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Sigurd's Descendants: The Art of Dragon Slaying.
Bahamut.Eternallight
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Would you be a dear and include the Shining One and Impulse for me? lol
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Problem with drakes is attack penalty. Maybe you were at pdif before you used the WS but then aren't during WS d/t penalty. Kinda the same issue with reso, it's all great on fat bats in outer raz with buffs but on harder content it's gonna fall off. And yeah my empy WS were not hitting crazy hard either although I was missing a potential 30 WSD in gear.
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For impulse sets. I would mostly use the same set as camlanns torment or sonic thrust and just swap out the necks to make sure you have a jse neck and one of the many belts with str on them. Like the metal singer belt.
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ItemSet 358660 similar tothis but swap out the necks and belts.
Fenrir.Skarwind said: » I was surprised at Drakes not sucking so bad anymore. Especially nice since its used for double lights. I know! Made me happy. I was two shotting the apex bats with cam > drakes Bahamut.Eternallight
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:D thank you!
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we all were at some point, Just gotta work on the gears and eventually you will be the one doing the 99k impulse drives.
Bahamut.Eternallight
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I am just glad Drg is fairly easy to gear as well as not exceedingly gil heavy.
It's the advantage of not being a bandwagon job.
Watch prices for Monk related ***sky rocket. Bahamut.Eternallight
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Wasnt a bandwagon job. Now it might be.
[F] Also, the method I'm using to test offhit WSD is to DW a weak dagger in main hand and a rather strong dagger in the offhand and using Wasp Sting. Somewhere where both hits are needed to kill, but attack is capped.
The wyvern bonus is annoying to test because of ingrained DA skewing results. Wasp Sting has A 100% DEX mod. 1 hand capped pDif on DRG is 3.55 if anyone else wants to do some testing. I wont be home for a few hours yet. Asura.Veikur said: » Also, the method I'm using to test offhit WSD is to DW a weak dagger in main hand and a rather strong dagger in the offhand and using Wasp Sting. Somewhere where both hits are needed to kill, but attack is capped. The wyvern bonus is annoying to test because of ingrained DA skewing results. Wasp Sting has A 100% DEX mod. 1 hand capped pDif on DRG is 3.55 if anyone else wants to do some testing. I wont be home for a few hours yet. Kinda sucks DRG cant equip Karambits. Would make testing so much easier.(since da is throwing things off) Offline
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Just did 3 Omen runs. Had 3 DRG in the same PT, one used TSO and other two used R1 Trish. PT buffs were sam/drk, marchx2 minx2. Had idris frailty on NMs.
TSO won pretty handily in almost all situations. Much higher wsavg although the sample sizes were less than 10. Impulse gear was def not BiS although SD gear on the other two was more or less. Side note: Missing really hurts TSO. Would be interesting to see how an R15 would compare although like I said the fights were short and sample size was quite small. Bahamut.Shozokui said: » Crossbones said: » Just did 3 Omen runs. Had 3 DRG in the same PT, one used TSO and other two used R1 Trish. PT buffs were sam/drk, marchx2 minx2. Had idris frailty on NMs. TSO won pretty handily in almost all situations. Much higher wsavg although the sample sizes were less than 10. Impulse gear was def not BiS although SD gear on the other two was more or less. Side note: Missing really hurts TSO. Would be interesting to see how an R15 would compare although like I said the fights were short and sample size was quite small. So all the Omen bosses have ludicrously low HP. That type of fight heavily favors fewer/larger weaponskills vs frequency. Especially if you have 3+ DD on the boss... Your sample size is too small to make any worthwhile conclusion. Were some of the Fu? Offline
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We did Gin, Kyou, and Kin. All three mid bosses were weak to pierce too lol. Yeah like I said before the sample size is really small but it still gives us info on what to use in a short fight. I have no doubt that in longer fights or anything that utilizes multi step it's gonna be a whole different story.
Gonna do more for sample size sake, but the damage range I'm getting is impossible to get if
Ragnarok.Martel
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So. I suspect there's not been much interest in Spirit Bond compared to the WSD stuff. But I was curious.
Went out and tested a bunch. This was all made far more confusing by the fact that battlemod currently suppresses the log notifications about the DRG taking dmg via Spirit Bond. So I had no idea there even was a log message for... most of my testing time. Needs an update. Anyway. Spirit Bond takes the wyvern's post pet DT dmg taken, and splits it 50/50 with the DRG. This happens before Steady wing is applied though, so you can take dmg while your wyvern is getting hit for 0. Further, the player's DT does not affect this dmg taken at all. It can be mitigated with stoneskin, so cureskin can help. Phalanx might work as well, but I haven't tried it. Overall, I'm a bit concerned about the actual usefulness of this. It seems like a pretty good way to die to an aoe that you would have survived normally. Now, funneling some of the dmg to the DRG, who can be cured by mages, where the wyvern can't makes a sort of sense. But taking basically double dmg from AoE's seems really dangerous. If player DT worked on the DRG dmg taken then it's be a lot more appealing My favorite example here... In this example, my wyvern had 76 PDT. 40 base, 25 from collar+2 and 11 from ptero legs+3. 10,000*.24=2400 /2=1200. Now as you can see, then numbers there are slightly off. I took 1210 not 1200. It seems like the wyvern base 40% is actually a tiny bit less that 40%, or some kinda weird rounding is going on. This can also be seen without Spirit Bond up, just from the wyvern taking 2k needles. I have some data from before I realized there was a log message for the drg's spirit bond dmg, so I'll go ahead and post that in case anyone wants to try to figure out the wyvern's exact /256 DT. And I'm not even going to try to make this pretty Code *Note that the dragoon field here is the actual direct dmg from the needles move, not the spirit bond dmg. Since I didn't realize that had it's own log message at first. Needles targets Dragoon Wyvern Bond? Martel PDT WPDT 2000 2 1000 601 No 0 40 4000 2 2000 1203 No 0 40 2000 2 1000 301 yes 0 40 4000 2 2000 602 yes 0 40 2000 2 511 172 yes 50 65 4000 2 1023 344 yes 50 65 2000 2 500 172 yes 60 65 4000 2 1000 344 yes 60 65 That's more or less what I was expecting from it. Gross.
Bronze Dagger - 3(11) DMG
Levante - 95(113) DMG DEX - 290 pDif - 3.55 Wasp Sting fTP - 1.0 fTP WSC - 100% DEX Target Desert Spider, Western Altepa Desert If anyone wants to do 1074801701971 samples, go for it. This is pretty conclusive as far as I'm concerned. Ragnarok.Martel
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Did you ever confirm what you were saying about it stacking additively with gear WSD?
And thank you for the testing btw. Ragnarok.Martel said: » Did you ever confirm what you were saying about it stacking additively with gear WSD? And thank you for the testing btw. Radiant Lance - 90(108) DMG
STR - 298 pDif - 4.05 WSD - 47 Leg Sweep fTP - 1.0 WSC - 100% STR Target Desert Spider, Western Altepa Desert So, never mind about that additive deal. Lakshmi.Buukki
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spirit bond looks clunky. I’m more happy about the fact healing breath finally cures the wyvern.
Uh so is that showing that wsd is affecting all hits? Do offhand hits act special when it comes to wsd compared to normal subsequent hits in multipart ws? 30% boost to stardiver seems to good to be true.
Also Spirit Bond is looking dangerous. They need to uh make traits or gear that augment it by reducing that 50% to something lower. It's kind of an awkward skill. I would have settled for Spirit Bond to call a weakened wyvern out at half max hp while penalizing the DRG with like hp-15% for 1 minute, then after that timer the wyvern's weakness wears off. Basically deus ex automata for DRG. Ragnarok.Martel
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Asura.Veikur said: » Radiant Lance - 90(108) DMG STR - 298 pDif - 4.05 WSD - 47 Leg Sweep fTP - 1.0 WSC - 100% STR Target Desert Spider, Western Altepa Desert So, never mind about that additive deal. Excellent testing again. Thank you. Ragnarok.Martel said: » Hmm. now the question is... does it add in with REMA WSD or is it in its own term? Cause if it is in its term that multiplies with RMEA and augment terms.. that'll be really potent. Excellent testing again. Thank you. Multi Range 19555-20532 Addit Range 18233-19144 Sample: 20147 20450 20492 |
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