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UK bill to allow genetic modifications of embryos.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-03 14:13:44
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I just don't see a realistic downside.

But I'm in favor of a lot of reproductive restrictions and requirements that most people aren't, soooo...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-03 14:28:58
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I don't have a problem with this... necessarily. There are practical applications for mothers with mitochondrial defects. Like almost any useful science, though, it's only a matter of time before someone manages to do something stupid with it.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-02-03 14:31:01
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
it's only a matter of time before someone manages to do something stupid with it.
Can't wait!
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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:31:20
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So having women with three breasts is out of the question ?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-03 14:32:19
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
it's only a matter of time before someone manages to do something stupid with it.
Can't wait!

Well, at least it could be interesting, whatever it is. I guess that's something.
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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:33:39
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Can we genetically modify SE to be a competent company ?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-03 14:36:05
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fonewear said: »
Can we genetically modify SE to be a competent company ?

Let's not move this thread into the territory of science fiction, Fone. There are certain things that science simply cannot do.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-03 14:36:21
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Can we genetically modify SE to be a competent company ?
I think it's too late for that.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-02-03 14:38:31
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fonewear said: »
So having women with three breasts is out of the question ?

It's not out of the question. But technically, neither is having a man with three breasts.
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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:38:58
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Scientists have been playing or wanting to play God for a long time.

Bring on the unforeseen consequences !

First up racism gene !
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-03 14:39:41
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Ramyrez said: »
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Atomic weapons will look like a walk through the park compared to the potential of human engineering and A.I

I have no problems with human engineering; I'm not certain why people would. Being able to do away with congenital defects, genetic abnormalities and other such undesirable things?

Look, I'm not saying people with Downs Syndrome, for instance, don't deserve to live. But what if we could detect that and correct it prior to birth? Is that really a bad thing?

Im concerned about artificial life and the potential for that life to far surpass organic life or outright get out of human control.

Such things as the singularity and A.I becoming self-aware are less of a fantasy than we'd think considering the exponential growth of technology. I'm not suggesting Terminator or any of the post-apocalyptic scenarios often thrown around media but we've got a population of surplus humans and tossing superior mechanical life into that opens the field to far more terrifying scenarios than curing people of diseases.

Unless you subscribe to the idea that we'll be uploading brains within a 150 years and humanity is destined to shed its organic trappings to live in technoorganic bliss.
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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:40:54
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Before we get to AI ruining society can we get high speed internet outside of the major cities ?

Upload a brain I can't even download porn at a reasonable rate !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-03 14:40:58
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Also, I think I read that the mitochondrial DNA doesn't affect things like appearance and personality, so it's not like we're going to have creepy-looking hybrid babies. The only exception to that is when they put mitochondrial DNA from a horse into a human embryo several decades back. Luckily, scientists learned from their mistake and we will only ever have one Sarah Jessica Parker.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-02-03 14:41:44
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Unless you subscribe to the idea that we'll be uploading brains within a 150 years and humanity is destined to shed its organic trappings to live in technoorgasmic bliss.

FTFY
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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:42:44
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Also, I think I read that the mitochondrial DNA doesn't affect things like appearance and personality, so it's not like we're going to have creepy-looking hybrid babies. The only exception to that is when they put mitochondrial DNA from a horse into a human embryo several decades back. Luckily, scientists learned from their mistake and we will only ever have one Sarah Jessica Parker.


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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:44:25
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She is single guys just fyi (no idea but she could be single)

She is married to something called Matthew Broderick
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-03 14:45:35
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fonewear said: »
She is single guys just fyi (no idea but she could be single)

Dang it, Fone. That was supposed to be a secret. The Brony fanbase must never find out.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-03 14:46:03
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fonewear said: »
Before we get to AI ruining society can we get high speed internet outside of the major cities ?

Upload a brain I can't even download porn at a reasonable rate !

A clear sign that America is not #1 anymore. We don't even have PornHub or XHamster safely on our shores.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-03 14:47:46
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fonewear said: »
She is single guys just fyi (no idea but she could be single)

She is married to something called Matthew Broderick

Bueller!

Or Inspector Gadget. *shudder*
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-03 14:48:31
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
fonewear said: »
She is single guys just fyi (no idea but she could be single) She is married to something called Matthew Broderick
Bueller! Or Inspector Gadget. *shudder*

Or the guy who was regretfully not killed by Godzilla.
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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:49:03
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Is this our future:

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-03 14:49:21
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Unless you subscribe to the idea that we'll be implanted with chips in our hands that start to go off when we turn 30, therefor enabling us to be reincarnated into newer, better beings, instead of those blasphemous runners who believe in life after 30 wanting to leave the society to the wilds out yonder. Plus, we have such far out movie posters.

FTFY
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-03 14:51:06
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
fonewear said: »
She is single guys just fyi (no idea but she could be single) She is married to something called Matthew Broderick
Bueller! Or Inspector Gadget. *shudder*

Or the guy who was regretfully not killed by Godzilla.

Or the main character in Glory.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-02-03 14:51:15
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Atomic weapons will look like a walk through the park compared to the potential of human engineering and A.I

I have no problems with human engineering; I'm not certain why people would. Being able to do away with congenital defects, genetic abnormalities and other such undesirable things?

Look, I'm not saying people with Downs Syndrome, for instance, don't deserve to live. But what if we could detect that and correct it prior to birth? Is that really a bad thing?

Im concerned about artificial life and the potential for that life to far surpass organic life or outright get out of human control.

Such things as the singularity and A.I becoming self-aware are less of a fantasy than we'd think considering the exponential growth of technology. I'm not suggesting Terminator or any of the post-apocalyptic scenarios often thrown around media but we've got a population of surplus humans and tossing superior mechanical life into that opens the field to far more terrifying scenarios than curing people of diseases.

Unless you subscribe to the idea that we'll be uploading brains within a 150 years and humanity is destined to shed its organic trappings to live in technoorganic bliss.


While I do enjoy the bio-mechanical fantasies you're spitting out with regard to eugenics, they don't really apply to the topic at hand.

To bring it back to the topic, we're talking about a science that will have to be perfect given how the most minute of alterations will potentially have dramatic effects.

The phrase breaking eggs to make an omelet comes to mind...like millions of eggs.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-03 14:52:33
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I'm totally fine with being uploaded into a superior mechanical body. I'll finally be able to live out my dream of being a sub-boss for four young teenage protagonists to do battle against.

THE CRYSTALS BETRAY YOU. BEHOLD THE BODY OF A GOD.
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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:53:39
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All GMO fetuses should be clearly labeled so that people don't eat them without knowing.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-03 14:56:41
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All GMO fetuses should be clearly labeled so that people don't eat them without knowing.

Oh good. Let's get started on the GMO food panic while we're at it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-03 14:57:29
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Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
All GMO fetuses should be clearly labeled so that people don't eat them without knowing.

Oh good. Let's get started on the GMO food panic while we're at it.
Name one thing that people don't panic about nowadays.

Also, grats on 7k posts.
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By fonewear 2015-02-03 14:58:46
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I'm worried that the GMO water I'm drinking is making me thirsty.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-03 15:01:37
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fonewear said: »
All GMO fetuses should be clearly labeled so that people don't eat them without knowing.

*resists attempt to Godwin*
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