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By wick 2015-04-05 19:26:46
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Hey, anyone using a AMD Radeon HD7900 pcie series with good FPS?

Im having FPS issues around popular area's, Avatars etc anything that glows pretty much. Anyone found a good display driver for FFXI?

Ive got the newest display driver installed but still having problems.

Thanks alot!
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By Pantafernando 2015-04-05 19:37:28
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I cant help with anything as my knowledge with pc is close to zero, but ive always played with a nvidia, and never had much issue. But then when i bought a new pc, aparently the best in store, it was an AMD Radeon R7 M265 Graphics.

I was never so disapointed with a pc. Admitelly probably i messed in some configurations, drivers, etc, but this new pc never worked fine with ffxi, even singleboxing. Even singleboxing i was having lags like if my pc was overheating.

I dont know if its just me, if as my pc problem or if im just too ignorant to adjust acordly the setting to work fine with games, but i never again will buy another AMD...
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By Cerberus.Halticus 2015-04-05 19:55:09
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I'm using an AMD Radeon HD6310 and haven't had any major issues. I did get some serious lag in Reive areas but going into config and turning off animation effects seemed to correct that issue.
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By wick 2015-04-05 20:07:51
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Yeh i had to turn effects off because of geo bubbles and avatars. Somtimes the avatars would glitch on my screen and have cracks through it, i might try screenshot it, either way a graphic problem, terrible fps...
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-05 20:48:16
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What resolution are you running at?

Full screen, windowed, or windower?

Background resolution?

Texture compression?

Fonts, on screen maps?

Bump mapping?

Environmental animation?

Graphics stabilization?

Basically what are your settings at? (FFXI Config)

I use a Radeon 6450 HD Silent (no fan) 2GB ram and everything runs nicely, but you do have to mess around with settings and don't expect to be running at max everything. Biggest mistake people make.
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By wick 2015-04-05 20:55:11
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
What resolution are you running at?

Full screen, windowed, or windower?

Background resolution?

Texture compression?

Fonts, on screen maps?

Bump mapping?

Environmental animation?

Graphics stabilization?

Basically what are your settings at?

I use a Radeon 6450 HD Silent (no fan) 2GB ram and everything runs nicely, but you do have to mess around with settings and don't expect to be running at max everything. Biggest mistake people make.

Windower
I think windower auto does my background resolution which is 1440x900.
bump mapping off, mip mapping none.
ui scale x1.
weather effects off.
Not sure graphics stabilization?
ive tried alot of things while i was lagging to see if i could change it. The only massive change i could make was with shadows and it drop'd from 20-24 to 16~.
What drivers are compatible with Radeon hd7900 series? What driver u running?
Also using windower and also downloading game with steam, i found the ffxi config but does it apply with windower?
What are your settings?
Thnx for help
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By Siren.Demetreos 2015-04-05 21:05:54
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Isn't it more down to the fact that XI doesn't support multicore CPU's, and as such will never run particularly well. I'm getting more or less the same FPS on a GTX750Ti as I did on a HD6670 and my laptop which is some onboard Radeon graphics card.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-05 21:09:03
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I don't use windower, but I use window mode.

I'm sure there are people here who can help with making sure the FFXI config and windower settings sync up properly

My settings are as follows:

Catalyst version 14.4

Gaming -> 3D application settings -> Put as many things on the Use application settings as possible.

Here's my settings for Control Center:



FFXI Config settings:

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By wick 2015-04-05 21:25:17
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Thanx mate, i didnt have graphics stabilization on, ill try now.
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By Jetackuu 2015-04-05 21:27:26
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Siren.Demetreos said: »
Isn't it more down to the fact that XI doesn't support multicore CPU's, and as such will never run particularly well. I'm getting more or less the same FPS on a GTX750Ti as I did on a HD6670 and my laptop which is some onboard Radeon graphics card.
You're going to, there's kind of a cap iirc to the fps in the game.

As for the effects: there's some tricks to bypass the issues with the lag from certain effects, but I don't recall most of them anymore, short of dat swapping.
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By Siren.Demetreos 2015-04-05 21:30:46
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Caps at 60. My point was more that I still get frame drops in the same areas regardless of what modern graphics the game is run on because the game only supports one core.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-04-05 21:58:36
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Siren.Demetreos said: »
Caps at 60. My point was more that I still get frame drops in the same areas regardless of what modern graphics the game is run on because the game only supports one core.

It doesn't even utilize GPU's correctly, you can have just about any graphics setup and you will still drop frame rate when there are a lot of entities on screen or lots of effects because it's essentially emulating PS2 hardware. It becomes even more pronounced if you oversample of uncap the framerate. I run 2 GTX750xi's and it still dips into the low 20's occasionally.

Jetackuu said: »
Siren.Demetreos said: »
Isn't it more down to the fact that XI doesn't support multicore CPU's, and as such will never run particularly well. I'm getting more or less the same FPS on a GTX750Ti as I did on a HD6670 and my laptop which is some onboard Radeon graphics card.
You're going to, there's kind of a cap iirc to the fps in the game.

As for the effects: there's some tricks to bypass the issues with the lag from certain effects, but I don't recall most of them anymore, short of dat swapping.

There's a soft cap of 30FPS but uncapped it still won't exceed 60 because of how it's coded, yeah.
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By wick 2015-04-05 23:14:03
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I'm kinda leaning toward uncapped FPS in busy area's, but i dont think people should be lagging around certain special effects.

If anyone is getting capped FPS in a busy area, please post! Share your settings and drivers!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-05 23:45:00
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Odin.Jassik said: »
It doesn't even utilize GPU's correctly
I think I recall reading something like this when I went to look up how to properly setup modern GPUs with FFXI in Windows 7.
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By wick 2015-04-05 23:56:11
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Ok so going from FF11 being CPU heavy i overclocked the CPU from 3100mhz too 3500mhz. All that happened is the FPS started spikeing up and down. Anyone know why?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 00:01:06
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Overclocking rarely helps with anything other than causing your computer to act funny and overheat.

I wouldn't recommend it as when I first played back in 2004 a single core 2.4Ghz P4 was more than enough to play it.
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By Bismarck.Marmite 2015-04-06 00:38:30
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Yes radeon cards will give this effect at times. Try rolling back the GPU driver. Don't overclock your CPU, unless you need to! Generally speaking you will never need to unless you regularly encode video. FFXI certainly will not require over clocking, unless you have a single core processor from the 90's early 00's...

I would check your PC for malware etc if your cores are spiking. It could also be a GPU driver conflict so worth rolling back to check. Run task manager to see what process(es) are causing your cpu to spike.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-04-06 00:41:40
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
It doesn't even utilize GPU's correctly
I think I recall reading something like this when I went to look up how to properly setup modern GPUs with FFXI in Windows 7.

yeah, it's something along the lines of it using the GPU for only the post processing and still doing most of the rendering on the CPU, because of the way the PS2 architecture worked.
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By wick 2015-04-06 04:01:14
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Cool, thnx guys.
So far im pretty happy, did some tweaks here and there, mip mapping on and some tweaks too the ccc, i still drop 6-7 FPS when it loads alot of people but i think i can get buy, not like the days where 2019323 people where all together in dragons airy anyway...

I tried doing some searches on rendering character models or something for less lag with more people but couldn't find.

The reason for the post was really just too see if anyone else has same graphics card and ran ffxi really well. What drivers they used etc, since SE doesnt support new cards.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2015-04-06 04:26:28
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Overclocking rarely helps with anything other than causing your computer to act funny and overheat.

I wouldn't recommend it as when I first played back in 2004 a single core 2.4Ghz P4 was more than enough to play it.

An unstable overclock maybe. A stable OC has measurable benefits in most applications. XI not as much, its engine chokes on large amounts of data, can't do a lot about it with better or faster hardware.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2015-04-06 05:02:25
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my problem is a little different than OPs, but I figure since a thread has already been started, I may as well ask here.

I use a Radeon R9 200 series and anything involving smoke/dust clouds instantly drops my fps from capped to nearly 1. It was especially noticable in the wotg mission where you had to blow up the walls in the mines, each explosion would legit make my game freeze until the animation stopped. Certain effects like GEO bubbles also drop my fps down to about 15ish, any ideas why this might be? The PC is less than a year old and can run FF14 on max settings for the most part (for some reason only the 3rd heavensfall from T9 would freeze my game momentarily)
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By Asura.Wormfeeder 2015-04-06 06:15:01
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Turn off anti-aliasing,tessalation, and supersampling
This should solve your problem.
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By Asura.Wormfeeder 2015-04-06 06:22:14
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If only they could upgrade DirectX 8 to DirectX 9 in ffxi's software it would solve just about every graphics issue in this game.
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By Asura.Wormfeeder 2015-04-06 06:29:26
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Pantafernando said: »
I cant help with anything as my knowledge with pc is close to zero, but ive always played with a nvidia, and never had much issue. But then when i bought a new pc, aparently the best in store, it was an AMD Radeon R7 M265 Graphics.

I was never so disapointed with a pc. Admitelly probably i messed in some configurations, drivers, etc, but this new pc never worked fine with ffxi, even singleboxing. Even singleboxing i was having lags like if my pc was overheating.

I dont know if its just me, if as my pc problem or if im just too ignorant to adjust acordly the setting to work fine with games, but i never again will buy another AMD...

It isn't the hardware Panta, it is the software in the game. Intel and and processors and amd,nvidia video card all have problems with this game. The computer I built to play this game in 2004 ran ffxi better than the pc i have Now. It's all the software hacks that have been added to the game over the last 11 year's that are the problem.
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