~First And Final Line Of Defense V2.0~

That is a pretty interesring concept that could fit in with PLD lore since SE is so stuck on that. Call it like a blessing or something and make it a trait with a fairly low activation rate.

I would also just be happy with a cooldown reduction on fealty.

I'd like to see it cover the party also, that way PLD can be brought a bit closer to RUN in party wide protection instead of just focusing on themselves. I think it would work great as a trait to, but it wouldn't affect party members in that manner.

I do like fealty, but there are a few things it just doesn't protect again, such as doom. It could go very well hand in hand with fealty covering it's few weaknesses, or add longer lasting protection against statuses also.

Since it started a new page, I'll add my previous page ending post to this one.

To make it fit in with the lore, you could maybe have a job ability that would transfer the beneficial status from you to the party you are trying to protect and give you the ailment. Sacrifice your well being as the holy defender to help your party. It could also be something to generate enmity on the PLD which could also help.

RUNs whole thing is elemental resistance, so them giving out party resistance makes more sense to me than having a job like PLD does. PLD to me is more about taking damage or taking negative statuses instead of the party more than giving resistance to them.

I would like to see PLD take a step back from the undead killer thing though, which would make sepulcher actually be useful.

Edit: Maybe after you transfer to debuffs to yourself, a short resistance could be given to the person you take the effect from?

Rampart is already a party wide protection buff, and is up >1/3 the total duration of a fight if used on CD. Other than that, we have cover, which could use updating, but PLD already has powerful party protection tools. If the mob is undead, you get even more bonuses and party protection.

Aren't most of the relevant endgame mobs Demons? Sepulcher doesn't seem to work on anything useful.

Is a lot of apex undead, really only relevant if you need cp I guess though.

Fomor are undead

If you mean dynamis wave 3 mobs they are not undead.

if i'm not mistaken the last buff was ment to make PLD capable of mainhealing right? lets pretend they can main heal but right now they still have to rely on a main healer for status removal.

PLD will always be behind RUN cause of their inferior dmg output and handling of status debuffs. SE doesn't want to buff PLDs dmg output and magic resistance to prevent the two tank jobs from playing too similar.

what if they gave PLD a way to deal with debuffs without avoiding them? either a spell/ability that can remove them or maybe a passive that increases enmity gain or decreases enmity loss depending on how many debuffs they currently suffer.

that way a PLD setup might be able to ditch the WHM slot for a high utility job or a additional buffer which in turn would make up for PLDs inferior dmg output?

A way to mitigate debuffs is better inline with the 'objective of PLD'. While gaining and maintaining enmity isn't as great as RUNs, combining the two just feels like a weaker gain than if they are tackled as separate issues.

While I think the healing concept is a neat gimmick, I don't think we should be replacing a WHM/SCHs job. Then that begs the question, are we a tank, or a heavy armored healer?

Or just spam SE to nerf RUN? Problem solved. I've been main Rune Fencer for years and I 100% believe it needs nerfed.

I am curious if that will happen, if they pick up the job adjustments again next month, or in the future. Spamming them though won't get anyone, anywhere.

Does anyone have a sample PLD lua for gearswap that they recommend? Right now I'm just using the Kinematics example with my gear plugged in, but I'm trying to find something with a SIRD set implementation, and maybe even a Treasure Hunter toggle if I'm lucky.

I've been trying to modify the Kinematics one, but I don't quite understand how all these defense mode option functions actually work. I see them defined, but I can't find them being called.

Best option, make Aeonic shield block status ailments, if not 100% then extremely high like 90%, kill 2 birds with one stone.

Edit: special effect on shield bash, 20-30 seconds of the same or similar status resistance to party in area of effect.

Unlikely, as Srivatsa is already very powerful in its own right for DD as well as %Null damage, which will likely become extremely powerful if/when empy gets updated.

Except no one brings pld for DD which makes it just a toy, and if they added those status ailment blocking to it pld would still not be doing runlike dmg in a group with it but would be blocking effects to the party and that would add a usefulness to a pld tank over run.

Doesnt matter that no one brings PLD for DD, its what the shield is aimed at. Theyre unlikely to add anything else to it when it doesnt fit the shield's niche, and that its already going to be very over budget power wise if absorb/null becomes a major thing again.

Are there any current pld guides, new to the job and dont know what to focus. The 1st page looks very outdated. Which pieces of AF Relic and empy are relevant and should be focused first?

Ive only recently started gearing the job myself, so might not be the most accurate or best answer, but in general needed sets immediately are your supertank set (not always optimal and generally can do without using every piece, but if you have nothing else it will get your foot in the door for everything), capped SIRD for precast (like 102-105% or so SIRD iirc, 10% from merits rest from gear. Odyssean feet, founders legs and souv head is 70% already, 80% with merits.) Fast cast for precast set for quicker cures and the like. Then you can start figuring out what hybrid sets you want to make and what you want to use for them. Im currently working on getting the odin head and body, as well as arke+1 hands legs and feet for this, see how that goes.

Other than that, aegis is practically required for a lot of things. No real choice around that, as much as i hate meta slaving, though ochain is also really strong in its own right, and im looking forward to getting srivatsa to see how that goes.

Hopefully this helps as a bit of a starting point from where i started off from. If you cant get access to souv +1 gear, arke NQ will work well for general purpose to begin with.

Edit: Oh, and the gear that increases rampart duration, relic head i think? Youll want that 109 and the relic hands +3d for dispel on shield bash. The head immediately, the hands after the above probably. Not as important but necessary eventually.

I suppose the info i need is the pecking order for +2 and +3 AF as well as relic +3 order. Is the +1 souv set the best stuff. What are the bis?

Af+3 body is awesome

Af body should probably be the priority

Af feet are good as well. The rest is meh imo

Relic head and feet for sentinel and rampart

Hands specifically for the recent reduction of the shield bash timer. Some courtesy stun/dispel at a higher rate is nice.

Get a +1 souv set, C path it, that will be base for your HP set. A good rule of thumb is for your HP set and any macros associated with it to hover around 3k HP, that way you don't dump HP constantly.

For AF, body is a top priority, FC, Enmity, and DT on one piece, plus Divine skill. Relic head, hands, feet for Rampart, Shield Bash, Sentinel, priority to head and feet. Empy head if for some reason you don't have Carmine (Should really have Carmine), otherwise feet for Divine Emblem. Nothing else is really needed.

Martel's sets are good if you are just starting off, but it doesn't look like he's added any of the augment-able UCNM items to his sets yet. I myself haven't really looked through them either so if you need further advice on that I'll take a look.

So which would be fulltime'd the +3 body or the +1 souv body?

Up to you, I always preferred 4/5 Souve+1 and AF+3 Body

I have 2 Souvereign Bodies, Path C and D.

Path C is to idle/engage in to maintain a high max HP, which is used to calculate the rate at which enmity decays.

Path D is the same situation but when my MP is below 50%, I like to equip this body for Refresh+3.

I currently have a Flyssa+1. What should I be looking at as my next upgrade(s)? Currently only Su1.

Edit: Primarily low-man with trusts, so looking for more DPS.

I find myself never needing the refresh on the souv. body, besides I have a perfect jumalik if I absolutely need some refresh. The HP and Fast cast on the AF+3 body really seals the deal for me, although the accuracy on souv. body is nice too. Make both and have multiple sets is my recommendation, unless PLD is a backburner job for you.

Excalibur, or Naegling are the cheapest and easiest to make. If you can do the Lilith HTBF the Malignance sword could serve as a replacement while you work on one of those two, otherwise Claidheamh Soluis is a good fall back option, you just have to play the random augment game and go for Attack/Accuracy, DA, DMG+ (will cap at 161 DMG).

Get a Claidemh Soluis, then I highly recommend making Naegling as soon as you can. It's a very good option for most jobs that can use it.