11/13/2015 Paris Terrorist Attack

The holder of a Syrian passport found near the body of one of the gunmen who died in Friday night's attacks in Paris was registered as a refugee in several European countries last month, authorities said.

The man, identified by Serbian authorities only by his initials A.A., came into Europe through the Greek island of Leros, where he was processed on Oct. 3, Greek officials said on Saturday. He was among 70 refugees who arrived on a small vessel from Turkey.

Serbian authorities said on Sunday the same man had been registered at a border crossing from Macedonia into Serbia a few days later.

The information is significant because if one or more of the Paris gunmen turned out to have come into Europe among refugees and migrants fleeing war-torn countries, this could change the political debate about accepting refugees.

"One of the suspected terrorists, A.A., who is of interest to the French security agencies, was registered on the Presevo border crossing on October 7 this year, where he formally sought asylum," the Serbian interior ministry said in a statement.

"Checks have confirmed that his details match those of the person who on October 3 was identified in Greece. There was no Interpol warrant issued against this person."

A spokeswoman for the Croatian interior ministry said the man was registered in the country's Opatovac refugee camp on Oct. 8 and from there he crossed into Hungary and then Austria.

"There was no (police) record about him at the time of registration and there was no reason for us to stop him in any way," she said.

Austrian Interior Ministry spokesman Karl-Heinz Grundboeck said however the assertion that the suspect attacker had passed through Austria had "no concrete basis."

"According to the latest information available, that is no more than conjecture and speculation," he said.

Any identity documents and fingerprint records would have to be matched with the remains of the attackers to establish whether they passed through various countries posing as refugees, or perhaps bought or stole passports along the way.

Greek government sources said a second suspect attacker was also likely to have passed through Greece.

Following the Paris bloodshed, populist leaders around Europe have rushed to demand a halt to an influx of refugees and migrants from the Middle East and Africa. Poland said it could not accept migrants under EU quotas without security guarantees.

Human Rights Watch's Emergency Director Peter Bouckaert said on Twitter the Syrian passport found may have been fake, adding such fake documents are widely available for sale in Turkey.

"The answer to the Paris attacks and the possibility that one of the attackers came by rubber dinghy to Greece... is not to shut the door on those desperately fleeing war," he said, calling for Europe to put in place a coherent asylum policy that would both help those on need and address security concerns raised by uncontrolled flows.

"People fleeing war need refuge. And trying to build fences and stopping them at sea only drives them deeper into the hands of criminal gangs, and drives them underground where there is no control over who comes and goes."

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No, don't be like the US.

Your people (at least in Paris) are not like the Americans too, and never should be.

That being said I love Paris.

As a note, I'm not saying we should do 1:1 what is listed, I'm saying we need to find something half way that is actually efficient.

If you wipe every single one of them, the idealogy would disappear. Remove freedom from your citizens, track them everywhere and anywhere, ruin their mountains, use any weapon you can that will target and eradicate them.

You have an idea that isn't being a vegetable while not doing 1:1 what I'm saying? That'd exactly the point of my first comment, to find something efficient that isn't extreme.

Iraq #1 was good, US just Mc Fuk'dup by going back where they should have never went back (same for any other country involved). But that was already mentioned.
Afghanistan was retardation, Vietnam was full retard, you don't need to be American to loath the government that imposed this ***to their citizens.

These people aren't humans, why do you insist on staying human? Also, the humanity is only given up for a short time, we go back to carebears after we're done removing cancer.
The point is to be efficient, to have an impact. If I'm given the chance to solve the issue that is terrorism at the cost of my humanity or life, I'd do it in a heartbeat, because I want results and my loss is a joke compared to the win.

I don't know what you mean by pulling through. We've been pretty impacted by this specific attack. I won't walk in the main train station of my city as peacefully as I did Friday morning from now on. I'm still fully trusting my fellow Muslim/Arabs citizens, I'm feeling rather safe considering my city's special trait but I'm not feeling safe regarding a possible random guy that will think that blowing up Saint Charles is a good idea.
People will keep living, for the simple reason that we have to. If I stay home because I'm scared of being bombed, nobody will give me money, nobody will put food in my plate. I have to go, everyone has, and I will not think too much about it because it's simply not the kind of person I am, but I don't understand that whole "get through". There is nothing to get through, nothing changes, nothing changed. The only people that will have to move on through something are the people directly involved, the victims, not even the police or army.

The second war in Iraq was not so good. I remember being heavily against everything that happened from Afghanistan to Libya and whatever is going on nowadays. If I was older I may have been just as much against what happened before.
No need for quagmire, systematically eradicate them, leave no stone unturned. If you have a half way solution, then it's even better. We avoid the extreme bombing that won't solve anything while still moving away from the drone jokes and the waste of time that is diplomacy.

We have terrorist groups in France, but you rarely hear about them, like VERY rarely. If anything, drug "debt settling" in my city are the biggest thing happening in the whole country and even then, I'm not even worried one bit about being a collateral damage of it.

Glad to see your still there Senky!

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after 9/11, there should have been a systematic and complete annihilation of the region

What exactly do you mean by this?

Clean the bad guys through ground OPs. Now, not in 10 years.

Action, not reaction, to sum up. If they can do stuff in Belgium right now after 100+ people died, it mean they could have before, too (they didn't get new intel).

I'm not saying innocent people in the Middle East who are perfectly fine people need to die, I'm saying we need to act. The way things are presented, we have no weapons/way of dealing with them between soldiers on the spot and drones. I'm sure there is more to it, and more efficient. Without needing to wait for people to die to act.

However, the extreme case I explained above, in the event that we cannot reach enough efficiency, involved removing a part of the world population regardless of who or what. Yeah, that's the extreme solution, which shouldn't be followed, but it is still a solution. The point is to find a solution that isn't as extreme but gets ***done. And preferably, with as little collateral as possible. But what solution is that? That's my question.

Also, is it just me or does anyone think of this as an Inside-Job? Dont know why, but my senses are tingling...

If your senses are tingling get a nerve conduction study done to check for peripheral neuropathy.

Otherwise you're just being a tinfoil-hatted troll.

Far be it from me to say that the media never over-reports something, but it's hard to say that the deaths of dozens of people at the hands of terrorists is "overblown."

If anything, deaths in other parts of the world should get the same level of coverage, then maybe we'd address it as the global problem it is spanning religions, races, cultures, and borders.

That said, please don't be too hard on people going about their day-to-day in the wake of tragedy. That's how you deal with it; accept what happened and live on. You've got to keep going after something like this or what's the point?

If you start cowering in your homes and living in a police state the terrorists have officially achieved their goal. It's right in the name.

Terror.

Sorry but #3 , #4, and #5 DO NOT make sense to me what so ever. I understand the attacks on the first 2 because of the amount of people there, but attacking restaurants/cafes? Why? I really think we should focus on this matter.

Sorry but #3 , #4, and #5 DO NOT make sense to me what so ever.

As for the other point, ISIS has already proved to be a very well organized group, unlike older terrorist organizations. Besides it was only 8 people, not like it requires some military genius to coordinate..

After the tragedy that happened in Paris, my close friend who lives in Nice, went to Paris for vacation and told me the Media absolutely over-exaggerated on this matter , which shocked me.

1) People are still walking the streets like nothing happened.

2) There are no Police nor Security(check-points, borders, etc..)

3) All shops/business are open and people are going through there daily lives like nothing happened.