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 Phoenix.Amandarius
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-17 16:38:28
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Anna Ruthven said: »
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If you read any part of it in English then you haven't read any of it.
Not sure if that's a yes or a no. Something-something deflection.

The Quran must be read in Arabic or you are not reading the Quran. I do not speak Arabic ergo I did not read the Quran nor do I plan to. Spart has read excerpts, says he. If he read them in English then he has read precisely zero of the Quran.

Muhammed leading armies is a matter of historical fact independent of the Quran.
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By Siren.Akson 2015-11-17 16:40:36
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Without Jesus you are a brainwashed slave to Allah just like the rest of them
Also still haven't heard an explanation of this laughable statement.
I already answered you.
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Without Jesus you are a brainwashed slave to Allah just like the rest of them
Started laughing here.
Muhammad conquered many lands converting everyone into Muslim Islamists and YES it's true the opposition defended themselves in the name of Jesus. So laugh all you like but it's historical.
If anyone has a better interpretation of why such things transpired then feel free to help me understand.
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-11-17 16:41:03
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
The Quran must be read in Arabic or you are not reading the Quran.
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If he read them in English then he has read precisely zero of the Quran.
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I do not speak Arabic
Um.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-17 16:41:07
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That wasn't an answer considering it doesn't address what I quoted.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-17 16:42:41
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Anna Ruthven said: »
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The Quran must be read in Arabic or you are not reading the Quran.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
If he read them in English then he has read precisely zero of the Quran.
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I do not speak Arabic
Um.

I'm sorry what's confusing you, infadel?
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By Asura.Ccl 2015-11-17 16:44:13
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Going back to attack/jihadist that goes from here to Syria, when we read about their profile online/tv new you realize it's poverty/war/feeling like having no future that make people do crazy stuff, religion is just a way you use them, most of them are:

-Poor/live in poor town
-Don't have any work/Degree
-Don't speak/read arabic
-Do not have an islamic lifestyle at all
-Aren't born muslim and got into it not long before they go boom

So far what we know about those that did Paris attack follow this trend, maybe it's just a France thing, I wonder if their profile is the same in other country.
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By Siren.Akson 2015-11-17 16:45:37
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Also kids are kinda forced into catechism here, don't forget I hail from the cradle of christianity.
This child is speaking way too freely.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-17 16:46:43
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Siren.Akson said: »
Still deflecting I see.
 
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-11-17 16:49:47
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
The Quran must be read in Arabic or you are not reading the Quran.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
If he read them in English then he has read precisely zero of the Quran.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
I do not speak Arabic
Um.

I'm sorry what's confusing you, infadel?
You quite clearly state that you do not speak Arabic and from that it'd be safe to say you cannot read Arabic and thus you have never read the Quran in Arabic. You also state that the English translation of the Quran isn't the "real" Quran but you also heavily implied that you didn't read this "fake" English version. So, you quite obviously haven't read both and compared them, meaning you're either making ***up, assuming things, or running on secondhand information.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-11-17 16:50:49
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
I can't tell who is actually stupid, who is just being ironic and whose actually smart in here anymore.

You're all too suave!
I believe it's suavé.

Yeah, now who's the idiot?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-17 16:51:19
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
The Quran must be read in Arabic or you are not reading the Quran.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
If he read them in English then he has read precisely zero of the Quran.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
I do not speak Arabic
Um.

I'm sorry what's confusing you, infadel?

Your ignorance.

Oh, and this also means no one has read the Bible due to those English translations.

No actually, it is read in Arabic or it is not read. It isnot my rule. Don't call me ignorant because of your crusade to defend the Paris attackers.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-17 16:52:32
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
your crusade to defend the Paris attackers
Once again the same strawman.

The fact you guys keep saying this just proves you are not interested in any discussion.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-17 16:53:52
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
The Quran must be read in Arabic or you are not reading the Quran.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
If he read them in English then he has read precisely zero of the Quran.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
I do not speak Arabic
Um.

I'm sorry what's confusing you, infadel?
You quite clearly state that you do not speak Arabic and from that it'd be safe to say you cannot read Arabic and thus you have never read the Quran in Arabic. You also state that the English translation of the Quran isn't the "real" Quran but you also heavily implied that you didn't read this "fake" English version. So, you quite obviously haven't read both and compared them, meaning you're either making ***up, assuming things, or running on secondhand information.

I don't think that I could have stated more clearly that I have not read the Quran nor has anyone else here that does not READ Arabic.

Brush up on your English first if you plan on taking the plunge.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-17 16:54:43
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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your crusade to defend the Paris attackers
Once again the same strawman.

The fact you guys keep saying this just proves you are not interested in any discussion.

10 pages of your excuses for them is not a strawman.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-17 16:56:14
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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your crusade to defend the Paris attackers
Once again the same strawman.

The fact you guys keep saying this just proves you are not interested in any discussion.

10 pages of your excuses for them is not a strawman.
Again ignoring what people are actually saying and injecting your fantasy into it.

Stop changing what people say into whatever you would like to hear.
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By charlo999 2015-11-17 16:56:41
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Whether you belive or not in Christ it is a major factor in turning the hate that Muslims are fed with Islam. These people obviously believe in a God. You won't take that away. Preaching Christ peacefully in the face of death in love is having a massive impact on Muslims.

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Extraordinary stories about massive number of Muslims converting to Christ are appearing around the world. Recently at World Magazine, writer Warren Cole Smith interviewed 25-year missionary David Garrison who has documented his findings about the Muslim phenomenon. “There is a revival in the Muslim world,” Garrison says. He believes between 2 and 7 million former Muslims have converted to Christianity in the past two decades. His book, A Wind in the House of Islam, contains impressive research to back up his claim.
Why is this happening? Nabeel Qureshi, a popular speaker and author, explains in his book and online testimony that the gospel is being proclaimed with greater effectiveness. Qureshi affirms that the Holy Spirit works primarily by and through Scripture. And in his own experience, he says that subjective visions about Christ were also steps in his conversion from Islam to faith in Christ.
Open Doors USA recently reported a remarkable conversion story of a former Muslim man in Iran named Taher. He would beat his family and even threatened to kill them because of their faith in Jesus. After Taher's family fled abroad, time passed and in his growing despair he cried out: "I will believe in the God who reveals Himself to me." According to his story (here), the living God answered his prayers through a dream. It isn’t clear how much of the Bible Taher was exposed to, but he heard the gospel through the witness of his family and saw the reality of their faith in the face of persecution.

Also check the testimonies about conversions on YouTube. Considering the life long hate preached toward Christ I find this conversion an amasing miracle by gods work.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-17 16:57:31
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There are also massive amounts of christians turning muslim, what is your point? lol
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By Odin.Slore 2015-11-17 16:58:31
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I have not seen a single thing on any news media in the US on this and I read them all, good try though. Don't report me I'm just replying to your snark remark.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-17 16:59:05
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Who are you talking to?
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By Siren.Akson 2015-11-17 16:59:16
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Deleted - Freedom of Religion ffs
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-17 17:00:34
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Siren.Akson said: »
You're still not answering about that quote.

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Without Jesus you are a brainwashed slave to Allah just like the rest of them
The thing about the historical war of Muhammad has nothing to do with it so, still waiting.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-17 17:01:10
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Odin.Slore said: »
I have not seen a single thing on any news media in the US on this and I read them all, good try though. Don't report me I'm just replying to your snark remark.

So..did you try Google? /laughing
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By charlo999 2015-11-17 17:02:20
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I'd love you to challenge God to show you if he and him in Jesus are truth in prayer sehachan.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-11-17 17:03:34
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-17 17:03:40
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Lol.
 
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