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 Odin.Madone
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By Odin.Madone 2014-10-15 18:42:04
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Are the Elemental obi's worth it in 2014. Just recently discovered how to get these but before I spend what little time I get to play just want to make sure it's worth it or should I focus on something else? I play all jobs FYI. Thanks in advanced.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2014-10-15 19:38:06
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if weather/day is active and the % damage adds more than whatever item you have on at that point, then yes.
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By Pantafernando 2014-10-15 19:57:16
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Waist slot normally is one of the weakest in a nuker set. Most likely an apropriate obi will beat any and every corrent waist, unless your gear is pretty crap.

But i dont think its worth having all elemental obi, and also have bad time in white and dark day, but indeed, i have an ice obi and couple with my twilight cape, i can deal a bit more dmg in iceday.

Ah, almost forgot, its great by using /sch and casting apropriate weather.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-10-15 20:05:45
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Pantafernando said: »
But i dont think its worth having all elemental obi
Lies!
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By Chimerawizard 2014-10-15 20:16:27
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If you use mythic WS decently often on cor, sch or blm, make anrin obi. (or cataclysm)
If you play whm a lot, make korin obi.
If you don't mind another -6 inventory, make the other 6.

Any of these, you'll need to add rules for if day/weather condition is met, blah blah blah.

I play sch a lot ... so I have all 8. It's very nice and I only wish SE'd be kind to my inventory by making it 1 obi to rule them all...
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-10-15 21:03:02
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You do a 10k nuke with Stone5.

Obi ads 1000 damage.

Yes it's worth it.

Nothing else is even close waist wise.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial 2014-10-15 21:57:46
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Elemental obis are still the best in slot when they apply, for anything that does damage. Sadly, as far as I've been told by everyone I've asked, Gearswap doesn't know how to handle them properly or something. Which is why I still use spellcast. >_>
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By Crevox 2014-10-15 22:07:34
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Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial said: »
Elemental obis are still the best in slot when they apply, for anything that does damage. Sadly, as far as I've been told by everyone I've asked, Gearswap doesn't know how to handle them properly or something. Which is why I still use spellcast. >_>

I use day/weather gear just fine in Gearswap, I don't see how elemental obis would be any different. You should switch!
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-10-15 22:18:10
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Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial said: »
Elemental obis are still the best in slot when they apply, for anything that does damage. Sadly, as far as I've been told by everyone I've asked, Gearswap doesn't know how to handle them properly or something. Which is why I still use spellcast. >_>

yes it does, they just don't know how to handle the rules.
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By Odin.Nubbinater 2014-10-15 23:52:21
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yes it does, they just don't know how to handle the rules.

Can you please share this info. I have the same problem and would love to utilize my obis. I have makeshift rules to work with the SCH storms being active but for some reason only the ice obi works on actual day and/or weather but no other elements.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-10-16 00:07:51
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Odin.Nubbinater said: »
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yes it does, they just don't know how to handle the rules.

Can you please share this info. I have the same problem and would love to utilize my obis. I have makeshift rules to work with the SCH storms being active but for some reason only the ice obi works on actual day and/or weather but no other elements.

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Code 
	elseif spell.skill=='Elemental Magic' then	
		if T{"Blizzard"}:contains(spell.name) 		then
			if  world.day =='Iceday' or  world.weather_element == 'Ice'  or Buffactive == 'Snowstorm' then
				equip(sets.midcast_IceObi)
				else
				equip(sets.midcast_Elemental)
				end
elseif T{"Fire"}:contains(spell.name) 		then
			if  world.day =='Firesday' or  world.weather_element == 'Fire'  or Buffactive == 'Firestorm 'then
				equip(sets.midcast_FireObi)
				else
				equip(sets.midcast_Elemental)
				end
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-10-16 00:12:03
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Odin.Nubbinater said: »
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yes it does, they just don't know how to handle the rules.

Can you please share this info. I have the same problem and would love to utilize my obis. I have makeshift rules to work with the SCH storms being active but for some reason only the ice obi works on actual day and/or weather but no other elements.

Before I switched to Motes files, here is a portion of a sch file Byrth and I wrote.
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sets.midcast_ElementalMagic = {main="Atinian Staff",sub="Wizzan Grip",ammo="Witchstone",
		head="Nares Cap",neck="Eddy Necklace",ear1="Hecate's Earring",ear2="Novio Earring",
		body="Hagondes Coat",hands="Yaoyotl Gloves",ring1="Strendu Ring",ring2="Icesoul Ring",
		back="Searing Cape",waist="Maniacus Sash",legs="Hagondes Pants",feet="Bokwus Boots"}

sets.Obi = {}
	sets.Obi.Fire = {waist='Karin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Earth = {waist='Dorin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Water = {waist='Suirin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Wind = {waist='Furin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Ice = {waist='Hyorin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Thunder = {waist='Rairin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Light = {waist='Korin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Dark = {waist='Anrin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}



elseif spell.skill=='ElementalMagic' and spell.cast_time < 3 then
		equip(sets.midcast_ElementalMagic)
		if spell.element == 'Earth' then
			equip({neck="Quanpur Necklace"})
		end
		if spell.element == world.weather_element or spell_element == world.day_element and sets.Obi[spell.element] then
			equip(sets.Obi[spell.element])
		end


In this example, once you hit your midcast phase, if you are casting Elemental Magic, it would equip the sets.midcast_ElementalMagic set, after that, if it the spell casted was Earth based, it would equip Quanpur Necklace. Finally, if the spell matched either the current day or weather, it would equip the sets.Obi[spell.element] set, which included the Obi, Twilight Cape, and Zodiac Ring (never acquired it, however)
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By Crevox 2014-10-16 00:24:18
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I don't have the obis, but this is how I do it in motes files. You can do it with obis too, obviously:

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sets.midcast['Elemental Magic'] = {back=gear.ElementalCape,ring2=gear.ElementalRing}

function job_midcast(spell, action, spellMap, eventArgs)
	elseif spell.type=='BlackMagic' then
		if (spell.element == world.day_element) then
			gear.ElementalRing.name = "Zodiac Ring"		
			gear.ElementalCape.name = "Twilight Cape"
		else
			gear.ElementalRing.name = "Sangoma Ring"
			gear.ElementalCape.name = "Toro Cape"
		end
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By Sylph.Feary 2014-10-16 01:31:49
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crevox youre missing weather and storms
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-10-16 02:25:17
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Odin.Nubbinater said: »
Quote:
yes it does, they just don't know how to handle the rules.

Can you please share this info. I have the same problem and would love to utilize my obis. I have makeshift rules to work with the SCH storms being active but for some reason only the ice obi works on actual day and/or weather but no other elements.

Before I switched to Motes files, here is a portion of a sch file Byrth and I wrote.
Code 
sets.midcast_ElementalMagic = {main="Atinian Staff",sub="Wizzan Grip",ammo="Witchstone",
		head="Nares Cap",neck="Eddy Necklace",ear1="Hecate's Earring",ear2="Novio Earring",
		body="Hagondes Coat",hands="Yaoyotl Gloves",ring1="Strendu Ring",ring2="Icesoul Ring",
		back="Searing Cape",waist="Maniacus Sash",legs="Hagondes Pants",feet="Bokwus Boots"}

sets.Obi = {}
	sets.Obi.Fire = {waist='Karin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Earth = {waist='Dorin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Water = {waist='Suirin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Wind = {waist='Furin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Ice = {waist='Hyorin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Thunder = {waist='Rairin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Light = {waist='Korin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}
	sets.Obi.Dark = {waist='Anrin Obi',back='Twilight Cape',lring='Zodiac Ring'}



elseif spell.skill=='ElementalMagic' and spell.cast_time < 3 then
		equip(sets.midcast_ElementalMagic)
		if spell.element == 'Earth' then
			equip({neck="Quanpur Necklace"})
		end
		if spell.element == world.weather_element or spell_element == world.day_element and sets.Obi[spell.element] then
			equip(sets.Obi[spell.element])
		end


In this example, once you hit your midcast phase, if you are casting Elemental Magic, it would equip the sets.midcast_ElementalMagic set, after that, if it the spell casted was Earth based, it would equip Quanpur Necklace. Finally, if the spell matched either the current day or weather, it would equip the sets.Obi[spell.element] set, which included the Obi, Twilight Cape, and Zodiac Ring (never acquired it, however)

This is also included in the examples folder in everyones gearswap folders.
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By Odin.Nubbinater 2014-10-16 02:39:18
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I must be doing something wrong, thank you for all the examples but none worked for me. I am using bokura's SCH gearswap and like i stated before the rule I'm using works for Ice but not anything else. If anyone is bored and wants to look at what I have I posted it on pastebin. http://pastebin.com/e6pu5r3p 586 is the line in question. Iv tried many things now for months maybe I'm overlooking it. I will just rewrite the rule I guess if all these are working and mine is not.
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By Crevox 2014-10-16 03:31:59
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Sylph.Feary said: »
crevox youre missing weather and storms

I don't have an obi, so I'm not equipping twilight for weathers with only a chance of triggering its effect.

Ring doesn't work on weather, so shrug.
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By Odin.Madone 2014-10-18 08:11:59
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thanks for all the responses, got all the obi's in about 6hrs farming.
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