St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven Or Hell, Duel 1! Let's Rock!

The parents could threaten to sue AP for making a spectacle out of their son's death

Classic deflection... The nature of media or a person's relationship to it has nothing to do with a sick individual HOPING dishonor on a dead teenager. I dislike the media and their tactics as much as I despise the people who willingly become the center of media sensationalism without shame.

I really hope they do a toxicology on the guy

Then why are you arguing with me? I'm not the one who was hoping for anything more than the media reporting the facts without adding their brand of marketing to the reports.

That will never happen in this country.

Besides, if you read what volkom said:

You are a truly twisted person.

Hoping that the kid turns out to be the stereotypical, drug-addled, indignant, black cop assaulter does actually make you kinda racist.

Well he fits 2 of the 3. If there's drugs in his system then he'll be the stereotypical example.

Anywho if you think of me being a twisted person for hoping the guy has drugs in his system leading to me wanting his family to suffer further pain from the loss of their child then fine by me. Honestly I could care less about the majority of people walking the earth.

However if for example the officer felt that his life was endangered that he needed to use his weapon to protect himself a guy that big pumped up on adrenaline and the guy did have drugs in his system. Depending what drugs he may be on, would lead to the guy basically having zombie like invincibility.

IF that's the truth, then that's the truth, it's hoping they find drugs in his system that makes you sick. Normal people don't wish shame and harm on others.

Depending what drugs he may be on, would lead to the guy basically having zombie like invincibility.

Just as bad as hoping that a toxicology test is taken on the body to find said drugs too, isn't it?

If you could care less about most people, then why do you care if this guy was on drugs or not? What point do you want to see justified by hoping that this kid feeds into the stereotype?
You've been watching too much tv lol.

FALLOUJA, Iraq — Although the ferocity of insurgents is generally attributed to religious fervor and a hatred of America, Marines who participated in the November assault on Fallouja say many of their foes also had something else to bolster their tenacity: drugs.

The Marines say they found numerous stockpiles of needles and drugs such as adrenaline and amphetamines while battling insurgents in the fiercest urban combat waged by U.S. forces since the Vietnam War.


In some homes used by insurgents, crack pipes were found, the Marines say.

Senior U.S. military officials in Iraq said that some of the drug caches discovered during the Fallouja offensive had an estimated street value of several thousand dollars.

Top military officials consider the discoveries to be evidence not just of drug use among insurgents, but also of smuggling operations that they say the Sunni Muslim rebels in Fallouja may have been using to finance the insurgency.

"They are just as likely to be indications of drug smuggling as insurgents being doped up to provide stamina or have the courage to fight and die," a senior military official in Baghdad said.

Officers in Iraq say soldiers and Marines found similar evidence of drug use among Shiite Muslim militiamen during April and August uprisings in Najaf.

The conduct of many of the insurgents during the fighting in Fallouja suggested that they had ingested drugs that enabled them to continue fighting even after being severely wounded, Marines and Navy medical corpsmen say.

"One guy described it as like watching the 'Night of the Living Dead,' " corpsman Peter Melady said. "People who should have been dead were still alive."

Marines say the information prompted them to change their strategy.

"On the second day of the fight, word came down to focus on head shots, that body shots were not good enough," said 1st Lt. Tim Strabbing, a platoon leader with the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, one of the lead units in the assault to oust the insurgents. The battalion, known as the Thundering Third, suffered 23 dead and 300 wounded.

Strabbing said his platoon found five locations with stockpiles of needles and adrenaline. "My guys put five [machine gun] rounds into a guy who just stood there and took it and then took off running," he said.

Stimulants enable the body to continue functioning despite mortal wounds, forestalling, although not preventing, death, medical experts say.

Many combat veterans recall watching insurgents in Fallouja who had been shot at close range return fire and hurl grenades at Marines who stormed their strongholds.


"We actually shot four or five guys multiple times and they got up and moved across the room," said corpsman Quinton Brown, who had accompanied a front-line platoon to treat wounded Marines.

"It reminded me of the stories you hear about people on PCP who just keep going," 1st Lt. Cosmo Calvin said. "I think it's safe to say that nearly 100% were doped up on this stuff."

Second Lt. Adam Mathes said the fighting tempo of the insurgents seemed to suggest drug use: hyper-energy in the morning and early afternoon, possibly after a fix, and then less energy as the day wore on.

"When you see a house land on somebody and they're still kicking, you know something is wrong," he said
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tl;dr can get zombie like invincibility with drugs

If you could care less about most people, then why do you care if this guy was on drugs or not? What point do you want to see justified by hoping that this kid feeds into the stereotype?

Nobody is denying that those types of situations occur.

I don't care about the kid or the cop or the kid's family, but since I have a sister in Missouri now, I do fear for her safety, however distant she is from St. Louis.

Now, if the report does show that the kid was on drugs and the media reports that, then maybe the looting/rioting will go away. Those are big ifs, and highly likely that even if the kid was shown to be intoxicated and aggressive towards the officer that the officer was justified in taking the kid's life, the looting/rioting will (more likely) not stop because of the people doing the looting/rioting.

Now, before you go to your stupid excuse like stereotyping, remember this: white people have been shot by black cops before, and where's the rioting/looting/notice then?

Anyone want to see videos of dead Ukrainian babies or dozens of Iraqi children being decapitated? Oh wait they are not violent obese junkies, never mind.

I have read the thread and watched a relatively small amount of news coverage of the event, I don't remember ANYONE justifying looting or rioting.

I don't think I accused anyone of doing so.

Now, before you go to your stupid excuse like stereotyping, remember this: white people have been shot by black cops before, and where's the rioting/looting/notice then?

Yes, you did.

I think we would all rather see this happening to you.

A small backpeddle for word choice, but my point remains through and through!

You're implying that rational people would loot and riot if the death was shown to be an abuse of power, but would not if it was deemed necessary. What other conclusion than they are justifying their actions could you reach?

Backpedaling in the face of new evidence, how dare you call yourself a conservative? Stay the course!

Backpedaling in the face of new evidence, how dare you call yourself a conservative? Stay the course!