Killer Instinct: The Beastmaster Compendium

Oh thanks. Not sure if I didn't notice it or if it was just lag/latency on my end.

Pretty psyched that BST can do this. I try telling groups that seem to struggle with clears but it hasn't caught on yet :)

BST is seriously one of the most amazing jobs to bring to Dyna-D. And it's not hard to fit in. You can either put beastmaster in a physical DD party, a magical DD party, or put it in the tank party. Running a tank pt of- tank tank WHM BST SMN GEO is about the safest and easiest way to clear.

A couple of things to add to the thread:

Beastmaster is quite good for Odyssey segment farm (or NMs) but particularly segments. Coordinate with your tank and bard to put ATK/DEF down on mobs and it's a noticeable increase in damage/decrease in incoming damage. Dancer doesn't have the ability to tag an entire pack with defense down when each mob dies in two weapon skills, and it doesn't take as much from our melee dps to apply. I did about 2/3 the top dps in the run and I had JA lockout from Fight command since my QA-based TP sets have lower accuracy so I engaged with pet on everything for the accuracy bonus. We replace GEO in this event, I think, for melee strats.

Iron giant NMs in Ambuscade this month are subject to Purulent Ooze, which I found to my surprise as I wiped our group lol.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/51608/dev-tracker-discussion/195/#3569307

If the augments are the same across the board, this might be the hybrid set to actually work.

70 Acc/Macc for the pet, and 5% damage. Wonder what that means.

The problems here is that you're restricting all jobs gear to just pet gear. And getting your pet to hit pDif cap.

Still, if you can manage that with your pet their white damage might become somewhat respectable.

One would have a difficult time even considering going pet aug as you can only have one piece. Even before considering sinking ~2 months into the augment of said piece after.

Begs the question, how much better would that piece have to be to put it even in the realm of thinking about it over the other options.

I wasn't around for the ASA AMK ACP choice, This is much bigger in scope than those were.

I already told you BSTs and PUPs will still consider D and you was thinking Im crazy :P

Pretty sure they definitely won't

(well, consider for a half a second, ok, sure, won't take though) Unique, obviously good option, but the cost is too high. Usability to low.

Eh, I dunno. My outlook on this is thus: I have various other sources of gear I own that allow me to achieve effects in regards to WSD, TP gain, and MBB. Sure, this option might be strictly superior in any one of those choices, but the pet damage piece is effectively unique. So I'm going to go for the piece that gives me something I can't get anywhere else.

The only hang up there would be how my other jobs feel about the piece, but even then, BST first.

I mean I could see the appeal of 5% more pet damage for 2 jobs if you REALLY play them. Like actually exclusively. A strictly pup/bst account with zero aspirations of using anything else. I feel like that person may not have a great time getting RP though.

But at the cost of 9WSD for all 22 jobs.

Unless you had 10wsd DM augs for all 22... (or an AF/relic piece) and even then the base stats+9% is probably better than herc/ody/valor w/ 10%

I think you really dont understand some people prioritize jobs like Shamgi. ITs also not that white and black like you suggest. Someone can have MNK BST PUP DRK for example and those legs with path B still have almost no use for any of those jobs beside maybe storetp legs for Liberator, but thats assuming you have Liberator and not focusing on Caldbolg for example, because than Sakpata is better. Path B wsd being poor stat vs multi attack for h2h WSs and DRK having 10%wsd on relic and Ratri and having Sakpata beating every other option at attack cap. Its not for BST account only. You can have combo of jobs that doesnt really care about path A or B because its not bis for them or its bis by so small margin that its not better for them than 5% pet damage and bis pet macc.

EDIT: I kidna ignored that path B are kinda amazing for BST magic WSs and really good for Mistral/Calamity, but then its personal decision what you prefer on BST and if you even use thoses WSs. Its also possible that if you prioritize BST, you already have some good WSD augment for legs.

If said person came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth doing another option for another job, they're unlikely to come to the conclusion that capping the aug is worth doing in general.

Still waiting for a falkirk or a xilkk to weigh in.

but why? :) I can understand your argument if some person really playing 22 jobs, but if you play several jobs that doesnt really benefit that much from other paths or benefit a lot but you are not interested in playing melee WHM, then why not path D?

It's just the logic of the scenario. 5% pet damage is nothing when it has to be weighed against something else.

Even if it were pet damage 100% it'd be a tough sell.

Then if you can get past that part, it's a use case problem. How often are you doing pet only, and/or a time where 5% more pet damage matters. extremely niche. On it's own yeah, absolutely, until you have to measure it against other stuff.

Its extremely niche vs extremely niche or useless if you play several jobs that wont really need A or B. So its pretty even. Also if that would be 100% pet damage I would take that without even thinking and I play like 15 jobs. It would be completely broken for SMN and PUP and potentially also for BST.

Well, the stat being DMG +5% rather than Damage means it's not nearly as good.

Plus, three of them are just all stats +5, which feels really, really small.

Ah well.

That path d feels like an insult. Honestly just Odyssey overall has not been the designed with pets in mind. They aren't getting 6k segments like other jobs. So it will take them twice the time to augment. The restrictions in goal punish pet parties since there's just 3 of them. Yet smn BP nerf still in effect, when you cant bring more then 1.

With the introduction of this gearset. They just gave everyone a malignance tier tp set. Including mages finally have an amazing tp set when they had nothing before. Literally a new playstyle made viable if they choose to grind.
The other option is basically perfect Oseem dark matter WSD augments loaded with other stats including alot of defense.

On the pet side they get stats +5 or dmg+5%. Having that set wont change anything. Won't make anything happen that couldn't before. Its not even good for smn. Nearly every other stat on the bloated armor piece is wasted because it doesn't affect pet. Up to year of grinding needed to get these augments too if we are talking pet only mains farming segments.

Thats the most illogical and self limiting sentence I have read this week at least.

BST being pet job IS NOT LIMITED to only party with other pet jobs to farm segments or kill NMs lol...

You can farm 6k segments on BST too, just play a DD role and give glorious -33def/att debuff. Its not SE thats limiting or insulting you. You are doing it to yourself..

I'm a PUP main but the point is the same.

Those willing to grind for months for pet augments on the new set over the other overpowered augments are probably those who do play ffxi for a pet playstyle gameplay over the other options.

Yes the solution to these trash pet augments and pet restrictions in segment farming and Gaol. Is to just quit the pet playstyle and switch to a DD playstyle and to other jobs. These new sets have been great for that.
At the end of the day though. Why grind for path d augments when you can’t even use that set in the same content.
I'm just done with ffxi for now since I don’t enjoy that.

Who are the brave souls who will path D this new gear and test to see how potent the pet damage % augment is?


I get his point though that pet strats are not really viable on at least the segment farm part of Odyssey. Melee beast with the slug is good for the segment farm portion for sure. And you can use pets on some of the bosses (I haven't tried on higher difficulties) but the nerf to SMN in the content feels very unnecessary. BST you can bring and it works very well since geomancy is nerfed but even then there's the itemization problem with no subjob and no good master melee or pet DD shields for us. That should have been addressed long ago.

S-E doesn't know how to balance around pets, has become quite clear. Even these new augments assume pet is at capped attack to make path D good since they have no pet attack, only accuracy! And pet attributes, for beast where S-E still hasn't given our Ready moves true stat scaling, is rather absurd.

Personally I'm going path A. TP set for BST and DRG. Even 10% pet damage is not enough, and S-E clearly wants beastmasters to focus on master dps at this point unfortunately.

Smn doesnt look like nerfed in Gaol? For example only good strategy for V15 Tree includes SMN doing damage below 50%.

Conduit nerfed... yeah. But pacts have enough cooldown and you can only use one smn so the bp nerf that exists should be null.

I think its any repeated BP within 10 seconds either from Conduit or Apogee will be reduced by 90%.

A month of effort for Pet Stats +5 though. Per piece.
That's if you're doing max Veng.
*insert clown emoji here*

Path D just doesn't seem worth it to me. Now the +5% damage, maybe for testing. But not the +5 to stats.

It's not all doom and gloom- Path B should close the gap between Aymur with Mistral Axe and Doli with Decimation a bit, yeah, sticking with Malignance as TP gear? Or will mix-and-match with Gleti's and that PDL still be better for Mistral Axe?

Hare Familiar

Ready Move Charge Cost Description Damage Type Base Damage Multiplier Foot Kick 1 Deals physical damage. Critical hit rate varies with TP. DMG x 11 Dust Cloud 1 Deals Earth damage to enemies within a fan-shaped area originating from pet. Additional effect: Blindness (Accuracy-50 for 45sec). Damage varies with TP. (Level+2) x 9 Whirl Claws 1 Deals area damage within range of pet. Area of effect varies with TP (15'-17' Radius). DMG x 9 Wild Carrot 2 Restores HP of all party members within area of effect (10' Radius). HP restored varies with TP. -

Level	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35
Accuracy	79	82	85	89	92	96	99	102	106	109	113	116	119	123	126
Attack	87	90	93	96	100	103	107	110	114	127	131	134	137	140	144
Evasion	73	75	78	82	85	88	91	94	97	101	104	106	110	113	116
Defense	110	112	115	121	124	127	132	135	138	144	147	149	155	158	161
Melee Min.	140	144	152	156	160	168	172	180	184	188	192	196	204	208	212
Melee Max.	147	151	159	163	168	176	180	189	193	197	201	205	214	218	222
DMG:	35	36	38	39	40	42	43	45	46	47	48	49	51	52	53

Dust Cloud:

N/A

N/A

225

234

243

252

261

270

279

288

297

306

315

324

333

Sheep Familiar

Ready Move Charge Cost Description Damage Type Base Damage Multiplier Lamb Chop 1 Deals physical damage. Damage varies with TP. DMG x 11 Rage 2 Enhances pet's attacks but weakens its defense, as well as master's if in area of effect. Duration varies with TP. (Attack+60%, Defense-60%, 6~9 min) - Sheep Charge 1 Deals physical damage. Damage varies with TP. DMG x 11 Sheep Song 2 Puts all enemies within range of pet to sleep (45 sec). Area of effect varies with TP (15'-17' Radius). -

Level	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35
Accuracy	78	81	84	88	91	94	98	101	104	108	111	114	118	121	124
Attack	88	91	95	98	102	105	109	112	116	129	133	136	139	143	146
Evasion	73	75	78	82	85	88	91	94	97	101	104	106	110	113	116
Defense	110	112	115	121	124	127	132	135	138	144	147	149	155	158	161
Melee Min.	144	148	152	160	164	172	176	180	188	192	196	200	208	212	216
Melee Max.	151	155	159	168	172	180	184	189	197	201	205	210	218	222	226
DMG:	36	37	38	40	41	43	44	45	47	48	49	50	52	53	54

Crab Familiar & Courier Carrie

Ready Move Charge Cost Description Damage Type Base Damage Multiplier Bubble Shower 1 Deals Water damage to enemies within area of effect (15' Radius). Additional effect: STR down (STR-9 for 3min, decays). Area of effect varies with TP. (Level+2) x 9 Bubble Curtain 3 Enhances pet's magic defense as well as master's if in area of effect. (MDT-50% effect) Duration of effect varies with TP. - Big Scissors 1 Deals physical damage. Critical hit rate varies with TP. DMG x 11 Scissor Guard 2 Enhances pet's defense as well as master's if in area of effect. (DEF+100%) Duration of effect varies with TP (1min ~ 3min). - Metallic Body 1 Gives the effect of "Stoneskin," as well as master if in area of effect. Duration of effect varies with TP. -

Level	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40
Accuracy	76	79	82	85	89	92	95	99	102	105	109	112	115	118	122	125	128	132	135	138
Attack	86	89	92	96	99	103	106	110	113	117	120	123	127	130	133	137	140	143	147	150
Evasion	69	71	74	77	80	84	86	89	92	95	99	101	104	107	111	114	116	120	123	126
Defense	122	124	129	133	138	142	146	149	155	170	176	178	182	187	191	196	199	202	208	211
Melee Min.	140	144	148	156	160	168	172	176	180	188	192	196	200	204	212	216	220	224	236	240
Melee Max.	147	151	155	163	168	176	180	184	189	197	201	205	210	214	222	226	231	235	247	252
DMG:	35	36	37	39	40	42	43	44	45	47	48	49	50	51	53	54	55	56	59	60

Bubble Shower:

N/A

N/A

225

234

243

252

261

270

279

288

297

306

315

324

333

342

351

360

369

378

Tiger Familiar

Ready Move Charge Cost Description Damage Type Base Damage Multiplier Roar 2 Paralyzes all enemies withing range of pet (10' Radius). Duration varies with TP (1min15sec ~ 2min). - Razor Fang 1 Deals physical damage. Damage varies with TP. DMG x 11 Claw Cyclone 1 Deals physical damage to enemies within a fan-shaped area originating from pet. Damage varies with TP. DMG x 9 Crossthrash 2 Deals physical damage to enemies in a fan-shaped area in front of the pet. Additional effect: Dispel. DMG x 16 Predatory Glare 2 Stuns enemies within a fan-shaped area originating from pet (20' distance, Gaze). -

Level	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40
Accuracy	96	99	102	106	109	113	116	119	123	126	130	133	136	140	143
Attack	104	108	111	114	128	131	134	138	141	145	148	152	155	159	162
Evasion	88	91	94	97	101	104	106	110	113	116	120	122	125	129	132
Defense	127	132	135	138	144	147	149	155	158	161	167	169	172	178	181
Melee Min.	168	176	180	184	188	196	200	204	208	212	220	224	228	236	240
Melee Max.	176	184	189	193	197	205	210	214	218	222	231	235	239	247	252
DMG:	42	44	45	46	47	49	50	51	52	53	55	56	57	59	60

Funguar Familiar

Ready Move Charge Cost Description Damage Type Base Damage Multiplier Frogkick 1 Delivers an attack that ignores target's defense. Amount ignored varies with TP. DMG x 7 Spore 1 Paralyzes an enemy. Duration of effect varies with TP (4min40sec ~ 9min). - Queasy- shroom 2 Deals Dark damage. Additional effect: Poison. (31 dmg/tic) Duration of effect varies with TP (4min40sec ~ 9min). DMG x 13 Numb- shroom 2 Deals Dark damage. Additional effect: Paralysis. Duration of effect varies with TP (3min35sec ~ 7min20sec). DMG x 13 Shake- shroom 2 Deals Dark damage. Additional effect: Disease. Duration of effect varies with TP (13min40sec ~ 35min30sec). DMG x 13 Silence Gas 3 Deals Dark damage to enemies within a fan-shaped area originating from pet. Additional effect: Silence. Duration of effect varies with TP (30sec ~ 2min). (Level+2) x 17 Dark Spore 3 Deals Dark damage to enemies within a fan-shaped area originating from pet. Additional effect: Blindness. (ACC-30) Duration of effect varies with TP (3min10sec ~ 8min5sec). (Level+2) x 17

Level	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40
Accuracy	111	114	118	121	124	128	131	134	138	141
Attack	133	136	139	143	146	150	153	156	160	163
Evasion	104	106	110	113	116	120	122	125	129	132
Defense	147	149	155	158	161	167	169	172	178	181
Melee Min.	196	200	208	212	216	220	228	232	240	244
Melee Max.	205	210	218	222	226	231	239	243	252	256
DMG:	49	50	52	53	54	55	57	58	60	61

Silence Gas:	561	578	595	612	629	646	663	680	697	714
Dark Spore:	561	578	595	612	629	646	663	680	697	714

I've been doing some Pet DMG testing for the past couple weeks, and have some things to report.

Some parsing for the initial tier of Tandem Strike:
Tandem Strike I = Accuracy+10


This is a work in progress, but I've got some of the 1000 TP multipliers grouped for physical Ready moves.

Group Multiplier Physical Ready Moves 1 DMG x 6 Grapple, Pentapeck, Sweeping Gouge 2 DMG x 7 Frogkick, Double Claw 3 DMG x 8 Spinning Top 4 DMG x 9 Whirl Claws, Claw Cyclone, Cyclotail 5 DMG x 11 Foot Kick, Lamb Chop, Sheep Charge, Big Scissors, Head Butt, Wild Oats, Razor Fang, Tail Blow, Blockhead, Brain Crush, Nimble Snap, Power Attack, Rhino Attack, Mandibular Bite 6 DMG x 13 Queasyshroom, Numbshroom, Shakeshroom 7 DMG x 16 Crossthrash 8 DMG x 18 Swooping Frenzy

More groups will appear as testing continues (looking at weird ones like Fluid Toss, Rhinowrecker, etc).


There is now!

Level 119 Lizard Fireball - 2689
Level 120 Lizard Fireball - 2731

iLvl 120:
w/MAB+66 & Run Wild: 4572
w/MAB+91: 4572

So Pet:MAB+34 at level 120 (That's +2 more MAB compared to level 119). The rest of the Level-by-Level breakdown is here.

In addition to receiving more Pet:MAB via Gleti's Boots (and more Pet:INT for those Magical Ready moves with a dINT component), the base damage formula is impacted by Pet Level.

Group Multiplier Magical Ready Moves 1 (Level+2) x 9 Dust Cloud, Bubble Shower, Cursed Sphere, Venom, Fireball 2 (Level+2) x 17 Dark Spore, Silence Gas

So for level 99 Bubble Shower with 20 Ready Damage+ Job Points:
floor((101 * 9) * 1.2) = 1090



While I can't specifically endorse Nyame Mail and Nyame Flanchard augment Path D, maybe we can understand a bit more about what this Pet:DMG+10% could mean for those who are interested.


A combination of all our possible Pet:Level+ and Pet:DMG+ gear from Sheol Gaol should give our pets the physical damage capabilities of being Level 145.
Physical Ready damage will be improved by ~17% total.

If anyone finishes these augments, it would be super swell if they could double-check that they get the 764~802 melee damage range. Thanks. c:

Yo guys! Been getting very invested in learning beast master. I’m going through the forums to try and pick up as much knowledge as I can, but still had a few questions I’d love if someone could set me straight on.
On playing bst in groups should I think about it like playing a normal DD where I have my pet as an extra source of damage/enfeebles/buffs?
What REMA should I be looking at as an endgame goal. If the empy or mythic what WS should be my go too dps in burn situations where physical would beat out the magical ws that go with those weapons, after AM 3 is up of course.
What ring do I want from SoA? The pet ring looks great but if what I’ve been reading here is true most of the damage is master right? So would the right choice be the ring to boost Primal Rend?
What pet does everyone find themselves using in group content a bunch? I see how the slug is great for a debuffer and the red cat is a great way to get close to max attack, but wanted to get a consensus.
Thanks for any feedback!

As far as REMAs go, Aymur is far and away the best. Relic I keep looking at but has it's own issues, Empy we mostly lack the gear to make the AM worth it, and Aeonic's WS is fairly bad.

Really though, a big sort of issue is that in terms of pure master DPS, Doli is top dog, and it doesn't interact with the pet at all. Though again, the new Ody gear does a lot to help out Aymur. Good luck getting it augmented though.

When you're in a party, 90% of the time you're a debuffer who also provides a decent amount of melee damage. We're one of the strongest debuffers in the game outside of GEO, and GEO gets nerfed really hard in some conent, which makes us more valuable. Your per provides the debuffs, you provide the damage.

In burn situations where you can use 1HRs, you're also capable of stacking a pretty extensive amount of self buffs on yourself. Using Unleash and several of the pets can result in you having 80% bonus attack, 50% bonus defense, 25 MDB, 25 counter, a chance to guard as a non-monk, all at once.

SoA ring I personally use the light damage ring, but my W3 group also focuses on magic damage, so it's of good benefit to me. The pet ring is nice, but I've mostly found myself no longer needing it too much.

I use the slug for the 10% HP down and DEF down, or the bird for the 25%/-25 MDB. Other pets are useful based in situation, so I try and keep access to all of them.

BST Physical Ready Move fTP Anchors

Ready Move 1000 TP 2000 TP 3000 TP Foot Kick 11 Whirl Claws 9 Big Scissors 11 Tail Blow 11 22.5 26 Blockhead 11 22.5 26 Brain Crush 11 22.5 26 Sensilla Blades 11 22.5 26 Tegmina Buffet 18 36.625 41.875 Lamb Chop 11 22.5 26 Sheep Charge 11 22.5 26 Swooping Frenzy 18 Pentapeck 6 Recoil Dive 11 22.5 26 Frogkick 7 Queasyshroom 13 Numbshroom 13 Shakeshroom 13 Nimble Snap 11 22.5 26 Cyclotail 9 18.2 21 Somersault 7 13.9 16 Tickling Tendrils 3 5.3 6 Sweeping Gouge 6 11.75 13.5 Grapple 6 11.75 13.5 Double Claw 7 13.9 16 Spinning Top 8 15.7 17.8 Suction 11 22.5 26

Ready Move 1000 TP 2000 TP 3000 TP Tortoise Stomp 11 22.5 26 Power Attack 11 Rhino Attack 11 22.5 26 Razor Fang 11 22.5 26 Claw Cyclone 9 18.2 21 Crossthrash 16 Scythe Tail 11 22.5 26 Ripper Fang 11 22.5 26 Chomp Rush 9.34 Pecking Flurry 3.5 6.375 7.25 Sickle Slash 11 Mandibular Bite 11 22.5 26 Wing Slap 3.39 6.03 6.75 Beak Lunge 11 22.5 26 Spiral Spin 11 Sudden Lunge 11 22.5 26 Head Butt 11 22.5 26 Wild Oats 11 22.5 26 Disembowel 7 13.9 16 Extirpating Salvo 11 22.5 26 Mega Scissors 16 Rhinowrecker 17 33.25 38.5 Back Heel 11 22.5 26 Hoof Volley 26 Fluid Toss 3.75 5.59 7.45 Fluid Spread 5.5 7.8 10

Now that we have level 120 Pets... instead of testing every Ready move to figure out the average damage dealt, efforts have been refocused on determining the core fTP anchors. With these values we can get the Ready damage range for any level or any Pet:DMG rating. So, for example, capped attack Razor Fang at 3000 TP with level 119 BlackbeardRandy and max Ready Damage+ Job Points: (BST Pet pDIF caps at 4.0) DMG = 162 Base Ready Damage = floor(DMG × fTP) = floor(162 × 26) = 4212 Pre-randomizer Ready Damage = floor(BaseDMG × ReadyJobPoints × pDIF) = floor(4212 × 1.2 × 4) = 20217 So we'll see a range of 20217~21227 damage for this Ready move.

Some of the values are quite high compared to what we're accustomed to seeing with player WS fTP values,
but it's likely to compensate for the lack of WSC on Pet Ready Moves.


Looking back on this, they all seem to hover around ~40 fTP when multi-hit procs come into play. Neat!

BST Ranged Ready Move fTP Anchors

(BST Pet Ranged pDIF caps at 3.0).

Ready Move	1000 TP	2000 TP	3000 TP
Leaf Dagger	11	22.5	26
Needle Shot	11	22.5	26

Tests have shown that the Pet:Melee DMG+ from Agwu's Axe has no effect on these two attacks,
and it's yet to be seen if Nyame Armor's augments will increase Ranged DMG.

The only way to figure out a pet's Ranged DMG stat is from using one of these attacks, so it
wasn't possible to completely map out the Item Level values. But we got most of'em:

Mandragora Ranged Damage by iLvl Level Minimum Maximum Melee DMG Ranged DMG 99 464 487 DMG:116 rDMG:135 100 500 525 DMG:125 rDMG:151 101 500 525 DMG:125 rDMG:151 102 504 529 DMG:126 rDMG:152 103 508 533 DMG:127 rDMG:153 104 105 516 541 DMG:129 rDMG:155 106 520 546 DMG:130 rDMG:156 107 524 550 DMG:131 rDMG:157 108 528 554 DMG:132 rDMG:158 109 532 558 DMG:133 rDMG:159 110 111 536 562 DMG:134 rDMG:160 112 113 544 571 DMG:136 rDMG:162 114 548 575 DMG:137 rDMG:163 115 552 579 DMG:138 rDMG:164 116 117 560 588 DMG:140 rDMG:166 118 564 592 DMG:141 rDMG:167 119 568 596 DMG:142 rDMG:168 120 572 600 DMG:143 rDMG:169

How does Purulent Ooze interact with monsters that change behavior at certain percentages?

Like, let's say you have a mob with 1M HP and uses a specific move at 50%. If you keep Purulent Ooze on, will it use the move at 500k or 450k HP remaining?