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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-24 09:01:36
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Jetackuu said: »
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Let's see:

-Clock was not for a school project.
-Clock was not any sort of engineering, it was confirmed to be piece by piece an unmodified retail clock removed from the casing.
-Clock was beeping in class, despite needing an AC power source or backup battery and obviously needing to be configured to beep.
-Clock had conspicuous wire on the outside that didn't serve any function besides distinguishing it from an ordinary pencil case.
-Kid's dad is an activist, with personal reasons to want something like this to happen.

Liberal logic: OMG THEY HATE HIM CUZ HE BROWN

1. irrelevant
2. No.
3. lol
4. No, it didn't.
5. irrelevant as well
1. Relevant as it shows intent.
2. Are you saying that this was an original piece of work?
3. Is that irrelevant as well?
4. Are you also denying that?
5. Are you saying that parents have no influence over children?
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2015-09-24 09:07:25
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Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Let's see:

-Clock was not for a school project.
-Clock was not any sort of engineering, it was confirmed to be piece by piece an unmodified retail clock removed from the casing.
-Clock was beeping in class, despite needing an AC power source or backup battery and obviously needing to be configured to beep.
-Clock had conspicuous wire on the outside that didn't serve any function besides distinguishing it from an ordinary pencil case.
-Kid's dad is an activist, with personal reasons to want something like this to happen.

Liberal logic: OMG THEY HATE HIM CUZ HE BROWN

1. irrelevant
2. No.
3. lol
4. No, it didn't.
5. irrelevant as well

Let this one die. Sure it wasn't a real bomb, but there are reasons why someone might have intentionally brought a fake bomb to school. Or this might have really been an honest mistake by a kid followed by extreme reactions by all the people around him. None of the people commenting here will ever know for sure, it's all just your opinions.
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By Jassik 2015-09-24 09:13:14
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Bismarck.Laurelli said: »
Let this one die. Sure it wasn't a real bomb, but there are reasons why someone might have intentionally brought a fake bomb to school. Or this might have really been an honest mistake by a kid followed by extreme reactions by all the people around him. None of the people commenting here will ever know for sure, it's all just your opinions.

It was well on it's way to being dead, but someone had to bump it with hopes of a kid being a terrorist.
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By Aeyela 2015-09-24 09:15:30
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
-Kid's dad is an activist, with personal reasons to want something like this to happen.

I've seen lots of people using this argument but at no point has anyone proved it or quoted their source. Until then it remains propaganda at best, vile hate mongering at worst.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-09-24 09:16:48
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You'd have an easier time convincing devout Catholics that Jesus never exists than convincing sone here that Americans aren't as racist/bigoted/homophobic as the media has led them to believe.
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By Jassik 2015-09-24 09:17:03
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Aeyela said: »
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
-Kid's dad is an activist, with personal reasons to want something like this to happen.

I've seen lots of people using this argument but at no point has anyone proved it or quoted their source. Until then it remains propaganda at best, vile hate mongering at worst.

Anyone who has an opinion is an activist if you don't agree with their opinion.
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2015-09-24 09:20:09
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Well this whole conversation is stupid. A bunch of people insisting that they somehow know for a fact that it's option A, then another bunch of people replying "your opinion is wrong, it's most surely option B." No one will ever convince anyone from the other side, and no one can ever know for sure at this point in time . Also, IF one day the truth actually does come to light, half the people here will have egg on their faces. So why continue?
Would be nice if this thread was locked and would go away from the FFXIAH homepage.
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By Aeyela 2015-09-24 09:21:06
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Bismarck.Laurelli said: »
Well this whole conversation is stupid. A bunch of people insisting that they somehow know for a fact that it's option A, then another bunch of people replying "your opinion is wrong, it's most surely option B." No one will ever convince anyone from the other side, and no one can ever know for sure at this point in time . Also, IF one day the truth actually does come to light, half the people here will have egg on their faces. So why continue?

That's how a forum works, dear.
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By Jassik 2015-09-24 09:24:09
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Bismarck.Laurelli said: »
Well this whole conversation is stupid. A bunch of people insisting that they somehow know for a fact that it's option A, then another bunch of people replying "your opinion is wrong, it's most surely option B." No one will ever convince anyone from the other side, and no one can ever know for sure at this point in time . Also, IF one day the truth actually does come to light, half the people here will have egg on their faces. So why continue?
Would be nice if this thread was locked and would go away from the FFXIAH homepage.

The forum mods haven't determined it requires locking, but it could certainly be demained at this point.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-24 09:25:21
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This thread is actually very civil compared to others.

Ni is far worse than this thread.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-24 09:32:13
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
This thread is actually very civil compared to others.

Ni is far worse than this thread.

I disagree.
..and?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-09-24 09:35:09
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Bismarck.Laurelli said: »
Well this whole conversation is stupid. A bunch of people insisting that they somehow know for a fact that it's option A, then another bunch of people replying "your opinion is wrong, it's most surely option B." No one will ever convince anyone from the other side, and no one can ever know for sure at this point in time . Also, IF one day the truth actually does come to light, half the people here will have egg on their faces. So why continue?
Would be nice if this thread was locked and would go away from the FFXIAH homepage.

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By Drama Torama 2015-09-24 09:36:34
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/looks around

Still seems civil to me

/shows himself out

ps. Ni is fine, but one's mileage is going to vary on that, and it's not something that needs discussed in here in any case
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By volkom 2015-09-24 09:45:47
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Haven't been keeping tabs on the story since at first I thought it was stupid. Kid brought clock to school, gets arrested, click bait titles thinking it was something to do about race or whatever.

However after reading different articles and watching interviews and "analysis" videos of people's interpretation of the clock its all starting to be kinda weird.

Anyway you slice it, a clock inside a case is kinda suspicious or at the very least is odd. The kid claims to be an inventor and likes electronics. I have no problem with that and like schools/teachers who encourage this kind of behavior. I use to bring random ***to school and show to certain teachers because I thought they'd be interested in it. So I can see why a kid would bring something they made. Now using a clock you can get at a store, taking it apart and showing it off, eh it has it merits. Can learn about circuitry and stuff but its definitely not something the kid made.

I think we're not getting the full story of what took place with how the teachers and the police interacted with the kid that lead to his arrest.

As far as the kid's family goes...its possible they could be activists or something. Heard they went to the same mosque that had the protests at earlier this year. Also the kid's sister got suspended for bomb threats as well. So the whole thing is super sketchy.
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By Aeyela 2015-09-24 09:51:03
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volkom said: »
As far as the kid's family goes...its possible they could be activists or something. Heard they went to the same mosque that had the protests at earlier this year. Also the kid's sister got suspended for bomb threats as well. So the whole thing is super sketchy.

Again with this. Source?
 
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-24 10:02:33
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Bismarck.Laurelli said: »

Let this one die. Sure it wasn't a real bomb, but there are reasons why someone might have intentionally brought a fake bomb to school. Or this might have really been an honest mistake by a kid followed by extreme reactions by all the people around him. None of the people commenting here will ever know for sure, it's all just your opinions.

Yet there's intentional misinformation being spread, so no.

volkom said: »
Anyway you slice it, a clock inside a case is kinda suspicious or at the very least is odd.

I don't find it odd at all.
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2015-09-24 10:18:32
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As far as anyone knows, he might have been dared to do this by a girl he finds cute, during a game of truth or dare.

A bunch of people scream "he made a pencil case clock, he's a genius who will cure cancer!"

And another bunch scream "Terrorist!"

But in reality, he's just an awkward nerd who was trying to get some action.

So that's what I'm running with, since I have just as much proof as anyone else here.

Source: The picture of him had the "I thought I was gonna get some action" expression on his face.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-24 10:23:12
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Bismarck.Laurelli said: »
And another bunch scream "Terrorist!"
The only ones screaming "Terrorist" are the ones who are also screaming "He's a genius." They are screaming "Terrorist" as the argument that those who state that he isn't a genius is making.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-09-24 10:28:13
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Here

Here is a few unanswered questions people who don't auto-buy into the SJW narrative tend to ponder.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-09-24 10:36:55
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Doesn't have to be a genius. It's a 14 yo who is exploring engineering, he didn't invent a new teleportation device but still he made something the majority of his peer wouldn't even know where to begin with if they wanted to imitate it.

As for the thing being "suspicious"...well, that's just the usual paranoia of people. Wanting to see a hidden meaning behind everything, never trusting anyone, always assuming the worst intentions possible.

Until you can prove he had ill intentions, stop giving this kid ***.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-09-24 10:39:12
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I'd like to see the fine print on the offers that this kid is getting.

*Offer valid until the next news cycle brings us a different "victim" flavor of the month, everyone forgets about you, and/or we can no longer profit off of the good PR.
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2015-09-24 10:41:35
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Doesn't have to be a genius. It's a 14 yo who is exploring engineering, he didn't invent a new teleportation device but still he made something the majority of his peer wouldn't even know where to begin with if they wanted to imitate it.

As for the thing being "suspicious"...well, that's just the usual paranoia of people. Wanting to see a hidden meaning behind everything, never trusting anyone, always assuming the worst intentions possible.

Until you can prove he had ill intentions, stop giving this kid ***.

Anyone can take a bought clock apart and fit it into a box it's not that hard really. I've done that at school but mine actually looked like a clock since it was an analogue clock mounted into a wooden casing then painted. I'd say that was more complicated than what his kid has done.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-09-24 10:42:23
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So? You want an applause? The internet acknowledges your awesomeness, congratulations.

The story isn't about whether this kid is the smartest in the universe.
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By Jassik 2015-09-24 10:45:25
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Doesn't have to be a genius. It's a 14 yo who is exploring engineering, he didn't invent a new teleportation device but still he made something the majority of his peer wouldn't even know where to begin with if they wanted to imitate it.

As for the thing being "suspicious"...well, that's just the usual paranoia of people. Wanting to see a hidden meaning behind everything, never trusting anyone, always assuming the worst intentions possible.

Until you can prove he had ill intentions, stop giving this kid ***.


I frequently have computer components in the back seat of my car. Various server blades, PSU's, etc. I came out of a local coffee shop to find 2 police officers looking into my windows suspiciously. There wasn't a problem, I just walked up to my car, asked politely if I could have space to pull out, and left. However, I now put computer components in my trunk, because apparently anything with wires is suspicious.
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By Aeyela 2015-09-24 10:46:14
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I frequently have computer components in the back seat of my car. Various server blades, PSU's, etc. I came out of a local coffee shop to find 2 police officers looking into my windows suspiciously. There wasn't a problem, I just walked up to my car, asked politely if I could have space to pull out, and left. However, I now put computer components in my trunk, because apparently anything with wires is suspicious.

I'll be the one to say it. Be thankful you're not a Muslim!
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By Jassik 2015-09-24 10:47:18
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Aeyela said: »
Jassik said: »
I frequently have computer components in the back seat of my car. Various server blades, PSU's, etc. I came out of a local coffee shop to find 2 police officers looking into my windows suspiciously. There wasn't a problem, I just walked up to my car, asked politely if I could have space to pull out, and left. However, I now put computer components in my trunk, because apparently anything with wires is suspicious.

I'll be the one to say it. Be thankful you're not a Muslim!

It's hard to say that it was anything more than small-town cop curiosity.
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By Aeyela 2015-09-24 10:48:00
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It's hard to say that it was anything more than small-town cop curiosity.

Of course, but since we're being accused of being judgmental liberals we may as well act the part.
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-24 10:48:05
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Used to have that crap in my old car from time to time. In my current car I've just had a 4u rack in the back for over a month, along with 2 bins filled with random cables).

Guess I should clean that ***out.
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