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 Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-02 15:39:44
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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Hitler
This thread is progressing much too quickly.
Kids these days, they don't understand the art of gently easing into a Hitler comparison. Always rushing it now!
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:39:44
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Can we get back on topic though?

Anything new?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-02 15:40:01
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Mao wasn't as bad as Hitler or Stalin.

In regards to political slaughter, sure. In regards to total governance, he's by far the biggest tyrant in modern history, killing far more of his people through terrible policies than anyone else.
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:40:16
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
It was.

Yours was not.
Yet it wasn't, and mine was. Going to have to agree to disagree.
 
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-02 15:41:19
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Quote:
CBS News ‏@CBSNews 6 minutes ago

"We have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world."
"Our hearts go out to the victims and the families" - @POTUS
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:41:23
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Yes by all means let's have the rights of others have no reasonable reforms and continue to be a blackeye of this country.

When it comes to my and others' rights, I will be as unreasonable as I please. Also you consider it to be a "black eye" not everyone does.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-02 15:41:45
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Right, let's make it so the government is the only one with easy access to violent weapons. That worked so well in Stalin's Russia, Mao's China and Hitler's Germany.

Someone doesn't understand the difference between a constitutional republic and a dictatorship...

Why do you want people to be defenseless?

LOL... You are defenseless, and if you think differently, you're insane.

You're the guy that brings a knife to a gunfight. You're who that phrase is aimed at.
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:41:53
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
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It was.

Yours was not.
Yet it wasn't, and mine was. Going to have to agree to disagree.

They made a statement and you said no.

Nothing to disagree on.
Again, going to have to agree to disagree.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-02 15:42:55
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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Hitler
This thread is progressing much too quickly.
Kids these days, they don't understand the art of gently easing into a Hitler comparison. Always rushing it now!
Premature e-Hitler-ation
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-02 15:43:47
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Mao wasn't as bad as Hitler or Stalin.

In regards to political slaughter, sure. In regards to total governance, he's by far the biggest tyrant in modern history, killing far more of his people through terrible policies than anyone else.
Actually I take it from a monetary perspective. Mao is all over Chinese currency, while Hitler and Stalin are not on any of their respective currencies.

I know there's a cultural perspective involved too, but I mean in order to have his face all over the money they use today has gotta say something compared to the other two guys.

However, he was responsible for something like 20mil+ deaths (Chinese), so there's that. :/
 
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:45:05
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Yes by all means let's have the rights of others have no reasonable reforms and continue to be a blackeye of this country.

When it comes to my and others' rights, I will be as unreasonable as I please.

Then your rights are *** and aren't even real rights.

No one is born to the right to a gun like they are to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. All of which continue to be taken by a bunch of nut jobs who don't care about others rights.

Unfortunately we have rules in this world that are made due to society needing to move at pace of the slowest idiot to progress.
Guns are nice to own, but some people ruin it for everyone.
Again, going to have to disagree. The right to be armed is a fundamental right by extension of the right to defend life liberty and property.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-02 15:48:58
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70 schools are on lockdown because of this
 
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-02 15:49:43
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So cmon guys,

Angry conservative, mentalaly ill, or the "religion of peace"?
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:49:43
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
70 schools are on lockdown because of this

Glad it's on the west coast.
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:50:32
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
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It was.

Yours was not.
Yet it wasn't, and mine was. Going to have to agree to disagree.

They made a statement and you said no.

Nothing to disagree on.
Again, going to have to agree to disagree.

Fine whatever, but its not a reasonable thing to have to disagree on considering they said it works in the rest of the world. A substantiated opinion and all you said was this isn't the rest of the world. As in to say no that doesn't work.

No refuting happened at all.

So why is this a "we have to agree to disagree" statement.

They made a claim and instead of something solid since your mind is set into ideas of your rights over the rights of anyone else you simply said no.

Like I said, we're going to have to agree to disagree.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-02 15:50:44
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
So cmon guys,

Angry conservative, mentalaly ill, or the "religion of peace"?

Why not a mentally ill conservative jihadist


It probably has nothing to do with Islam this time though
 
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-02 15:51:57
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Very odd place to attack
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:52:13
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It's not like California doesn't already have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the United States.

Doesn't mean it's nearly enough

Doesn't mean that they work either.

That's as much to do with their wording and enforcement as anything else. I know where you're going with this, and the evidence doesn't support it.

lol, thanks I needed that laugh.
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-02 15:52:55
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The right to life is also a right yes? So we have a confliction of rights

Don't give me that right to defend liberty nonsense. You are never going to use a gun to standup to tyrants in your life.

No, there is no conflict. As for your opinion (in bold), it's irrelevant, and unsubstantiated, however I hope it doesn't come to that in my lifetime.
 
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-12-02 15:54:28
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
There is always a motive.

Yeah but it's still an odd place to attack
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-02 15:55:55
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
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Very odd place to attack

There is always a motive.


Maybe they thought it was a tyrannical institution.

Well it was a welfare office wasn't it? Welfare is a form of slavery.
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