~First And Final Line Of Defense V2.0~

It'll be very evident when I start doing dual boxing job points on PLD, my WHM mule is capped and I have decided to let her reach 200 stored job points, as a result it will either be 23% vs 5% and she'll get more but not hugely more CP, or it will be 140% vs 5% and she'll get more than double what my PLD gets.

They're additive. I think it was on the DRK forum here where it was shown... I remember DRK being involved with the testing...

It's just that, outside of 2x campaign, capacity points are so ***that a 7% increase is just 7pts. (Obvious hyperbole is obvious, but you get the idea.)

They were also multiplicative with other bonuses iirc... Which I found weird.
Iirc it was: base*(2x)*(gift total+rieves+bounty+cheer)*(cape)*kupofried*dedication
...
Maybe cape was added with gifts, rieves, bounty, and cheer... But... I can't remember.

If you happen know where the test post is and can link it so I can bookmark it for when I forget this again that'd be great. <,<;;

If not, I'll go dig for it later. Just knowing it's here on AH and in the DRK forums narrows the search down a lot.

Just did Svaha dual box THF + WHM it wasn't too bad, has a very high amount of fast cast and it's spells can hit hard, especially with the magic def down debuff but you're really in no danger from physical attacks, all the mobs can't hit for ***.

Also it favours thunder magic, oh and my great reward was a Chrysoberyl

Go barthunder and a high magic evasion set, maybe?

Would recommend barthunder definitely, didn't bother with a specific MDT MEva set but it can't hurt.

Question regarding PLD and TP sets.
Does Damage Mitigation sets not give you enough ACC/TP build to full time?

How would I go about switching with GS mid fights. Never looked into that or understood.

Yorium pieces are all able to give 4 PDT and 25 accuracy augments so 4/5 of them + another body like reforged empy would be a good start.

As for swapping midfights, the command to manually swap armour in a macro would be /console gs equip sets.defense.PDT or whatever your PDT set is called.

Cheers, was wondering for swapping. When would be an appropriate time to switch from TP to PDT and back again? I assumed you'd always want to mitigate damage to the most of your ability. Little dense when it comes to PLD.

Is there any alternative to Xaddi Boots? Not that I can't get them or upgrade just curious to save money on Airlixirs.

Well, if you want to swap in PDT the situations I'd say are if you see a strong physical TP move coming in, if you're in low HP or if you have some sort of status like HP down or temporary weakness.

For a lot of fights, notably high-tier battlefields I full-time PDT, in those situations having a hybrid PDT-Acc set can do wonders as your generic PDT pieces tend to lack accuracy, our reforged AF and Relic are notable for not really having DD friendly stats.

Alternative to Xaddi, in regard to PDT? Looking at the augments there is Yorium but to get the augments required, you'll probably blow more gil than upgrading Xaddi with Airlixirs. Gorney Sollerets +1 should fit the bill as a cheap alternative.

Got it, cheers for that. A little clarity on that front.

I'm assuming you wouldn't need a Hybrid-MDT set, just switch when you see something in particular going off? (In the case of just a single target)

I'll get the boots then, I tried looking but didn't think there was any other options minus Yorium that would suffice.

I was always under the Impression that, PDT/MDT capped at -50% is it different in the case of PLD specifically? A lot of sets have way over cap and just assumed you could cap MDT with Aegis alone.

The cap is 50% in gear, Aegis MDT goes over the cap, like Burtgang goes over the 50% PDT cap. So with Aegis you only have to wear 37.5% MDT in gear, which with a fully buffed Shellra 5 gives 29.2% MDT so in those situations you'd only need 8.3% in gear.

As for PDT it's impossible as of now to hit the 87.5% cap outside of Abyssea Atmas so you'd always need to gear 50% to reach the cap. If sets are over the cap people are just being inefficient.

As for Hybrid-MDT, there are probably a few niche situations, struggling to think of any, there's no harm to making a MDT-Acc set but you probably won't get much use out of it, generally you can just swap in for strong nukes/Magical TP moves.

If you want one of those niche hybrid MDT situations, I use one for dualboxing D avatars. They spam magic damage so constantly, that hitting a MDT macro for ever WS gets really old. And there's enspell/spike dmg constantly anyway.

And since D fights are a pretty major DPS check for PLD, I want to maintain as much DPS as possible. Swapping to full MDT sets constantly is a hit to that.

But while I call it a hybrid MDT set, it's really just my TP set with D ring and Engulfer+1 slapped over it. Plus Aegis. <,<

For MDT, can I wear 49/50$ gear and still hit cap with Aegis, or does it only go over cap and into effect when you have dead on 50?

It's just X% that goes over 50. So if your value + Aegis happens to go over 50%, it'll go there, it won't be capped to 50% like when you use XDT I items. It breaks the cap.
You have 20% MDT in gear + Aegis? That's 70%
You have 50% MDT in gear and add a new piece that pushes you to 54% but Aegis isn't part of your gear? That's still 50% (it would still count as 0 if Aegis was here, though, Aegis is the only item that allows you to go above 50% so you shouldn't gather normal gear that go over the cap, whether you're stuck with the 50% no Aegis cap or the 87 or so % with Aegis).

This is why, when you own an Aegis and receive Shell (so all the time), you won't have 50% MDT in gear (not counting Aegis). This is also why it allows to use DT (smaller values, but useful in case you also take physical damage) efficiently, and why MDB is important where you won't get MDT.

ItemSet 333751

This set in the OP helps understanding this.

That set actually makes no sense, assuming perfect augments on Cizin, you're at 100% MDT before shell when the cap is 87.5%

I was wondering the same thing hence why I asked, I opted to switch out Tartarus since I don't have it (probably wont get either) for AF body. Drop Cizin legs and earrings so I sit at 89%

I use this set actually on Pluton:
ammo="Vanir Battery",
head="Chev. Armet +1",
body="Tartarus Platemail",
hands="Chev. Gauntlets +1",
legs="Chev. Cuisses +1",
feet="Chev. Sabatons +1",
neck="Warder's Charm +1",
waist="Creed Baudrier",
left_ear="Etiolation Earring",
right_ear="Sanare Earring",
left_ring="Vocane Ring",
right_ring="Defending Ring",
back="Engulfer Cape +1"}

It's not a matter of making sense in the value but in the concept.
His answer is answered simply by looking at this set.

Yeah, MDB everywhere.

The other set is outdated/not matching every situations.

I have decided to try and make a proper PDT-Acc working with what I can get for now, just wonder if I could get some critique.

ItemSet 333221

That is currently a 46% set, the certain things that I wondered were:

1) Am I dropping too much defence using Emet Harness +1? Using either Rev +1 or Cab +1 would increase my PDT at the cost of no accuracy, obviously missing a D Ring right now and legs have no accuracy, an alternative I would imagine is Yorium but don't have a pair augmented right now.

what is u'r curent Accu with this equipement ?

Haven't used it, just speculating while bored at work, I was going to probably piece it together when I get home tonight.

ok is see, like you know isn't the best set but i think that can work pretty well like this
try to get JSE back ASAP ;)

Ah right it has accuracy, hmm yeah I should use that.

For some reason the Nodes/Item sets aren't shown in the forums anymore, is that a general problem? All I see is "ItemSet 333221".

Also, when using /BLU, what are the spells to use other than Coccoon and Blank Gaze? I mean, I don't reach the 30pts when I pick situational spells so, maybe I'm missing a few.

and actually to add to that list, Geist Wall is also decent for getting hate on multiple monsters if you're not supertanking. You could also set MAB if you're using Sanguine Blade at all.

Made my Accuracy PDT set, much regret, it looks ugly as sin. Never been arsed with lockstyle but I may have to make an exception.

Thanks.

And indeed, Blank Gaze recast is so low, it's incredible.

Lockstyle is life.

I have like 5 sets mixing 75 gear, things like Ighwa helm are so ugly.

i try Svaha to get Kahin Turban
0/3 on PLD
0/19 on THF TH10+ each time
i only focus on Svaha and i never kill Meeble Scribes did i need to defeat Meeble Scribes to hope see an Kahin Turban drop ?

There's no need to kill the meebles.

All you can do is keep trying.