Populism And Nationalism On The Rise In Europe

I don't even need to bother, because I don't care, and you'll never admit you aren't the foremost expert on everything ever discussed or contemplated by man. You're wrong about quite a few aspects of WWII, yet you are utterly obnoxious and rude about it. Have a nice day.


Also, it's Google Fu, like Kung Fu...

Welcome to my world.


I see a lot of time spent sniping anyone who opposes wasteful government spending on idealistic, pipe dream policies. Posts like this should be your norm, because posts like this make sense.

Most of the opposition to wasteful spending is portrayed as minorities sitting on their butts and buying luxury cars with welfare money. Why isn't the wasteful spending on military contractors or private influence on legislators ever the focus?

I confront the "conservative" posters primarily because they only care about social policies and are only concerned with government waste in those aspects. A person who calls themself conservative but doesn't care about 800 billion dollars going a bloated defense budget or the hundreds of billions wasted on the drug war, or the hundreds of millions wasted trying to repeal PPACA instead of fixing it but thinks Solyndra is the worst excess ever, isn't conservative, they're just partisan.

My ideal government is smaller and less authoritarian, but that just isn't going to happen until we either go back to public campaign funding or impose congressional term limits, or both. And, since neither of those are likely due to public complacency, I'd rather see that wasted money spent on building the population as a whole. There's no reason people can't be successful if you make the tools and knowledge available. A government is only as good as it's people, and our current focus and trend are toward a less informed, less educated, and poorer population.

Every major source of wasteful spending should get the spotlight from time to time. Instead we have finger pointing at the other side, pretending the problems on our side don't exist.


Remember that little box you were complaining about?


I get the feeling that we have different views on which foci and trends are leading to a less informed, less educated, and poorer population, but I'm in agreement for the most part.

Funny, everyone here wants the opposite.

Everyone? Or just the politicians.

The US actually does, the main people operating the hornets are:

Canada
Australia
Finland
Kuwait
Spain
Malaysia
and Switzerland

the FMS does sell the hornet, but not many off them.

This topic is way too important to be derailed by wrong information about Hitler/WW2 (monetary system change, Russian's capabilities, who gave which orders). I don't expect anyone to know everything, but at least look it up before you post it, the information has been researched by historians, use it.

This is also not the place for a Germany vs. America fight. Different nations have different priorities and therefor some things are more desirable there and some here.

This topic is about the rising populism and nationalism in Europe.
It might be hard for non-europeans but this cannot be treated as one matter, it is different for each country. If you don't want an overload of research and typing work just put one or few countries up in your debate. Details are important here. Stuff like "It's just conservative policy, don't cry if you don't like it" is pure nonsense and should not be posted. Look at Poland: It is not conservative politics (American and European meaning of it) for a new government to fire people from other constitutional organs to weaken those. The polish people woke up and demonstrated against that today, should have known that before electing PiS.
Hungary castrated free press a few years ago.
This is no mere change in Politics, it is the destruction of the pricinpals in democracy which enables us to live in peace and freedom like seperation of powers or free press.

For the voters and non-voters in Europe. Look up the programs of these parties and take it serious. Also watch for tricks like in France where Le Pen says something for the de-industrialed worker in the north while her niece, candidating for a southern département, has a very different tone. Look nationwide for the true faces of these parties.
Another common strategy is to target groups who are barely heard by the electorate like Refugees or the European Union.
Don't just jump on the anti-established parties bandwagon. If your established parties messed up majorly look for a new party. In Europe, many parties have proved that small parties can take a vital role, even if they were unnoticed for many years. Don't be shy to vote for those.

Seha said what this theme is about:
It is about future of your societies. Don't take the apathy route displayed by a user a couple pages later, or you will wake up in a society you do not want.
Think about, formulate the society you all want to live in and look for a party that comes the closest to it and vote for it.
We don't have an awareness problem in Europe but an activness problem.

To set this thread back on track, we can now start discussing the reasons why the rise happens now. Keep the thread clean, it is important.

Because of the absolutely MASSIVE amounts of reports on this thread for Spam/Off Topic posts this thread now has one foot in the grave.

Get back on topic; the one in the OP, or get out.

The Germany parallel with the monetary system is actually on topic in my opinion. And has a good example of the feelings of the economic debt and repercussions of today. And like Hitlers nationalistic rise turning this round people are looking at getting back to nationalism.
Sovereignty is being bought off by private banks. Nation services and lands are being sold off, jobs being lost by money grabbing corparations. The debt from these losses make people feel their countries have been bought. Constantly bailing out. Governments are in turn forced to sing to the tune of this debt. Look at greeces referendum ignored. Democracy has basically been bought.
The breadcrumbs that's left are what we are voting for.
Party's that are elected hardly ever keep their promises because of this. Add to this austerity.
Then you have the over influence of political correctness and liberalisation that has killed national pride and freedom of expression.
Offensive to fly a flag, offensive to have a school nativity, offensive even talk about certain subjects, offensive to celebrate nationalism, offensive this, offensive that.
Then add the terrorism on top again.
People are pissed off, feel their nation has been bought, feel enslaved, oppressed and scared.
Is it a wonder nation ism is on the rise really?