabs a pitchfork
It was Brother Nathanael.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
charlo999 said: »
For those banging on about witch hunts and trying to tie it to Catholics only. It was used in just about every Kingdom in the world.
Who was?
I care about witch hunts, I studied them and even read the Malleus Maleficarum.

But it wasn't me.
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
The old Old Testament defense routine, egh? The old Testament is just as much a part of the Bible as the New. The deity did not suddenly change. His commandments are still his word and his will to Christians.

The great thing about the Bible (if one can say such a thing!) is that if the Old Testament is invalid then so is the New.

Eh, close but no. Yes it's the same deity, and yes it's stupid to be a Christian and pretend that the Old Testament didn't happen. Where you're wrong is the bolded part. It's spelled out pretty well in the New Testament that certain parts of the old law are no longer to be followed and have been replaced by the "new law".
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-10 18:41:45
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
More than one person has done it in the history of this section alone.
Should be easy to prove then.

Valefor.Sehachan said: »
It's in response to people arguing with each other that someone wants to change it, as it's a condemnable sin.
Sounds like your trying to infer something about the constitution of the USA.

Valefor.Sehachan said: »
It's a generic statement and maybe a suggestion that people should say what shouldn't be changed rather than saying "but it's the constitution".
How can you say this.. Then say this right after it!
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
It wasn't about USA, but rather about the arguments people present to make their cases.

I could go on but I think that should do it.......
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By charlo999 2015-12-10 18:48:21
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Wtf. So to condem Christianity you pull stuff that was law in history from the Old Testament? To the Israelites.
You'll have to show me in Romans where it tells Christians to kill homosexuals too.
Your BS aurguements fall flat on their face.
And to call the Catholics terrors on Christians is just showing how knowledgeable you are on the subject. You'll have to show me where it said to build up some Pope system and put him in charge.
You'll have to show me where it teaches to burn witches and kill false prophets.
Pro tip: they ain't true bible believing Christians. The pope has even come out and said the bible ain't real and portrays some fake jesus he has authority over.

The old Old Testament defense routine, egh? The old Testament is just as much a part of the Bible as the New. The deity did not suddenly change. His commandments are still his word and his will to Christians.

The great thing about the Bible (if one can say such a thing!) is that if the Old Testament is invalid then so is the New.

Kill witches?
You shall not allow a sorceress to live. Exodus 22:18

Everyone knows that one! Old King James said you should not suffer one to live.

They also go to hell like most of the planet apparently will!

False Prophet?

Oh, here is your Romans request too:

Had to copy and paste all 8 verses for you. Good job reading your Bible sir.

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Don't worry Chapter 2 goes on to say people who judge those people are just as bad as them, BUT don't worry because the next verse says this god will just *** smite everyone mentioned. So it doesn't matter I suppose.

Lol you have the information for sure but the understanding is far far off.

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35 And one of them, an expert in religious law, asked him a question to test him: 36 “Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?” 37 Jesus said to him, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 The second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the law and the prophets depend on these two commandments.”

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15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

The punishment involved for breaking the laws have passed. The new covernant changed the way to serve those laws. This is what you don't get. Jesus coming and dying for us all as God in a human manifestation whilst living among us was so we could have a relationship with him, a bond with him instead of him barking orders in the sky. Before that he could only lay down his nature and moral laws but could never connect with us in a loving relationship.

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13 No one has greater love than this—that one lays down his life for his friends.

It is the same kind of closeness and respect soldiers have for each other.
It is a freely given love and respect that was the purpose for all of this.
And in realisation of that loving respectful relationship the believer WANTS to obey the commands. Like a soldier who's laid down his life for another. Or a son that enters into a change of relationship with his father from obeying him in punishment, because he is young, to realising his fathers love and obeying out of loving respect. That is what being saved is all about, seeing Jesus then in that love it makes us a new person in following his guidelines.
We have been given pride to have free will of the heart so we can forfill what God made us for. To have a loving relationship with him. Problem is pride being a means to an end gives us the option of doing some evil stuff, it's a double edged sword which God is long suffering as he watches it. Only in realising him through Jesus sacrifice can we turn to him freely which kills our pride in ourselves by default.
This is the good news we spread, by no means are you forced to follow though because no one can force love. It's your choice and all Christians know and should respect this, even if they get frustrated sometimes because they are desperate for you to share in it.
 
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