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YouTube Video Placeholder Ragnarok.Hevans said: » you believing it has no impact on the validity of the method. Can I get this on a t-shirt? Ragnarok.Hevans said: » 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in 2014, population of mexico is 122.3million. so even if EVERY undocumented immigrant was mexican you'd still be off. Heh, sure. Closer to 30 million Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Ragnarok.Hevans said: » 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in 2014, population of mexico is 122.3million. so even if EVERY undocumented immigrant was mexican you'd still be off. Heh, sure. Closer to 30 million Lets say that the experts are wrong and it is 30 million and all of them are from Mexico... What does that have do with this judge? This is just a classic case of let's make everyone think Trump said y instead of x. Trump never said the guy was unqualified because of his race. The case he's making is that the judge's personal politics are influencing his rulings.
The judge is a member of "la raza" (the race) for crying out loud. If anything the judge is the one who should be suspect of being a racist. But nope, that's not the narrative the media and the libs want. Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Ragnarok.Hevans said: » 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in 2014, population of mexico is 122.3million. so even if EVERY undocumented immigrant was mexican you'd still be off. Heh, sure. Closer to 30 million Lets say that the experts are wrong and it is 30 million and all of them are from Mexico... What does that have do with this judge? Maybe they're just trying to take their country back
Ragnarok.Nausi said: » This is just a classic case of let's make everyone think Trump said y instead of x. Trump never said the guy was unqualified because of his race. The case he's making is that the judge's personal politics are influencing his rulings. The judge is a member of "la raza" (the race) for crying out loud. If anything the judge is the one who should be suspect of being a racist. But nope, that's not the narrative the media and the libs want. And no that is not what La Raza (the organization). Educate yourself. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » This is just a classic case of let's make everyone think Trump said y instead of x. Trump never said the guy was unqualified because of his race. The case he's making is that the judge's personal politics are influencing his rulings. The judge is a member of "la raza" (the race) for crying out loud. If anything the judge is the one who should be suspect of being a racist. But nope, that's not the narrative the media and the libs want. Trump is very good at saying things in a way that can be defended but in which everyone knows what he actually means. The media is just a reflection of the people that comprise it, not some cabal of political activists. La Raza is a an advocacy group for Latino Americans who actually support immigration reform. I don't think you'd lambaste a black person for having ties to the NAACP or a Christian for having ties to a religious advocacy group. What makes his ties to La Raza such a problem? And, again, what does any of that have to do with his ability to hear a FRAUD case? Siren.Akson said: » Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Ragnarok.Hevans said: » 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in 2014, population of mexico is 122.3million. so even if EVERY undocumented immigrant was mexican you'd still be off. Heh, sure. Closer to 30 million Lets say that the experts are wrong and it is 30 million and all of them are from Mexico... What does that have do with this judge? I understand the concern, don't think I'm oblivious to the relative shortcomings of our naturalization system. My wife is a foreign citizen and legal permanent resident. You're inferring that the problem is simply people entering the US illegally and having anchor babies without having any real metrics as to how widespread the problem is. It's a problem, we all agree, even the most diehard liberals agree, propose a solution that actually solves the problem. A wall won't, thousands of agents on the border won't, hourly bombing raids along the border won't, etc. There needs to be a reasonable path to legally immigrate here. As someone with firsthand experience of the immigration process, the current system is a total mess. Even if you wanted to do it legally, the vast majority do not have the means or ability to file the paperwork, and even if they did, they face at least a year worth of delay, additional paperwork and fees, endless medical exams and repeat immunizations, and less than a 10% chance of having a visa approved. And if all that goes right, they still have to be able to afford to move here and then find work. And if it doesn't, they're out more than half of the costs incurred and will have to spend it all again to refile the next year. As long as it's so difficult and expensive to do it legally, they'll keep doing it illegally. If we build a 30 foot wall along the border, they'll just stop and buy a 31 foot ladder on the way. Offline
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Jassik said: » Siren.Akson said: » Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Ragnarok.Hevans said: » 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in 2014, population of mexico is 122.3million. so even if EVERY undocumented immigrant was mexican you'd still be off. Heh, sure. Closer to 30 million Lets say that the experts are wrong and it is 30 million and all of them are from Mexico... What does that have do with this judge? I understand the concern, don't think I'm oblivious to the relative shortcomings of our naturalization system. My wife is a foreign citizen and legal permanent resident. You're inferring that the problem is simply people entering the US illegally and having anchor babies without having any real metrics as to how widespread the problem is. It's a problem, we all agree, even the most diehard liberals agree, propose a solution that actually solves the problem. A wall won't, thousands of agents on the border won't, hourly bombing raids along the border won't, etc. There needs to be a reasonable path to legally immigrate here. As someone with firsthand experience of the immigration process, the current system is a total mess. Even if you wanted to do it legally, the vast majority do not have the means or ability to file the paperwork, and even if they did, they face at least a year worth of delay, additional paperwork and fees, endless medical exams and repeat immunizations, and less than a 10% chance of having a visa approved. And if all that goes right, they still have to be able to afford to move here and then find work. And if it doesn't, they're out more than half of the costs incurred and will have to spend it all again to refile the next year. As long as it's so difficult and expensive to do it legally, they'll keep doing it illegally. If we build a 30 foot wall along the border, they'll just stop and buy a 31 foot ladder on the way. YouTube Video Placeholder Offline
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I don't think they sell 31 foot ladders at Home Depot so how would the Mexicans find that ladder ?
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YouTube Video Placeholder Jassik said: » Siren.Akson said: » Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Ragnarok.Hevans said: » 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in 2014, population of mexico is 122.3million. so even if EVERY undocumented immigrant was mexican you'd still be off. Heh, sure. Closer to 30 million Lets say that the experts are wrong and it is 30 million and all of them are from Mexico... What does that have do with this judge? I understand the concern, don't think I'm oblivious to the relative shortcomings of our naturalization system. My wife is a foreign citizen and legal permanent resident. You're inferring that the problem is simply people entering the US illegally and having anchor babies without having any real metrics as to how widespread the problem is. It's a problem, we all agree, even the most diehard liberals agree, propose a solution that actually solves the problem. A wall won't, thousands of agents on the border won't, hourly bombing raids along the border won't, etc. There needs to be a reasonable path to legally immigrate here. Quote: As someone with firsthand experience of the immigration process, the current system is a total mess. Even if you wanted to do it legally, the vast majority do not have the means or ability to file the paperwork, and even if they did, they face at least a year worth of delay, additional paperwork and fees, endless medical exams and repeat immunizations, and less than a 10% chance of having a visa approved. Quote: And if all that goes right, they still have to be able to afford to move here and then find work. And if it doesn't, they're out more than half of the costs incurred and will have to spend it all again to refile the next year. As long as it's so difficult and expensive to do it legally, they'll keep doing it illegally. If we build a 30 foot wall along the border, they'll just stop and buy a 31 foot ladder on the way. Immigration laws used to be much more relaxed. You can't attribute our high diversity to current laws.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Immigration laws used to be much more relaxed. You can't attribute our high diversity to current laws. Offline
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How do we fix illegal immigration ? Tear down the wall !
fonewear said: » We should be more like Mexico be run by drug cartels ! Offline
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Are you advocating i join a vigilante group in Mexico to take on the cartels ? Cause I'll do it !
Siren.Akson said: » Jassik said: » Siren.Akson said: » Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Ragnarok.Hevans said: » 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in 2014, population of mexico is 122.3million. so even if EVERY undocumented immigrant was mexican you'd still be off. Heh, sure. Closer to 30 million Lets say that the experts are wrong and it is 30 million and all of them are from Mexico... What does that have do with this judge? I understand the concern, don't think I'm oblivious to the relative shortcomings of our naturalization system. My wife is a foreign citizen and legal permanent resident. You're inferring that the problem is simply people entering the US illegally and having anchor babies without having any real metrics as to how widespread the problem is. It's a problem, we all agree, even the most diehard liberals agree, propose a solution that actually solves the problem. A wall won't, thousands of agents on the border won't, hourly bombing raids along the border won't, etc. There needs to be a reasonable path to legally immigrate here. Quote: As someone with firsthand experience of the immigration process, the current system is a total mess. Even if you wanted to do it legally, the vast majority do not have the means or ability to file the paperwork, and even if they did, they face at least a year worth of delay, additional paperwork and fees, endless medical exams and repeat immunizations, and less than a 10% chance of having a visa approved. Quote: And if all that goes right, they still have to be able to afford to move here and then find work. And if it doesn't, they're out more than half of the costs incurred and will have to spend it all again to refile the next year. As long as it's so difficult and expensive to do it legally, they'll keep doing it illegally. If we build a 30 foot wall along the border, they'll just stop and buy a 31 foot ladder on the way. You obviously would rather rely on presumption than examine the problem objectively. As pleebo noted, our current diversity is mostly due to previous immigration policies. In the 20's when my great grandparents immigrated here, they simply showed up at Ellis Island and filled out some forms. Look at the actual statistics and previous immigration policies and when the large migrations were. It would add a lot of perspective to your argument. Phoenix.Amandarius
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fonewear said: » I don't think they sell 31 foot ladders at Home Depot so how would the Mexicans find that ladder ? 30 feet doesn't sound high until you are 30 feet up in the air and feeling not so brave anymore. Offline
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If you want a laugh your *** off turn on CNN right now. They have like 8 pundits talking all at once that make us here on P n R look sane
Jassik said: » You obviously would rather rely on presumption than examine the problem objectively. Quote: As pleebo noted, our current diversity is mostly due to previous immigration policies. In the 20's when my great grandparents immigrated here, they simply showed up at Ellis Island and filled out some forms. Quote: Look at the actual statistics and previous immigration policies and when the large migrations were. It would add a lot of perspective to your argument. Offline
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