I've done some testing with self SC+MB and it does some good dmg. If you have a high magic acc vs the target, you could able to do around the triple dmg that you can do on a ws.
But that is assuming you use Futae.
Ninja Equipment Sets (April 2015)
Ninja Equipment Sets (April 2015)
Got an Ochu while spamming the new SoA fight.
Augments were: Dmg+15 Str+10 Dex+10 Ninjutsu skill+10
Augments were: Dmg+15 Str+10 Dex+10 Ninjutsu skill+10
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Creecreelo said: »
Got an Ochu while spamming the new SoA fight.
Augments were: Dmg+15 Str+10 Dex+10 Ninjutsu skill+10
Augments were: Dmg+15 Str+10 Dex+10 Ninjutsu skill+10
Wow, that's pretty damn nice with those augs. Less DMG than a max Izuna but slightly less delay, but those attributes! Wouldn't be surprised if that beats an excellent Izuna mainhand thanks to the stronger WS mods. At the very least, in the top handful of katanas (and RME katanas die a little more).
Not to mention R.Acc for Daken helps a bit and isn't something people would have on an Izuna. Magic stats are gravy, allowing you to actually maybe get some decent MB in while still using a legit DD katana.
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Creecreelo said: »
Got an Ochu while spamming the new SoA fight.
Augments were: Dmg+15 Str+10 Dex+10 Ninjutsu skill+10
Augments were: Dmg+15 Str+10 Dex+10 Ninjutsu skill+10
Ochu comes from Sinister Reign iir
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Wow, that's pretty damn nice with those augs. Less DMG than a max Izuna but slightly less delay, but those attributes! Wouldn't be surprised if that beats an excellent Izuna mainhand thanks to the stronger WS mods.
Ochu with good augments seems even better though, altough I'm going on a hunch here, haven't mathed it out.
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Sounds like its base item with random aug's, similar to abby box weapons. I could be wrong though.
Yeah, good freaking luck getting +1 neo-Khepri hands. They look nice, but that crafting system...
Nagi comes from Sinister Reign, as do Samnuha Coat and Samnuha Tights. Both of those also come with pre-augmented (random?) augments.
Tights in particular look interesting. Augments reported: STR+8 DEX+9 DA+3% TA+2%. I'd be all over some DEX+15 tights with DA/TA/Acc/good STR - fantastic Shun piece.
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Oh damn, these things are augmented as well?
NIIIICE....WAIT! Do these augment somehow involve investing gil?
NIIIICE....WAIT! Do these augment somehow involve investing gil?
Cerberus.Kaeviathan said: »
Oh damn, these things are augmented as well?
NIIIICE....WAIT! Do these augment somehow involve investing gil?
NIIIICE....WAIT! Do these augment somehow involve investing gil?
They drop pre-augmented, a la JSE capes when they come out of Incursion coffers.
Can someone test Ochu with the best Augments that were found so far?
Imho it should be better than Raicho +1, much better, but in the few tests I've performed it comes really close (1/0.5 dps difference).
I'd love to see more detailed tests if someone can be bothered with those. It seems too strange to me that it's this close to Raicho+1.
Imho it should be better than Raicho +1, much better, but in the few tests I've performed it comes really close (1/0.5 dps difference).
I'd love to see more detailed tests if someone can be bothered with those. It seems too strange to me that it's this close to Raicho+1.
—[Aug 2015 BEST Katana]—
Set DPS:
Set DPS:
Set DPS:
Also btw: I stick w/ Kujaku+1 over all sub. Vs Sinister Reign, in max acc set, I couldn't self-SC using Izuna/Kujaku+1 but w/ Nagi combination AM3 + OAT i could. So eventho it's not amongst the "Best" in spreads. It's still BiS imo vs highest evasion targets regardless.
Correction: Non-Mythic wpns are closer Set DPS then I listed. Was lazy and swapped wpns around not tp sets. 10~20 more DPS subracting STP for Double Attack.
Set DPS:
Code
Nagi / Izuna — 1469.691 Izuna / Izuna — 1412.023 Ochu / Izuna — 1411.374 Raicho+1 / Izuna — 1397.166 *Izuna Dmg+17, Acc/Att+15, CritDmg+5 main **Izuna STR/AGI+15, Acc/Att+15, CritDmg+5 sub
Set DPS:
Code
Nagi / Ochu — 1439.417 Izuna / Ochu — 1404.141 Ochu / Ochu — 1388.190 Raicho+1 / Ochu — 1382.398 *Izuna Dmg+17, Acc/Att+15, CritDmg+5 main
Set DPS:
Code
Nagi / Raicho+1 — 1440.476 Izuna / Raicho+1 — 1401.527 Ochu / Raicho+1 — 1398.145 *Izuna Dmg+17, Acc/Att+15, CritDmg+5 main
Also btw: I stick w/ Kujaku+1 over all sub. Vs Sinister Reign, in max acc set, I couldn't self-SC using Izuna/Kujaku+1 but w/ Nagi combination AM3 + OAT i could. So eventho it's not amongst the "Best" in spreads. It's still BiS imo vs highest evasion targets regardless.
Code
Nagi / Achiuchikapu — 1412.600 Izuna / Achiuchikapu — 1379.575 Ochu / Achiuchikapu — 1387.346 Raicho+1 / Achiuchikapu — 1376.308 *Izuna Dmg+17, Acc/Att+15, CritDmg+5 main
Correction: Non-Mythic wpns are closer Set DPS then I listed. Was lazy and swapped wpns around not tp sets. 10~20 more DPS subracting STP for Double Attack.
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How does Achiuchikapu do for an off-hand?
Odin.Nappy said: »
How does Achiuchikapu do for an off-hand?
Nice, Ochu is not Rare/Ex
should be EX when augmented
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NIN+PLD is probly the best combo now since SE fixed emnity and Innin w/ Yain: Ichi. Just thought I'd mention. When we needed UC items for Escha t2 zi tah. We did Borealis Shadow trio PLD+NIN+whatever mage and rest Trusts.
Other than PLD+RNG maybe, i don't think even PLD+THF is better than a PLD w/ NIN. I'm sure ppl have been using w/o saying. Just sayin for those who haven't been.
Other than PLD+RNG maybe, i don't think even PLD+THF is better than a PLD w/ NIN. I'm sure ppl have been using w/o saying. Just sayin for those who haven't been.
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Figured you guys would appreciate this. Did it pretty much as a joke, now I think I have new Blade: Hi feet. Path D ftw.
A: ACC10 ATT10 EVA15
B: STR10 DEX10 ATT15
C: Pet: (HP100 ACC15 DT-3%)
D: HP50 Crit Rate 3 DA2
A: ACC10 ATT10 EVA15
B: STR10 DEX10 ATT15
C: Pet: (HP100 ACC15 DT-3%)
D: HP50 Crit Rate 3 DA2
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Yeah, good freaking luck getting +1
| ItemSet 336874To do list: TP | ItemSet 336875Blade:Hi | ItemSet 329775 Path:A — DEX/AGI+12 Acc+20 |
Those feet path D should work nicely for MNK and PUP As well for Vsmite and STringing Pummel.
Not sure if the best, but they surely going to work nice at least.
For NIN there are also the new Loyalist's Sabatons which with perfect augments are a nice option for WS and TP.
Check em.
And Ta'lar Trousers too are a decent sidegrade, altough for TP they're probably under Samnuha and for WS they're probably under perf augs Taeon. (for Blade: Hi of course, because for Shun Samnuha are better).
Ta'lar are worse than both probably, but at the same time they don't suck in either role (with perf augs, of course)
Not sure if the best, but they surely going to work nice at least.
For NIN there are also the new Loyalist's Sabatons which with perfect augments are a nice option for WS and TP.
Check em.
And Ta'lar Trousers too are a decent sidegrade, altough for TP they're probably under Samnuha and for WS they're probably under perf augs Taeon. (for Blade: Hi of course, because for Shun Samnuha are better).
Ta'lar are worse than both probably, but at the same time they don't suck in either role (with perf augs, of course)
— Abnoba > Enforcers by 110+ pts and Taeon by 290+ pts WSD. Hope it's not as impossible to get.
— Ryuo NQ > Taeon by 320+ pts WSD
— Samnuha > Taeon by 39pts Set DPS
— Damp. Tam > Skormoth by 1pt Set DPS but Acc/Racc far superior
—NQ Adhemar < Taeon by 5pts but rather stack STP over Attack. WS faster w/ more tp overflow.
Correction: NQ Adhemar > Taeon by 27pts Set DPS
— NQ Adhemar does beat Damp. Tam by 12pts Set DPS as well.
Can't wait to see more hexed augs!
— Ryuo NQ > Taeon by 320+ pts WSD
— Samnuha > Taeon by 39pts Set DPS
— Damp. Tam > Skormoth by 1pt Set DPS but Acc/Racc far superior
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Correction: NQ Adhemar > Taeon by 27pts Set DPS
— NQ Adhemar does beat Damp. Tam by 12pts Set DPS as well.
Can't wait to see more hexed augs!
OP is updated.
By any chance does anyone have an up to date spreadsheet?
Got to revise the sets once again, but some other time. Just started playing.
Best I could find for Shun when Day/Time permits.
ItemSet 337263
Rao Path:B
Adhemar Path:A (eventho Path:B better [Max Acc TP Set]
Am I missing anything?
ItemSet 337263
Rao Path:B
Adhemar Path:A (eventho Path:B better [Max Acc TP Set]
Am I missing anything?
Hmm, a lot of this gear wasn't available in April 2015 though..
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Did you test with Lilitu Headpiece? (perfect augments).
Granted that it has no accuracy, but it's a nice piece.
Gavialis is a pretty decent option for Shun even without the correct Day.
When I tested (very quickly) my tier order for Shun was
Lilitu (Perf) > Gavialis (day) > Dampening (P) > Gavialis (no day)
I didn't factor in Abjuration gear because when I did the test augments weren't known yet. Let's give a quick look at those now.
Some random considerations:
Granted that it has no accuracy, but it's a nice piece.
Gavialis is a pretty decent option for Shun even without the correct Day.
When I tested (very quickly) my tier order for Shun was
Lilitu (Perf) > Gavialis (day) > Dampening (P) > Gavialis (no day)
I didn't factor in Abjuration gear because when I did the test augments weren't known yet. Let's give a quick look at those now.
Some random considerations:
You talked about SHUN, things would be different if you wanted to look for Hi, or to find the best compromise for both
I didn't factor in the set bonus, which does not matter on Shun for Rao/Adhemar, but it matters for Ryuo
Best choices usually have no Acc. I feel like you can't afford to pick all of those, need to draw a line somwhere and if you accept to pick a piece without acc in a certain slot, you'll have to compensate in other slots. Think it's gonna be worth it overall.
It has to be considered that at the moment (things might change in the future) Adhemar/Ryuo HQ aren't very realistic, whereas Rao+1 is much easier and cheaper to get. Rao+1 might be better than Adhemar/Ryuo NQ in several slots.
Sinister Reign offers excellent (altough clearly inferior) to Abjuration pieces for the Head and Legs slots at least. Highly dependant on your luck though.
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