WHM DD

Anyone got a Randgrith set?

If you wanna check damage for various Randgrith options, you can use the WHM DD Spreadsheet and decide for yourself! ;-)

Randgrith isn't very different from Judgment or Black Halo. If you have a set for those WSs, you can use it for Randgrith too.

How does Mjollnir R15 compare to Maxentius?

So nothing compares to Maxentius? Is that what im hearing?

If you're firing off at 1k itll probably edge it out

I've got both and have been playing around with them in Dyna-D with DNC sub.

Maxentius Black Halo pulls ahead, pound-for-pound. R15 Mjoll is great for W3 boss to prevent walling though, since you're throwing Randgriths out at 1k TP you can just get a steady roll of about 20-25k hits.

The really nice thing about R15 Mjollnir is being able to cap the Cure Potency I category in a midcast set super easily without losing TP. There are other ways to do it, we actually have a lot of effective options for MH/OH combos, but Mjoll doesn't make us choose between physical stats and cure potency.

Don't hesitate to try out a Daybreak off hand.

Flash Nova is pretty nice with it, and you can use Seraph for TP overflow.

It's really good on Wave 3 Volte/Bosse. Even better with a malaise bubble.

Best thing about it is that it has far lower enmity than physical WS.

Bunzi's Rod+ Daybreak was pretty good overall.

If you have it, I would definitely use mythic for AM3/faster TP gain.

nobody thought of it yet, so I took the steps to do it! We love our DD WHM's. Now they are going to be bringing it with this set. The all new, multi hit, STP, DT, mother f-in max gear haste settt. BiS TPing for physical WSing, example Black Halo. If going with magic WS route, example Flash Nova, I'd suggest Daybreak in your off hand and Bunzi's Rod R20+ in the main hand.

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Some optional upgrades would be:

Hoxne Ampulla
TP Bonus Club offhand
Crep Earring (more Acc and dont need DA w/ Hoxne)

Then you could also swap neck for Null neck and Ring for 2nd Chirich +1. You'd lose 5 DT for a fat sum of Accuracy

For 99% of content I feel like 45% DT is good enough in a TP set.

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*if using an ambu cape instead can cap DT, otherwise DT-45.
*more subtle blow, 49% with Auspice & Eburs+3.
*cap dual wield with subjob's haste samba.
*gil toss.
*occasionally triple white dmg.

*if doing flash nova bunzi/daybreak. if seraph strike, only swap main for daybreak.


damn, you beat me to it.

I get excited every time I see this thread bumped

I like the Stone / Eabani combo. I wrote it off

I mentioned it in other thread. You forgot Hoxne Ampulla :)
Telos is better than Brutal. You dont really need Murky ring, 40%DT is enough. You can use Crepuscular. Bunzi's hat is better at R30.

You should be using /dnc and haste samba.

Neither /nin or /dnc should go for Stone+Eabani. At least with Maxentius/Ukaldi it's tp gain loss.

For DNC this is the best with Hoxne:


Back with sTP, Nyame head A. Bunzi if you don't have Nyame. Ofc it's kinda low accuracy. You can change Dedition to Alabaster. You can use null loop for 50 PDT and acc. You can use Null belt for even more meva and accuracy.

I don't recommend /nin unless you need shadows. /dnc is like 20% faster tp gain with haste samba. That 350TP and 1sec JA delay cost will be covered very fast.

need 9 dual wield to cap, that setup's missing 5. is it really a TP gain loss? I have no idea. figured 1 overcap DW would be better than 5 under.

Are people really using Hoxne enchantment so much that it's going in literally every TP set now?

Edit: Am I just that stingy?

When you map out BIS (Best In Slot), you consider all options. I still remember when Nyame came out, some people raged that Path B WSD was unreasonable to include in gear sets because not many people could obtain the Bumba V15 clear. It was a silly suggestion, since people DO indeed want to see the best possible damage or speed-to-tp set possible, whether they can obtain it at the moment or not. It's a future goal anyways, but it's also just good for people to see the improvement in damage straight up.

Hoxne Ampulla is buyable (9 in stock right now on Asura, last few sold 170m), so it's accessible to a lot of players far more than Nyame gear ever was. Don't people still care about BIS? I would think so. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't include it in TP sets now, since it's a huge DPS increase for every job that can make use of it without conflicts with ranged/ammo slot.


Stingy how? Gil is virtual currency, it's not real or used for anything if its sitting on your character doing nothing with it. If you bought a piece of gear that improved your damage, you would pay gil for it in exchange for numbers. How is paying-per-use for the same exchange any different? You're paying as you go, instead of all at once up front (plus you can choose when to use it, so it's actually a more efficient use of your gil).

Paying 200k gil in HoxPulla fees to get through limbus 30 seconds faster seems like a shitty investment, idk.

I do spend money, but I also don't earn oodles of gil. I can't ever imagine myself using Hoxne just because gil has always been something I've struggled to earn over the years. Sure it's virtual currency, but I'd much rather save gil for equipment or other things than just spend it blindly not seeing how much it's taking from me every time I use it. I feel like I'd end up sooner or later stuck somewhere because I don't even have gil to HP warp or something (I know this is irrational, but it's me).

Not saying this is you or anything, but sometimes I feel like people are either sitting on multiple KClubs to sell or to them buying gil is so trivial that it doesn't mean anything to them. That isn't me.

WHM can offhand a kraken club, so it's w/e.
WHM/none can also Diamond Aspis to be the skillchain extender.

I would only really consider Hoxne on WHM at Ngai & gigelorum.

in sortie, I am 100%'ing ampulla on GEO, so 500k/sortie down the tube. w/e I get to WS more often and it lets me easily solo our A shard+medal while the others get D shard.

edit: GEO/DNC i-malaise realmrazer > black halo > fire5 in non-Occult set kills. takes 2 melee rounds for each WS, so quite fast. I should try magic ws too, see if i can bring it much lower and be able to MB a faster nuke. less chance I get interrupted since I always forget to ask for aquaveil before we enter.

I also typically solo Porxie while he kills deleterious, 5-step and it's dead... i'll have to try magic ws there too sometime. ( true strike > BH > BH > Realm > Realm )

If 200k gil for an increase is a bad investment (subjective opinion), then so is HQ gear with literally +1 stat. HQ necks, food, cheer effects, REMA/Primes (dealing 99k vs 90k w/e), Master Level 50, Balder Earring +1/Skryrim Cord +1, etc. Anything that gives you a minor improvement over the nq or "good enough" is a "bad investment". Either all of it is "unnecessary" to clear the content or none of it is. All subjective to the player, plus it's a game. If you want an increase to your character/speed/minmax (I know it looks weird, but some people enjoy pushing their character to higher levels), the item is there. If you don't care about the minimal increase, ignore it. There's always going to be players who care for character improvement, and those who couldn't care any less. Minmaxing won't ever die.


Respectfully, the item isn't for you if gil is an issue. It's clearly designed for people who have the gil to spare (plus its a way to remove excess gil from the server). I'm not going to tell you how to earn gil because it's really not all that hard in modern ffxi, but if losing a few hundred thousand every event is too much for you (i spend a million gil on Panaceas every 10 Shinryu runs/Sorties etc and I am NOT rich/single box player who plays under 7 hours a week), you should ignore the item altogether. The game practically spits out gil in hundreds of ways nowadays, far better than back in the day. If you are afraid of your own pockets, just don't get it. Still BIS regardless.

I don't even have one yet (waiting on price to drop) and I'm sure it helps for your particular situation, but for this specific use case, Malaise Bubble, OA set > -ara 3 > Flash Nova > ara 3 > Flash Nova > MB Thunder/Fire. It's dead. 15 seconds or so. Pull next one with Aspir. Repeat. (Not a GEO thread), but I would imagine casting for TP in OA set is way faster than meleeing, but it is an increase for WS for sure.

Horrible strawman, horrible.
If you bought your HQ gear for one event, you can use it for all of those other events at no cost until it gets outdated, or SE adds some augment (UNM gear)

After the 170 mil investment on HoxPulla, it becomes pay-per-use

Apples to oranges analogy. You assume everyone who has Ampulla paid 170M (or whatever) for it and then whatever it is to use/play each time. It comes from Trove (or Gobbie Box), maybe it was free. If you pay 170M for a 5-20% (throwing random number out, and that's super generous, most items don't give that large of an increase to dps) increase from an item, you paid for it up front and can use it to your heart's content until it gets replaced. If you got your Hoxne for free, it cost you nothing until you use it. How long can you get use out of it until you get to 170M, a year, 5? You can choose when you would use it, so it's not all at once. Even still, how long can you use Hoxne until it gets replaced? Will 100% DA be replaced by anything else ever in the future? Impossible to say. But it's one of the biggest increase items they've put in the game for a lot of situations.

Opportunity cost is a thing though, so philosophically I don't agree with "getting an Ampulla for free." You chose not to sell it, thereby foregoing 170m, so it cost you 170m whether you like it or not.

It's still an insanely valuable item and provides a boost unlike basically (literally?) any item in the game, so I don't think the price tag (or the gil you throw) is unjustified, but I don't agree that it's a "free" item.

If you get a KC from Up In Arms and then don't sell it, you got a "free" KC also, but you also are essentially "paying" 1b gil to keep it, the 1b you could have if you sold it instead of holding it.

So I put 10 DW on the WHM JSE Ambu Cape, what would be a better belt/neck compared to what I currently have? Wind Buffet Belt +1 and Lissome Necklace are what I currently have in the set.

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