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By Jetackuu 2015-01-31 20:00:32
Holy ***learn how to use the spoiler button when you spread your delusions.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-01-31 20:08:45
By charlo999 2015-01-31 20:37:09
WHO says no benefits.
NIH says significant IQ drop.
FDA has never approved fluoride in supplements.
CDC says no benefit if swallowed. (need contact with teeth)
Was thinking of babies having it in formula today
0.01-0.5mg recommended for <1 years old and they have been using water with 3.99mg a litre. its crazy.
I guess all those babies should just sthu and take it seen as its no choice.
Great post lordgrim.
Sad that all you get for research like this is an army of mockers.
And a thread locked For it seemed no reason. I saw many days with you not posting sometimes. Locked to be regarded as spamming. Strange. I use to check it often.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-31 20:42:59
I had to lol at "the interenet sources" without any links.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-31 20:53:59
Where does the NIH (National Institutes of Health)and the National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research state that Fluoridated water poses a significant reduction in IQ?
Oh right, it doesn't.
It started as an observation, that soon took the shape of an idea. It ended, five decades later, as a scientific revolution that shot dentistry into the forefront of preventive medicine. This is the story of how dental science discovered-and ultimately proved to the world-that fluoride, a mineral found in rocks and soil, prevents tooth decay. Although dental caries remains a public health worry, it is no longer the unbridled problem it once was, thanks to fluoride.
A Mysterious Disorder
Old photo of doctors In 1909 Dr. McKay (r) persuaded the Colorado State Dental Association to invite Dr. Green Vardiman Black (l), one of the nation's most eminent dental researchers, to attend 1909 convention where McKay's findings were to be presented. The two men began joint research and discovered other areas of the country where brown staining of teeth occurred.
Fluoride research had its beginnings in 1901, when a young dental school graduate named Frederick McKay left the East Coast to open a dental practice in Colorado Springs, Colorado. When he arrived, McKay was astounded to find scores of Colorado Springs natives with grotesque brown stains on their teeth. So severe could these permanent stains be, in fact, sometimes entire teeth were splotched the color of chocolate candy. McKay searched in vain for information on this bizarre disorder. He found no mention of the brown-stained teeth in any of the dental literature of the day. Local residents blamed the problem on any number of strange factors, such as eating too much pork, consuming inferior milk, and drinking calcium-rich water. Thus, McKay took up the gauntlet and initiated research into the disorder himself. His first epidemiological investigations were scuttled by a lack of interest among most area dentists. But McKay persevered and ultimately interested local practitioners in the problem, which was known as Colorado Brown Stain.
A Fruitful Collaboration
McKay's first big break came in 1909, when renowned dental researcher Dr. G.V. Black agreed to come to Colorado Springs and collaborate with him on the mysterious ailment. Black, who had previously scoffed that it was impossible such a disorder could go unreported in the dental literature, was lured West shortly after the Colorado Springs Dental Society conducted a study showing that almost 90 percent of the city's locally born children had signs of the brown stains. When Black arrived in the city, he too was shocked by the prevalence of Colorado Brown Stain in the mouths of native-born residents. He would write later:
"I spent considerable time walking on the streets, noticing the children in their play, attracting their attention and talking with them about their games, etc., for the purpose of studying the general effect of the deformity. I found it prominent in every group of children. One does not have to search for it, for it is continually forcing itself on the attention of the stranger by its persistent prominence. This is much more than a deformity of childhood. If it were only that, it would be of less consequence, but it is a deformity for life."
Black investigated fluorosis for six years, until his death in 1915. During that period, he and McKay made two crucial discoveries. First, they showed that mottled enamel (as Black referred to the condition) resulted from developmental imperfections in children's teeth. This finding meant that city residents whose permanent teeth had calcified without developing the stains did not risk having their teeth turn brown; young children waiting for their secondary set of teeth to erupt, however, were at high risk. Second, they found that teeth afflicted by Colorado Brown Stain were surprisingly and inexplicably resistant to decay. The two researchers were still a long way from determining the cause of Colorado Brown Stain, but McKay had a theory tucked away in the back of his head. Maybe there was, as some local residents suggested, an ingredient in the water supply that mottled the teeth? Black was skeptical; McKay, though, was intrigued by this theory's prospects.
The water-causation theory got a gigantic boost in 1923. That year, McKay trekked across the Rocky Mountains to Oakley, Idaho to meet with parents who had noticed peculiar brown stains on their children's teeth. The parents told McKay that the stains began appearing shortly after Oakley constructed a communal water pipeline to a warm spring five miles away. McKay analyzed the water, but found nothing suspicious in it. Nonetheless, he advised town leaders to abandon the pipeline altogether and use another nearby spring as a water source.
McKay's advice did the trick. Within a few years, the younger children of Oakley were sprouting healthy secondary teeth without any mottling. McKay now had his confirmation, but he still had no idea what could be wrong with the water in Oakley, Colorado Springs, and other afflicted areas. The answer came when McKay and Dr. Grover Kempf of the United States Public Health Service (PHS) traveled to Bauxite, Arkansas-a company town owned by the Aluminum Company of America-to investigate reports of the familiar brown stains. The two discovered something very interesting: namely, the mottled enamel disorder was prevalent among the children of Bauxite, but nonexistent in another town only five miles away. Again, McKay analyzed the Bauxite water supply. Again, the analysis provided no clues. But the researchers' work was not done in vain.
McKay and Kempf published a report on their findings that reached the desk of ALCOA's chief chemist, H. V. Churchill, at company headquarters in Pennsylvania. Churchill, who had spent the past few years refuting claims that aluminum cookware was poisonous, worried that this report might provide fresh fodder for ALCOA's detractors. Thus, he decided to conduct his own test of the water in Bauxite-but this time using photospectrographic analysis, a more sophisticated technology than that used by McKay. Churchill asked an assistant to assay the Bauxite water sample. After several days, the assistant reported a surprising piece of news: the town's water had high levels of fluoride. Churchill was incredulous. "Whoever heard of fluorides in water," he bellowed at his assistant. "You have contaminated the sample. Rush another specimen."
Shortly thereafter, a new specimen arrived in the laboratory. Churchill's assistant conducted another assay on the Bauxite water. The result? Photospectrographic analysis, again, showed that the town's water had high levels of fluoride tainting it. This second and selfsame finding prompted Churchill to sit down at his typewriter in January, 1931, and compose a five-page letter to McKay on this new revelation. In the letter, he advised McKay to collect water samples from other towns "where the peculiar dental trouble has been experienced... We trust that we have awakened your interest in this subject and that we may cooperate in an attempt to discover what part 'fluorine' may play in the matter."
McKay collected the samples. And, within months, he had the answer and denouement to his 30-year quest: high levels of water-borne fluoride indeed caused the discoloration of tooth enamel.
New Questions Emerge
Hence, from the curious findings of Churchill's lab assistant, the mystery of the brown stained teeth was cracked. But one mystery often ripples into many others. And shortly after this discovery, PHS scientists started investigating a slew of new and provocative questions about water-borne fluoride. With these PHS investigations, research on fluoride and its effects on tooth enamel began in earnest. The architect of these first fluoride studies was Dr. H. Trendley Dean, head of the Dental Hygiene Unit at the National Institute of Health (NIH). Dean began investigating the epidemiology of fluorosis in 1931. One of his primary research concerns was determining how high fluoride levels could be in drinking water before fluorosis occurred. To determine this, Dean enlisted the help of Dr. Elias Elvove, a senior chemist at the NIH. Dean gave Elvove the hardscrabble task of developing a more accurate method to measure fluoride levels in drinking water. Elvove labored long and hard in his laboratory, and within two years he reported back to Dean with success. He had developed a state-of-the-art method to measure fluoride levels in water with an accuracy of 0.1 parts per million (ppm). With this new method in tow, Dean and his staff set out across the country to compare fluoride levels in drinking water. By the late 1930s, he and his staff had made a critical discovery. Namely, fluoride levels of up to 1.0 ppm in drinking water did not cause enamel fluorosis in most people and only mild enamel fluorosis in a small percentage of people.
Proof That Fluoride Prevents Caries
This finding sent Dean's thoughts spiraling in a new direction. He recalled from reading McKay's and Black's studies on fluorosis that mottled tooth enamel is unusually resistant to decay. Dean wondered whether adding fluoride to drinking water at physically and cosmetically safe levels would help fight tooth decay. This hypothesis, Dean told his colleagues, would need to be tested.In 1944, Dean got his wish. That year, the City Commission of Grand Rapids, Michigan-after numerous discussions with researchers from the PHS, the Michigan Department of Health, and other public health organizations-voted to add fluoride to its public water supply the following year. In 1945, Grand Rapids became the first city in the world to fluoridate its drinking water.The Grand Rapids water fluoridation study was originally sponsored by the U.S. Surgeon General, but was taken over by the NIDR shortly after the Institute's inception in 1948. During the 15-year project, researchers monitored the rate of tooth decay among Grand Rapids' almost 30,000 schoolchildren. After just 11 years, Dean- who was now director of the NIDR-announced an amazing finding. The caries rate among Grand Rapids children born after fluoride was added to the water supply dropped more than 60 percent. This finding, considering the thousands of participants in the study, amounted to a giant scientific breakthrough that promised to revolutionize dental care, making tooth decay for the first time in history a preventable disease for most people.
A Lasting Achievement
Almost 30 years after the conclusion of the Grand Rapids fluoridation study, fluoride continues to be dental science's main weapon in the battle against tooth decay. Today, just about every toothpaste on the market contains fluoride as its active ingredient; water fluoridation projects currently benefit over 200 million Americans, and 13 million schoolchildren now participate in school-based fluoride mouth rinse programs. As the figures indicate, McKay, Dean, and the others helped to transform dentistry into a prevention-oriented profession. Their drive, in the face of overwhelming adversity, is no less than a remarkable feat of science-an achievement ranking with the other great preventive health measures of our century.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-31 21:08:28
found this here is link. link
10 Facts About Fluoride
1. Most Developed Countries Do Not Fluoridate Their Water
More people drink fluoridated water in the US alone than in the rest of the world combined. In Western Europe, for instance, 97 percent of the population drinks non-fluoridated water.
2. Fluoridated Countries Do Not Have Less Tooth Decay Than Non-Fluoridated Countries
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), there is no discernible difference in tooth decay between developed countries that fluoridate their water and those that do not. The decline in tooth decay the US has experienced over the last 60 years, which is often attributed to fluoridated water, has likewise occurred in all developed countries (most of which do not fluoridate their water).
3. Fluoride Affects Many Tissues in Your Body Besides Your Teeth
Many assume that consuming fluoride is only an issue that involves your dental health. But according to a 500-page scientific review, fluoride is an endocrine disruptor that can affect your bones, brain, thyroid gland, pineal gland and even your blood sugar levels.2
There have been over 34 human studies and 100 animal studies linking fluoride to brain damage,3 including lower IQ in children, and studies have shown that fluoride toxicity can lead to a wide variety of health problems, including:
Increased lead absorption Disrupts synthesis of collagen Hyperactivity and/or lethargy Muscle disorders
Thyroid disease Arthritis Dementia Bone fractures
Lowered thyroid function Bone cancer (osteosarcoma) Inactivates 62 enzymes and inhibits more than 100 Inhibited formation of antibodies
Genetic damage and cell death Increased tumor and cancer rate Disrupted immune system Damaged sperm and increased infertility
4. Fluoridation is Not a “Natural” Process
Fluoride is naturally occurring in some areas, leading to high levels in certain water supplies “naturally.” Fluoridation advocates often use this to support its safety, however naturally occurring substances are not automatically safe (think of arsenic, for instance).
Further, the fluoride added to most water supplies is not the naturally occurring variety but rather fluorosilicic acid, which is captured in air pollution control devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry. As FAN reported:
“This captured fluoride acid is the most contaminated chemical added to public water supplies, and may impose additional risks to those presented by natural fluorides. These risks include a possible cancer hazard from the acid’s elevated arsenic content, and a possible neurotoxic hazard from the acid’s ability--under some conditions--to increase the erosion of lead from old pipes.”
5. 40% of American Teenagers Show Visible Signs of Fluoride Overexposure
About 40 percent of American teens have dental fluorosis,4 a condition that refers to changes in the appearance of tooth enamel that are caused by long-term ingestion of fluoride during the time teeth are forming. In some areas, fluorosis rates are as high as 70-80 percent, with some children suffering from advanced forms.
It’s likely this is a sign that children are receiving large amounts of fluoride from multiple sources, including not only drinking water but also fluoride toothpaste, processed beverages/foods, fluoride pesticides, tea, non-stick pans and some fluorinated drugs. So not only do we need to address the issue of water fluoridation, but how this exposure is magnified by other sources of fluoride that are now common.
It's also important to realize that dental fluorosis is NOT "just cosmetic." It can also be an indication that the rest of your body, such as your bones and internal organs, including your brain, have been overexposed to fluoride as well. In other words, if fluoride is having a visually detrimental effect on the surface of your teeth, you can be virtually guaranteed that it's also damaging other parts of your body, such as your bones.
6. For Infants, Fluoridated Water Provides No Benefits, Only Risks
Infants who consume formula made with fluoridated tap water may consume up to 1,200 micrograms of fluoride, or about 100 times more than the recommended amounts. Such “spikes” of fluoride exposure during infancy provide no known advantage to teeth, but they do have plenty of known harmful effects.
Babies given fluoridated water in their formula are not only more likely to develop dental fluorosis, but may also have reduced IQ scores. In fact, a Harvard University meta-analysis funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) concluded that children who live in areas with highly fluoridated water have "significantly lower" IQ scores than those who live in low fluoride areas.5 A number of prominent dental researchers now advise that parents should not add fluoridated water to baby formula.
7. Fluoride Supplements Have Never Been Approved by the FDA
The fluoride supplements sometimes prescribed to those who are not drinking fluoridated water have not been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the prevention of tooth decay. In fact, the fluoride supplements that the FDA has reviewed have been rejected.
“So with fluoridation, we are adding to the water a prescription-strength dose of a drug that has never been approved by the FDA,” FAN noted.
8. Fluoride is the Only Medicine Added to Public Water
Fluoride is added to drinking water to prevent a disease (tooth decay), and as such becomes a medicine by FDA definition. While proponents claim this is no different than adding vitamin D to milk, fluoride is not an essential nutrient. Many European nations have rejected fluoride for the very reason that delivering medication via the water supply would be inappropriate. Water fluoridation is a form of mass medication that denies you the right to informed consent.
9. Swallowing Fluoride Provides Little Benefit to Teeth
It is now widely recognized that fluoride’s only justifiable benefit comes from topical contact with teeth, which even the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has acknowledged. Adding it to water and pills, which are swallowed, offers little, if any, benefit to your teeth.
10. Disadvantaged Communities are the Most Disadvantaged by Fluoride
Fluoride toxicity is exacerbated by conditions that occur much more frequently in low-income areas. This includes:
Nutrient deficiencies
Infant formula consumption
Kidney disease
Diabetes
African American and Mexican American children have significantly higher rates of dental fluorosis, and many low-income urban communities also have severe oral health crises, despite decades of water fluoridation. FAN continues:
“The simple fact is that poor populations need dental care, not fluoridation chemicals in their water. The millions of dollars spent each year promoting fluoridation would be better spent advocating for policies that provide real dental care: like allowing dental therapists to provide affordable care to populations with little access to dentists. In short, fluoridation provides good PR for dental trade associations, but bad medicine for those it’s supposedly meant to serve.”
Pro-Fluoride Group Rewards Minority and Immigrant Groups With Cash Payments for Support
Portland, Oregon, gets its water from the Bull Run watershed, a 102-square mile protected watershed that is so pristine and pure the city was even granted a waiver from having to build a water treatment plant. In May, Portland residents will vote for or against adding risky fluoridation chemicals to their unusually pristine water supply.
Not only will adding fluoride add to environmental chemical pollution and increase residents’ risks of dental fluorosis and other health concerns, it will also raise monthly water bills since adding these industrial waste chemicals costs millions of dollars.
As the vote on May 21, 2013 nears, the pro-fluoride campaign, Healthy Kids, Healthy Portland, has been increasing its “outreach” to gain the votes of minority groups. Not only did the organization recently gain another $325,000 in new contributions, giving them a large monetary lead over the fluoride opponents, Clean Water Portland, but they also reported some eyebrow-raising expenditures to groups working with minorities and immigrants. Among them:
$20,000 to the Center For Intercultural Organizing
$20,000 to the Native American Youth and Family Center
$20,000 to the Asian Pacific American Network of Oregon
$20,000 to the Latino Network
$20,000 to the Immigrant & Refugee Community Organization
$19,100 to the Urban League
That’s nearly $100,000 “donated” to essentially buy votes from the low-income communities that are among those at risk of being most harmed by water fluoridation. As WW reported:6
“ … Healthy Kids has aggressively sought the support of such organizations. That's not unusual. What is somewhat uncommon is rewarding that support with cash payments, which the campaign characterized in its filings as 'grant[s] for outreach services.' Campaigns typically spend their money on advertising, consultants, polling, rent and other direct expenses, not making grants to other groups. Evyn Mitchell, the campaign manager for Healthy Kids, says the grants to minority and immigrant groups are 'a new and different approach.'”
Call to Action as Portland Readies to Vote on Water Fluoridation
Portland rejected water fluoridation in 1956, 1962, and 1980. But after more than a year of secretive planning, fluoride lobbyists convinced the Portland city council to add this toxic waste for their public's consumption. Luckily, the citizens of Portland stood together by gathering enough signatures to force the decision to a vote on May 21, 2013.
Hopefully, with your help in spreading the message, Portland will once again stop this measure. If you live in Portland and want to sign up as a volunteer or pledge to vote No on water fluoridation on the City of Portland ballot, please do so on the Clean Water Portland Pledge Page.
Remember, these lobbyists are well funded, and we're going to see a campaign similar to Prop 37 in California. The citizens need your help to keep Portland free of this contaminant. So, regardless of where you live, please help by donating to their campaign to ensure Portland's pure water source remains that way.
Donate Today!
Help End The Practice of Fluoridation
There's no doubt about it: fluoride should not be ingested. Even scientists from the EPA's National Health and Environmental Effects Research Laboratory have classified fluoride as a "chemical having substantial evidence of developmental neurotoxicity.” Furthermore, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 41 percent of American adolescents now have dental fluorosis—unattractive discoloration and mottling of the teeth that indicate overexposure to fluoride. Clearly, children are being overexposed, and their health and development put in jeopardy. Why?
The only real solution is to stop the archaic practice of water fluoridation in the first place. Fortunately, the Fluoride Action Network has a game plan to END water fluoridation worldwide. Clean pure water is a prerequisite to optimal health. Industrial chemicals, drugs, and other toxic additives really have no place in our water supplies. So, please, protect your drinking water and support the fluoride-free movement by making a tax-deductible donation to the Fluoride Action Network today.
Internet Resources Where You Can Learn More
I encourage you to visit the website of the Fluoride Action Network "
First off, I'm glad that you finally come to the realization that YouTube videos aren't the answer to showing your opinion. Which is great because maybe you can understand the need to show sources based on your conspiracy theories.
Second, that being said, there's a little problem with your source. Namely, it refuses to name their research, especially when it claims "WHO said this", and "a 500 page scientific review said that" and "FAN found this." It instead references anti-fluoride sources as their primary sources. And yes, I do check your sources.
You know what that's called? Parroting. It is spouting nonsense without understanding what it means. Just like a parrot spouts sounds without understanding that those sounds convey a message between higher intelligent species.
I would strongly suggest that next time, check your source's sources before posting an article from a website that loves to spout sources.
don't believe me ,check your own self out and see if you see some very white spots. If you are seeing white spots, that's usually a sign of brain trauma, and I would highly suggest that you go to your doctor to check that out.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-31 21:09:57
WHO says no benefits.
NIH says significant IQ drop.
FDA has never approved fluoride in supplements.
CDC says no benefit if swallowed. (need contact with teeth)
Was thinking of babies having it in formula today
0.01-0.5mg recommended for <1 years old and they have been using water with 3.99mg a litre. its crazy.
I guess all those babies should just sthu and take it seen as its no choice.
Great post lordgrim.
Sad that all you get for research like this is an army of mockers.
And a thread locked For it seemed no reason. I saw many days with you not posting sometimes. Locked to be regarded as spamming. Strange. I use to check it often. Hey charlo! Can you answer this question for us?
If you use 10 liters equivalents of a million parts of water a day, and the PPM of fluoride in that water is 4, and the PPM proven to have harmful effects to you is 32 PPM, did you receive a harmful dose in one day?
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-01-31 21:29:32
WHO says no benefits.
NIH says significant IQ drop.
FDA has never approved fluoride in supplements.
CDC says no benefit if swallowed. (need contact with teeth)
Was thinking of babies having it in formula today
0.01-0.5mg recommended for <1 years old and they have been using water with 3.99mg a litre. its crazy.
I guess all those babies should just sthu and take it seen as its no choice.
Great post lordgrim.
Sad that all you get for research like this is an army of mockers.
And a thread locked For it seemed no reason. I saw many days with you not posting sometimes. Locked to be regarded as spamming. Strange. I use to check it often.
Appreciate it, It goes with the type of person i am because i am faulted at having a big heart. I can not stand for corruption, or people being taken advantage of. I value humanity and only want it to succeed. I am no different then those who were against extreme odds and were ridiculed like, Jesus, or Kennedy, or Martin Luther King or any other person who used there voice or in my case typed words here, our right and privilege of freedom of speech. It is obvious if anyone can tell, that there are those who do not like free speech. Your right i never posted everyday due to my work schedule. When i researched throughout the week i would save it for the weekend to update the Main Post and always stayed on topic. Yes there was trolls trying to derail the topic and were topic banned. I was even quoted by Anna Ruthvan by having the first half way decent topic since the threads inception. The only reason i made it was because i care about the ffxi community. Everything i put in that topic was backed with facts and i still could put more there occasionally if it was unlocked. Even when it was demained mostly due to who i believe were topic banned or had friends who were part of a gang, it receives a lot of views then posts. The important thing is people noticed and gave it a chance to open there minds that governments can change to be in the peoples best interest. Most of us Americans who use this website have only known two parties who ruled our nation, but forgot that our country was not founded by political parties but by individuals with there own ideas and ideals who were individually unique. We all know who the army of mockers are. I thank you very much for the kind words Charlo999 and all those who supported me by viewing and who still view it. All in the name for a Political Awakening For Truth and Justice
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-31 22:40:43
people being taken advantage of. Do you not realize that you are being taken advantage of by the YouTube "sources" you are spreading? You aren't "awakened" or "enlightened" but are being taken advantage of by your lack of understanding and knowledge of the very topics you seem to care about.
I am no different then those who were against extreme odds and were ridiculed like, Jesus, or Kennedy, or Martin Luther King or any other person who used there voice or in my case typed words here, our right and privilege of freedom of speech. Yes, you are different than Kennedy and Martin Luther King, as they had real problems to deal with and not made up problems you created.
You have the illusion of the Federal Reserve's "treason," which is not only ludicrous, but also can be considered "treasonous" in your own terms (since you believe that the Federal Reserve is by definition treasonous, your idea of absolution of the Federal Reserve can also be considered treasonous as you would have done the exact damage you claim the Federal Reserve does if you got your way).
I was even quoted by Anna Ruthvan by having the first half way decent topic since the threads inception. I'm pretty sure Kojo was being sarcastic.
Everything i put in that topic was backed with facts and i still could put more there occasionally if it was unlocked. Opinionated YouTube videos are not facts. Why can't you get it through your think skull?
There are YouTube videos of the Lock Ness Monster, do you consider those to be evidence that it exists?
Even when it was demained mostly due to who i believe were topic banned or had friends who were part of a gang I call ringleader!
The important thing is people noticed and gave it a chance to open there minds that governments can change to be in the peoples best interest. No, we were just laughing at you, especially your Hydra comment.
All in the name for a Political Awakening For Truth and Justice When you discover Truth and Justice, let us know, k?
By Jetackuu 2015-01-31 22:52:01
WHO says no benefits.
NIH says significant IQ drop.
FDA has never approved fluoride in supplements.
CDC says no benefit if swallowed. (need contact with teeth)
Was thinking of babies having it in formula today
0.01-0.5mg recommended for <1 years old and they have been using water with 3.99mg a litre. its crazy.
I guess all those babies should just sthu and take it seen as its no choice.
Great post lordgrim.
Sad that all you get for research like this is an army of mockers.
And a thread locked For it seemed no reason. I saw many days with you not posting sometimes. Locked to be regarded as spamming. Strange. I use to check it often.
If you had half a brain you would know that you use boiled or distilled water to mix with formula, and it's still better to breastfeed than formula.
But since you believe in conspiracies, I don't expect you to understand such a thing.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-31 22:55:40
I like how this supposed "gang of friends" on any other topic (except the deliciousness that is bacon) usually cannot stand one another.
But yeah...
By charlo999 2015-02-01 02:59:17
WHO says no benefits.
NIH says significant IQ drop.
FDA has never approved fluoride in supplements.
CDC says no benefit if swallowed. (need contact with teeth)
Was thinking of babies having it in formula today
0.01-0.5mg recommended for <1 years old and they have been using water with 3.99mg a litre. its crazy.
I guess all those babies should just sthu and take it seen as its no choice.
Great post lordgrim.
Sad that all you get for research like this is an army of mockers.
And a thread locked For it seemed no reason. I saw many days with you not posting sometimes. Locked to be regarded as spamming. Strange. I use to check it often.
Appreciate it, It goes with the type of person i am because i am faulted at having a big heart. I can not stand for corruption, or people being taken advantage of. I value humanity and only want it to succeed. I am no different then those who were against extreme odds and were ridiculed like, Jesus, or Kennedy, or Martin Luther King or any other person who used there voice or in my case typed words here, our right and privilege of freedom of speech. It is obvious if anyone can tell, that there are those who do not like free speech. Your right i never posted everyday due to my work schedule. When i researched throughout the week i would save it for the weekend to update the Main Post and always stayed on topic. Yes there was trolls trying to derail the topic and were topic banned. I was even quoted by Anna Ruthvan by having the first half way decent topic since the threads inception. The only reason i made it was because i care about the ffxi community. Everything i put in that topic was backed with facts and i still could put more there occasionally if it was unlocked. Even when it was demained mostly due to who i believe were topic banned or had friends who were part of a gang, it receives a lot of views then posts. The important thing is people noticed and gave it a chance to open there minds that governments can change to be in the peoples best interest. Most of us Americans who use this website have only known two parties who ruled our nation, but forgot that our country was not founded by political parties but by individuals with there own ideas and ideals who were individually unique. We all know who the army of mockers are. I thank you very much for the kind words Charlo999 and all those who supported me by viewing and who still view it. All in the name for a Political Awakening For Truth and Justice
Np.
Remember if they felt your posts were that unbelievable they would just ignore you at this point.
The benefit in mock spamming and so called 'satire' through text and pictures is to extend the page count as fast as possible.
It's a trick to force some lazy readers to have turn back pages to find your post.
Of course if there's anything of relevance to discuss do. It at this point otherwise ignore them.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-01 08:01:45
Hey charlo! Can you answer this question for us?
If you use 10 liters equivalents of a million parts of water a day, and the PPM of fluoride in that water is 4, and the PPM proven to have harmful effects to you is 32 PPM, did you receive a harmful dose in one day? Remember if they felt your posts were that unbelievable they would just ignore you at this point.
No, we just don't want you to trick people into your so-called "knowledge for Truth and Justice" like how you two got sucked into the nonsense. It's too late to save you two, but it's not too late to save others from your BS.
Quote: The benefit in mock spamming and so called 'satire' through text and pictures is to extend the page count as fast as possible.
Wow, now you are just making conspiracies about this forum.....
Can't you even see that?
Quote: It's a trick to force some lazy readers to have turn back pages to find your post.
It's a trick I tell ya, it's all a trick to the nonbelievers by the devil "condescending" to sway you away from the "Political Awaking of Truth and Justice."
Quote: Of course if there's anything of relevance to discuss do. Fine, but....
Quote: It at this point otherwise ignore them. That really shows how open minded you are in discussing issues. Either we agree with you two, or we don't exist in your mind. What a way to have a debate?
Or are you afraid that you will lose an argument when presented by ideas outside your own?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-02-01 08:16:30
It's a trick to force some lazy readers to have turn back pages to find your post. This reasoning is just unbelievable...did you forget to wear your brain?
This'll make you think twice about the water coming out of the faucet:
"A 4-year-old child who died of a rare brain infection in early August has led Louisiana health officials to discover that the cause is lurking in the water pipes of St. Bernard Parish, southeast of New Orleans.
It's a type of single-celled amoeba called Naegleria fowleri, about a tenth the width of a human hair. Some call it a "brain-eating" amoeba, although it does its damage by causing a devastating immune reaction rather than by actually devouring brain tissue.
Officials are pumping more chlorine into the municipal water supply to kill the bugs and advising the parish's 40,000 residents how to avoid infection. They say the risk is tiny.
As we'll discuss shortly, it's not easy to get infected, and drinking the water poses no risk. But still, finding such a dangerous microbe in the drinking water is troubling and noteworthy.
"This is the first time that it has been found in the drinking water in the United States," Louisiana state epidemiologist Raoult Ratard tells Shots.
But it won't be the last, he says — because health officials are now trying to pin down the cause of previously unexplained encephalitis cases. About 40 percent of cases of this dangerous brain inflammation have no known cause. "Five years ago, we would never have known that this recent case was caused by the amoeba," Ratard says.
Another new element: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now tests water supplies when a case of amoebic encephalitis is discovered, to see where the bug came from.
For instance, in 2011 two Louisiana residents — one a 20-year-old man from St. Bernard Parish — died of amoebic encephalitis after using tap water to rinse their nasal passages, using a popular device called a neti pot. Health officials assumed that contaminated tap water was the source of the infection, but it was never proved.
This summer the amoeba infected the brains of two other US children – a 12-year-old Florida boy, who died, and a 12-year-old Arkansas girl, who survived. She may be one of only three known to survive the infection in the United States.
These alarming deaths are likely to remain rare – but not quite as rare as health officials used to think.
"We're going to see more cases," Ratard says. Instead of three to five cases of amoebic encephalitis per year across the nation, "maybe we'll go to 10 a year," he says. "I don't expect we'll have a hundred."
The episode vividly illustrates how humans live in a sea of potentially lethal microbes that, amazingly, seldom kill.
In this case, it's because Naegleria fowleri is only dangerous when it gains entry into the brain. It does that when water containing the amoeba gets inhaled very deeply, into the area where the roof of the nasal passages meets the floor of the brain.
"To get infected, the amoeba has to get to the ceiling of your nose – way, way up there," Ratard says. "At the top of the nose you have a little paper-thin plate made of bone with a bunch of holes, a little bit like a mosquito net. The holes are for the olfactory nerve. So the amoeba is crawling up the nerve and gets into the brain."
Drinking amoeba-contaminated water poses no risk, presumably because the single-celled organisms can't survive in stomach acid. Normal bathing or showering isn't a risk because even if tap water is contaminated, it doesn't penetrate into the deepest nasal passages.
Brain infections from the amoeba usually pop up in late summer, when warm water favors its reproduction and many people are diving into ponds to escape the heat.
Since uncounted numbers of people swim in waters that undoubtedly contain amoebae, Ratard says, it's a wonder there aren't more infections. Public swimming pools pose no risk because chlorine kills the microbes.
The child who died last month in St. Bernard Parish while visiting from Mississippi, had been playing a long time on a Slip'n'Slide connected to a household water faucet.
It took about two weeks for the CDC to determine that the child had a Naegleria fowleri infection. Then state officials started investigating how.
"We collected the hose and got some samples from the outside faucet, water heater, and toilet tank water," Ratard says. After testing verified amoeba contamination, Louisiana officials put out a press release about the case.
Further testing of tap water in four nearby areas revealed the presence of Naegleria fowleri, as officials announced on Thursday.
Understandably, the announcement has sparked considerable local anxiety, even though health officials have stressed that the risk is low – and can be avoided entirely by common-sense precautions.
"In the old days, you would look at your faucet and it wouldn't scare you," Ratard says. "But these days, for some people, it looks menacing."
To avoid risk, officials are advising people not to put their heads under water while bathing in tap water — and to supervise young children who might. Flushing the water from household pipes before filling a child's wading pool decreases the risk, although some people might want to add some bleach to the water as an added precaution.
Local officials have shut off the water at school drinking fountains, although it's hard to imagine how schoolchildren could inject that water deep into their noses.
In a couple of weeks, officials will retest the St. Bernard Parish drinking water to ensure that added chlorine has eliminated the threat – for this season at least."
Deadly Amoeba Found for First Time in Municipal Water Supply
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