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FFVII Original-to-Remake Appreciation Thread.
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By Siren.Novadragon 2015-12-06 18:21:43
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »Several colors for each chocobo 'tier'?
They could make it harder to get the extra World Map abilities. I know my dad loved Choco breeding, he spent many hours on that. I remember filling my stables with Gold chocos at one point. It wasn't hard to do, so they could easily expand on it, add more colours, new abilities, but ultimately keep the Gold Chocobo the best, and able to reach Knights Of The Round. I hope they don't make KOTR available any other way; everyone enjoys FFVII chocobos, without the incentive there would be no point.
Purple, Red, White, Pink, Blue did exist in the Chocobo Racing game.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 18:22:55
Totally forgot about Pink. There's two blues, the light blue (the one you can breed), and the darker blue (the one I always wanted).
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By Asura.Regicide 2015-12-06 18:24:22
Please can i have a ff9 Remake it was 2wice as good as ff7 T.T
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 18:25:39
Please can i have a ff9 Remake it was 2wice as good as ff7 T.T
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By Siren.Novadragon 2015-12-06 18:26:21
In FF9, Red was mountain, Sky Blue was shallow waters, Blue was Sea. Maybe Black Chocobo have traits to all 3 and Gold can fly?
Can help to expand the Chocobo variety.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 18:28:19
Ok, so just another thing I want to see in the Remake, and hopefully it's expanded on considerably. Mythril Mine is one of the smallest areas in the game, and although it included no bosses and a brief cutscene with The Turks, I always found it beautiful and underutilized.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-06 18:31:07
In FF9, Red was mountain, Sky Blue was shallow waters, Blue was Sea. Maybe Black Chocobo have traits to all 3 and Gold can fly?
Can help to expand the Chocobo variety.
That would work, maybe require you to have all 3 to breed a black one that can do all 3 things while the others can only do one thing each (unlike Red that could do shallow waters + mountains and Blue can do all 3)
Not sure how it would work with 3 but <.< They can figure it out
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 18:32:56
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »In FF9, Red was mountain, Sky Blue was shallow waters, Blue was Sea. Maybe Black Chocobo have traits to all 3 and Gold can fly?
Can help to expand the Chocobo variety.
That would work, maybe require you to have all 3 to breed a black one that can do all 3 things while the others can only do one thing each (unlike Red that could do shallow waters + mountains and Blue can do all 3)
Not sure how it would work with 3 but <.< They can figure it out
They could add abilities to dig for items (like FFXI), to sprint faster (in the field); there's so many extra abilities that could be added. Hopefully a Gold Chocobo is something you really have to work for, and has all the abilities and nice rewards.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-06 18:38:54
You mean like in IX! (chocographs and Hot & Cold)
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 18:40:34
Completely forgot about this!
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 18:41:21
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »You mean like in IX! (chocographs and Hot & Cold)
Yes, FFIX got it right. Only thing it didn't have was the Choco racing.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-06 18:47:18
They could easily make it work in VII, there's a lot of unused land where you could dig for special items (maybe to help with breeding too)
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By Phoenix.Erics 2015-12-06 18:47:37
I enjoyed the flawless translation, i hope there is more of it in the remake.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 18:52:27
Which character is everyone's favourite?
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By Siren.Novadragon 2015-12-06 18:54:15
Cid.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 18:59:47
That's a good question. Should they keep the swearing in?
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2015-12-06 19:03:21
I think the one thing that people under appreciate from time to time is the story of FF7.
There is lot of subtlety about the plot which most people just shrug of as emo stuff.
I love the more darker tonnes of the game. It touches in some places that need to be pointed out a little bit more in the gaming world. I tend to enjoy how much people *** about how 'emo' and 'mopey' Cloud is post Zack Persona.
It's almost as if an incredible amount of horrible things happened to him in a very short period of time. One of which occurred over the course of five years. Suddenly things seem to be looking up and then it crashes and burns again. And then again within days. And again some time later. Aaaaand again before he finally put his own personality back together.
But y'know, he's the hero of the game. Clearly he should be able to shrug it all off no problem. Halone forbid we have human protagonists.
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By Phoenix.Erics 2015-12-06 19:05:32
Which character is everyone's favourite? 
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-12-06 19:09:52
That's a good question. Should they keep the swearing in? Most of FFVII's fanbase is 18+ now and it may be voiced, I doubt they will but they could just do an M rating and leave it in.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-06 19:12:55
They can just avoid *** and use ***/damn/hell and it won't be such a big deal
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-12-06 19:17:15
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »They can just avoid *** and use ***/damn/hell and it won't be such a big deal True. FFVII is the only one I remember having implied profanity. Damn and hell aren't as heavily censored though.
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By Siren.Novadragon 2015-12-06 19:21:18
When the train reaches maximum speed, Cid goes s************************!!
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 19:39:53
Cid is my fave, followed by Vincent. I played Dirge Of Cerberus because of Vincent and loved it. I hope Cid has a cig in his mouth in the remake too. I'm really hoping they don't tone down the smoking, the swearing, and the sexual references. The remake should not be for kids.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-06 19:43:17
Which character is everyone's favourite? Tifa. Maybe not so much for the character per se(I'm actually not particularly fond of any FF7 character, the game in general is only around the middle in my personal ranking of all FFs); but I loved that they made a girl with a monk class, it was only ever replicated in IV-TAY(with the difference that Ursula is meh).
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-12-06 19:46:07
Ok another question time. Should the remake make reference to Angeal and Genesis from Crisis Core? Anyone who's not seen the video below should; it's pretty epic, and probably the best Crisis Core cinematic aside from the ending.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 19:50:10
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »I hope the Shinra mansion is creepy (the music playing is great and I'm looking forward to the remastered version), Sephiroth torching the town was a great scene. Always enjoyed Shinra headquarters when you follow the blood trail too
Oh jeez. Didn't think about that. The mansion could be creepier and bigger (I played Crisis Core and I liked how they recreated it), and the part at Shinra mansion .. should be so creepy you can taste the blood trail.
Rather global concept, but the character development was rather huge and I hope they either develop that further or do it credit this time around. Although I always hated Barrett.
Plus it would be nice to see Tifa as something other than walking Boobs for a change.
You know what I hate? When people talk down about a character because they have big boobs. I mean, I'm playing Metal Gear Solid V Phantom Pain, and Quiet has her cleavage out 24/7, I've bonded with her to the point she's always flirting with me. But I have to be honest, her body is not why I like her. I like her because she's a damn good sniper, and she actually cares about Snake and Mother Base.
It's the same for Tifa. My first reaction of her was "whoa, big boobs", but by the end of FFVII I had completely forgotten about that. I liked Tifa for Tifa. Objectivity is only a thing if the person playing makes it a thing. I didn't like the fact they made Tifa smaller in Advent Children, not because I wanted to see boobs .. but because it's not Tifa. And it's the same for Quiet, if they ever remade MGSV and changed Quiet to have smaller boobs, it wouldn't be Quiet anymore.
So I'm hoping they keep Tifa as she was intended. Big breasted, but most importantly, a lovable character who cares for everyone and keeps Cloud and Barrett from killing each other. Also Tifa saves Cloud from himself.
They will use the ff7 AC Model simply because those giant Baps would clip during combat animation.
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-12-06 19:51:08
Ok another question time. Should the remake make reference to Angeal and Genesis from Crisis Core? Anyone who's not seen the video below should; it's pretty epic, and probably the best Crisis Core cinematic aside from the ending.
YouTube Video Placeholder I want to say no, but that's me. If it does, maybe in a very subtle, easter egg way.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 19:54:49
Ok another question time. Should the remake make reference to Angeal and Genesis from Crisis Core? Anyone who's not seen the video below should; it's pretty epic, and probably the best Crisis Core cinematic aside from the ending.
YouTube Video Placeholder I want to say no, but that's me. If it does, maybe in a very subtle, easter egg way.
Maybe as a completely separate side quest where you have to collect video recordings of their fight scenes/training in the training rooms? Could be in the mansion in some stupid coded safe.
I wanted to make this thread to see what people appreciate the most about the original game, and what would they most like to see in the Remake.
So I'm going to lay some ground rules down. Firstly I ask everyone to post ONE thing (per post) they want to see in the Remake (whether it's exactly the same or if you want to some tweaks, explain that), and you can only post again after someone else has followed, to avoid spam.
Also, secondly, mentioning the battle system is against the rules. We only want to talk about the rest of the game here. If you want to talk about the pros-and-cons of turn-based combat versus real-time combat, go to the other thread.
Thirdly, this is an appreciation thread, so only true love for FFVII is allowed. No hate please. I love FFVII, I love the game so damn much it bugs me when people talk down about it. It bugs me when people won't even give the game a chance because "the graphics suck!". So I'm looking to connect with other FFVII lovers here. I have so many things I want to see in the Remake, but I'll start us off with one example.
World Map & Highwind
One of the biggest things for me is the chance to traverse the World Map. FFVII was the first world map I ever traveled across, and back in 1997, it was a huge thing. Nowadays we don't see World Maps anymore, instead they are split up in to zones, and generally you can use an airship to "warp" to other zones (I hated FFX when I got the airship and couldn't fly it), but that's not enough!
I want to be able to physically pilot the Highwind, land the Highwind, watch Cloud & Chocobo depart from the Highwind, and hell why not, give that ship some firepower! And the World Map .. imagine it in today's graphics, extended, and in glorious detail. Being able to land and "zone" into Cosmo Canyon. Wouldn't it be great? I can clearly see why they would choose not to include a World Map like the one in the original, but hopefully they manage to do it. While they are at it, make the interior of the Highwind bigger, with a bigger room so you can store your favourite Chocobos.
And lastly, I want to be able to chase Ultima Weapon around the world map! Oh man, that would be epic.
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